CRAZY IDEA FOR COCA COLA

[dominicangreen]

this thread is funny LMAO!

 

[Craven_au]

Now what about Vegemite

 

[!!!]

Don't use soda or vinegar. Buy pH down/up. I don't think most modern soda contains any molasses. The glass coke bottles contain cane sugar

 

[Tilt]

http://www.examiner.com/gardening-i...-a-gardening-tool-with-bonus-skunk-shower-tip
http://www.ehow.com/about_5335653_plants-fertilized.html

a quick google search check it out. Coke as a fertilizer who knew. Cheap beer too.

 

[kerlito]

Vegemite is make with blood ?

that could be good for nitro not? time of vegetation ,

 

[High Country]

Vegemite is make with blood ?

that could be good for nitro not? time of vegetation ,

No, vegemite is made with love, a piece of burned toast, melted butter, vegemite, yummy.

 

[TheBioMaster]

This has to be the most useless thread I think I have seen on a legit growing forum......if you look hard enough you can find minerals and nutrition in ALL food/beverage products consumed by HUMAN BEINGS! Does this mean you should use them for plant nutrition......hmmmm....

If you can not afford the basics like PH up and PH down, base nutrients, then you should not be growing. Kinda like people who get pets and can not afford to take care of them properly.....

 

[rick shaw]

Marmite is blood ,spent six months looking for it for my Kiwi wife.Marmite tastes pretty much like fertilizer, it probably repels deer and spider mites.You can retain your organic certification and clear out you kitchen cupboard.I say go for it ,you might be a future cannabis cup winner.

 

[Craven_au]

No, vegemite is made with love, a piece of burned toast, melted butter, vegemite, yummy.

2nd that

 

[Craven_au]

This has to be the most useless thread I think I have seen on a legit growing forum......if you look hard enough you can find minerals and nutrition in ALL food/beverage products consumed by HUMAN BEINGS! Does this mean you should use them for plant nutrition......hmmmm....

If you can not afford the basics like PH up and PH down, base nutrients, then you should not be growing. Kinda like people who get pets and can not afford to take care of them properly.....

Thank you.

 

[Craven_au]

3LB's Molasses - The Miracle Addative
Info overload
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=101637&highlight=Molasses+hydroponic

 

[danks]

thus here is a little ingredient list to santa cruz root organic rootbeer.http://www.lukecole.com/Root%20Beer/Luke's%20root%20beers%20-%20Santa%20Cruz.htm take a close look at the vanilla extract and potasium i believe mj loves these ingredients and yes they might be cheaper buying bulk or whatever but my point still stands that root beer is better then coca cola and you can use it for brix uptake have a nice day

 

[danks]

btw he originally wants to use it as ph down but is concerned of the high sugar intake , thanks for dropping by

 

[ShroomDr]

boutique soda, that is 100X more expensive to use than the ingredients you claim are helpful.

So i nailed it. Have fun.


Internet bitch slapping seems like something a mature person with 20 of experience would say.

 

[one Q]

when I read the title I thought.

if coke had a COCO COIR product and Nute line, sold as a package for growing Colas.

I was very disappointed that you and I are not on the same page.

 

[toohighmf]

There might be vanilla flavoring, but i sincerely doubt there is any vanilla in any of the major root beer formulations. If Jones soda (or some other boutique soda) has vanilla, you are still spending 100X more than you would if you bought the carbs and vanilla separately.

Please dont spread nonsense.



THMF comment about cola cola syrup was tongue-in-cheek, the syrup bags are still overpriced and less concentrated than nutrient store carbs. (5:1 carbonated water:syrup ratio. For Pepsi and Coke, unless they have changed it recently.) Molasses is a hell of a lot cheaper.

Absolutely. I was just trying to find a use for coca cola.. I would never. i'm a molasses man..

 

[Craven_au]

dr shrom ive been doing this for over 20 years if you ever tell me that what i say is nonsense i will internet bitch slap you. thus here is a little ingredient list to santa cruz root organic rootbeer.http://www.lukecole.com/Root%20Beer/Luke's%20root%20beers%20-%20Santa%20Cruz.htm take a close look at the vanilla extract and potasium i believe mj loves these ingredients and yes they might be cheaper buying bulk or whatever but my point still stands that root beer is better then coca cola and you can use it for brix uptake have a nice day

Thx danks i thought the rootbeer info was very interesting.
Do you use it for hydro or organic and dose it work as a ph down?

