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Plenty of equipment an i need 4lbs a harvest how would you do it ?

usda101

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As the title says there you have it . I have plenty 1000kws cool tubes 2 open bulb with econo reflectors . I have 2 6x4 flood tables 1 4x4 table . btw im looking for a good light mover if anyone has any suggestions on where i ca pick up one at a good price . This will be my first grow that will be posting an would like input from pros .So im listening SOG ? SCROG ? Any suggestions on good hoods that i can convert my tubes to... or a good reflector i can add to my tubes .Any thing im missing i have no problem purchasing . I will be running SFVK ,LEMON SKUNK, KUSHBERRY and WHITE RHINO . I would like to use 2kws max in lighting .
 
I would start by practicing! Denial and Error Boy! get to work, do some research.

The search button works really well here, nuff said! A little tip use advanced search and use title only will help narrow it down. Lots of good journals here to learn from.
 

Sam the Caveman

Good'n Greasy
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4 lbs per 2kws is a dialed in setup, co2 and usually mono-cropped. I wouldn't expect it within the first few harvests.

So if you want 4 lbs your first harvest using multiple strains without co2, I would use 3kws. A light mover will help by 10% or so, but an extra light is about the same price and will bring a lot more than 10%.
 

bendoslendo

Member
You mean 2000watts right? I assume you don't intend to run 2000 1kw lights over 3 tables.

At 2kw your going to need to hit .9grams per watt which is a feet for a first timer.

If you need 4lbs per harvest I'd recommend 4Kw throwing 65-80sqft footprint. Shouldn't be too hard to hit .5grams per watt with 60-50watts per sqft.

Just do your research, make sure you've got the essentials covered. Light, Air and Nutrients.
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
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This has been covered in two other threads yesterday, about "What
s most productive" and "best yielding system" or something like that. Basically, to SOG with 0-7 days veg I recommend 4 clones per square foot. 2KW over a 4X6 probably won't get you 4#, but 3-4KW over your two tables should. So in your case you have two 4X6 tables, let's say 2KW each, so you have 64 square feet total, and need 256 good clones to get there with a SOG. That means you would start with around 300 clones to get 256 good ones. 6" pots of course, the white square ones work well. I'd do coco and CNS17 nutes, run ssh or G13, something that yields well. Dongle69 did this with SSH, and got 14# out of 6 lights, no CO2. She was quite an expert though!

Oh, and get better hoods, Radiant, SS1, or Magnums. Most other hoods are complete garbage by comparison.
 

dgr

Member
Lazyman,
Love your headbang grow. I'm certainly not one to school you but I see 48 square feet there.
 

usda101

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I would start by practicing! Denial and Error Boy! get to work, do some research.

The search button works really well here, nuff said! A little tip use advanced search and use title only will help narrow it down. Lots of good journals here to learn from.
No doubt GLIFE , as i have studied a lot an need to continue to do so...just trying to pick the brains of the pro's before my first posted grow . Thanks for your input
 

Scrogerman

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Take a real Good look at Heath robinson's Grows fella, id be looking at either his waterfarm vert grows for ease of use, or his stadium vert style grows, the mans a genius when it comes to yielding massive weights. Id try n copy his style with vert grows if i were you, not so sure E&F trays a sog would cut it but plenty of people do, just i see it being easier to achieve the kind of weights your after following someone like Heath! heres a link:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=181239
G'Luck ;)
 

usda101

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4 lbs per 2kws is a dialed in setup, co2 and usually mono-cropped. I wouldn't expect it within the first few harvests.

So if you want 4 lbs your first harvest using multiple strains without co2, I would use 3kws. A light mover will help by 10% or so, but an extra light is about the same price and will bring a lot more than 10%.
Thanks Sam, I will be picking up light mover today ...considering co2 as well . I have 6 -1000s so adding a light wont be a problem . Going with GH flora series , but i am open to other nutes if you have any suggestion ? Just trying to make my first posted grow a success an contribute to the community . (Now let me figure out how to multireply).
 

Sam the Caveman

Good'n Greasy
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I've seen a comparision grow between dutchmaster gold and floranova, the dm had higher yield. It was a sog under a 1kw on a light mover.

I've been a fan of dm for a while now. I don't read of too many people that use it though. There are a few threads about it though if you want to read more about it.
 

usda101

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You mean 2000watts right? I assume you don't intend to run 2000 1kw lights over 3 tables.

At 2kw your going to need to hit .9grams per watt which is a feet for a first timer.

If you need 4lbs per harvest I'd recommend 4Kw throwing 65-80sqft footprint. Shouldn't be too hard to hit .5grams per watt with 60-50watts per sqft.

Just do your research, make sure you've got the essentials covered. Light, Air and Nutrients.
Sorry for my newb mistakes Bendoslendo, Yes i mean 2000watts . An thanks for your input . Once i pick up last of materials carbon scrubber , light mover considering co2 and decide wat nutes... Im off to the races ! Thanks .
 

usda101

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Let me thank everyone in advance who may add there knowledge an opinions to my thread . LAZYMAN thanks for the suggestions on strains an hoods , An if i decide to change table sizes i will take your math an anyone else's math an recompute . SAM THE MAN i surley will look at dutchmasters link . I admire your work an if your getting rsults i would be open to trying it ,I wonder how they compare to GH 3 part. A side by side would be intresting along the way . Expect plenty of PM's from me tho . SCROGERMAN ,vertical is the shit ! I surely will check out heaths work , I have to take an analaysis of my situation ,Im thinking about firing up all my lights then i could take clones off flood table a week after flipping 12/12 ,Veg those then put them in vert for next run . THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE . ALL DECISIONS WIL BE MADE IN A WEEK .
 

halitzor

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As the title says there you have it . I have plenty 1000kws cool tubes 2 open bulb with econo reflectors . I have 2 6x4 flood tables 1 4x4 table . btw im looking for a good light mover if anyone has any suggestions on where i ca pick up one at a good price . This will be my first grow that will be posting an would like input from pros .So im listening SOG ? SCROG ? Any suggestions on good hoods that i can convert my tubes to... or a good reflector i can add to my tubes .Any thing im missing i have no problem purchasing . I will be running SFVK ,LEMON SKUNK, KUSHBERRY and WHITE RHINO . I would like to use 2000kws max in lighting .

I just bought 2 of these and they work great.

I use 1, 1000w on a 7ft light mover with a 39" parabolic reflector. 21 5 gallon buckets with perlite drip to waste. With c02 and 2 weeks veg time 4lbs no problem.

http://www.amazon.com/Rail-Hydroponic-Light-Mover-Motor/dp/B003ZZJ60C
 

BongRipkenJR.

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A first time grower with a first time setup with multiple strains. Good luck man! Not saying it can't be done though.

Make sure you are keeping those lights cool! Lights and tables are only a minor part of your grow. Use all one strain as well and get to know that strain. If you are in Cali I would run blue dream for a first time grow. Though I dont like the high from White Rhino it can yield heavy for you when dialed in.

Run 2 lights on each 6x4 table, gh micro, kool bloom, and botanicare sweet. Look up ebb and flow with hydroton and rockwool. Feed 2-3 times a day at 15 minute intervals. It is very simple and yields. I however hate the taste that mineral based fertilizers create, but most people can't tell the difference unless they have been smoking for years!

There are plenty of ways to get big yields. In order to get 4 pounds for every 2k watts you use, you will have to have your system dialed in and use co2 which I don't recommend for a noob. I have been growing for years and even though I know whats up with co2 the hassle of it has kept me clear of it. My post probably wont help you lol
 

mcattak

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I use 1, 1000w on a 7ft light mover with a 39" parabolic reflector. 21 5 gallon buckets with perlite drip to waste. With c02 and 2 weeks veg time 4lbs no problem.

Looked through your posts .... Can you point me in the direction of one that shows you pulling 4+ with 2 weeks of veg with 1k..No problem...

thanks

mc
 

FunkBomb

Power Armor rules
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Check out BudBug's tent SOG's. Those are about as simple and to the point you can get. Not to mention the yields are big too.

-Funk
 

BongRipkenJR.

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I use 1, 1000w on a 7ft light mover with a 39" parabolic reflector. 21 5 gallon buckets with perlite drip to waste. With c02 and 2 weeks veg time 4lbs no problem.

Looked through your posts .... Can you point me in the direction of one that shows you pulling 4+ with 2 weeks of veg with 1k..No problem...

thanks

mc


I would love to see pictures. A 7ft light mover would be stretching your light so thin!

Oh I get it! Sarcasm! I feel dumb now :bashhead:
 
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