 

[ShroomDr]

Hows this for interesting. Rootbeer shouldnt have vanilla anyway. Vanilla a cheap substitute for Sasafrass root (hence ROOTbeer).

So the referenced overpriced boutique 'rootbeer' isnt ROOTBEER anyway. Its cane sugar, carbonated water, and vanilla extract. Ive never seen anyone advocating carbonated water (or vanilla), so why in the fuck would you want to add these things?

 

[*mistress*]

kemisty,fisiology,simple tecs.teehee

kemisty,fisiology,simple tecs.teehee

Had a crazy idea today can coca cola be used as ph down i did a test in a 20L bucket and got the ph down to 6 with 5 cap fulls am i insane

Could all that sugar be good for the plant?

haha... interesting thread....
kemikal, & pfysiological data ---> --->

Vinegar and pH @ #11 in part:

l.morgan, ph.d, vegetable production:

"nitric and phosphoric acids are not considered organic, but there are some viable alternatives...

...a good alternative we have found is acetic acid or white vinegar. this is a natural acid made from vegetation...

...acetic acid is a weak acid, having a ph of 2-3 compared to some of the others used in hydroponics...

...organics acids, such as acetic acid, are weak in nature because they undergo less dissociation (releasing h+ ions) than stronger acids...

...for example, phosphoric acid dissociates (splits up) to give three [3] h+ ions to lower the ph, whereas acetic acid only dissociates to give one [1] h+ ion, lowerin ph to a lesser degree than the stronger acid...

...that is why, when using acetic acid... larger quanitites will be required than if you were using phosphoric or nitric acid, and it will need to be added more often...

...however, acetic acid doesn't add any extra mineral to the solution and therefore won't affect CF (concentration).

chemistry
acetic acid (weak acid):
HC2H3O2 --> H+C2H3O2-

phosphoric acid (strong acid):
H3PO4 --> H + + H+ + H+ + PO4^3-

&

Anyone know Molasses breakdown? @ #16 in part:

sugar matter
soluble carbohydrates(disaccharide and monosaccharide hexose sugars). mineral matter tends to hold sucrose in solution, so it is the balance of reducing sugar and mineral matter that determines the theoretical yield of sucrose from sugar cane. the residual syrup is very often referred to as blackstrap molasses.

non-sugar organic matter
non-sugar organic matter of molasses accounts for many of its physical properties, in particular viscosity. It consists mainly of carbohydrates, such as starch, nitrogen compounds (which gives beet molasses its earthy flavour and smell) and organic acids.

the proportion of crude protein in standard cane molasses is very low averaging about 3-5%.

crude protein/6.25=nitrogen content...

mineral matter
calcium - up to 1%
potassium & sodium (as chlorides)
magnesium
sulfur
copper ~7ppm
zinc ~10ppm
iron ~200ppm
manganese ~200ppm

see also calculating npk/nutrient profile

for how to calculate ppms of molasses, other food (labels) used for garden...fert ppms/ec/millimoles, etc, etc... by formula, calc, etc, etc...

Ive never seen anyone advocating carbonated water (or vanilla), so why in the %&*) would you want to add these things?

"ask ed (rosenthal), cc# 33 (in part):

[question:]
does misting plants with a carbonated water (no sodium) help with the c02 thing?

[answer:]
yes it does. ...contains water with c02. when it is sprayed on the plants it is absorbed by the leaves for a little while and if there is not a lot of ventilation the parts per million of c02 is increased in the immediate area surrounding the leaf. to be effective, this should be repeated several tymes a day. "

carbonated water = dissolved c02...
1l water may hold 8g c02.

maybe... 5g (1 tsp) molasses/4liters, ~every other feed...
ph to 5.0-5.5 vinegar..
myst w/ sparkling h20 1-2x/24h...
gh fnb @ 5-15ml/4l, w/ coco, feed-water-feed...

keep it simple tec w/ simple items. hope this help

 

[ShroomDr]

You are the worst ball buster ever, your not even good at it. I would put you on ignore, like many others, but i like a good laugh.

Ed's not recommending adding carbonation to the substrate, your quotation of me and subsequent blurb is irrelevant in a thread about soda's potential benefit to subtrates. And FWIW Ed Rosenthal doesnt know shit, he just writes about other peoples gardens.

What, you couldnt find a vanilla extract reference?