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Are you ready for the truth?...thread
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yeah well maybe you shouldn't tell people that in person, unless you plan on fleshing that idea out a bit more.
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onehitjake
In a world where the general population is programmed to love their pills, the bitter pill of truth is one most would rather not take.
People filter all input through their belief systems.
Most even deny that their beliefs were decided for them depending on time and geographic location of birth. (excluding those who've decided to opt out of the regional accepted beliefs)
Truth is all around us, but very few see much of any of it.
When denial is less powerful than truth, we may achieve enlightenment.
People filter all input through their belief systems.
Most even deny that their beliefs were decided for them depending on time and geographic location of birth. (excluding those who've decided to opt out of the regional accepted beliefs)
Truth is all around us, but very few see much of any of it.
When denial is less powerful than truth, we may achieve enlightenment.
Dr. Dank
Active member
I want what your token bro. Thats an interesting theroy and i wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Is this the banana =god thing again?
As far as stoners being open to other cultures and stuff I call complete and utter bullshit. I mean come on, stoners have a choice to go anywhere in the world and where do they go? Amsterdam.
Stoners rape people
Stoners kill people
Stoners listen to Marley
Stoners listen to gangster rap
Stoners are kind
Stoners are evil
As far as stoners being open to other cultures and stuff I call complete and utter bullshit. I mean come on, stoners have a choice to go anywhere in the world and where do they go? Amsterdam.
Stoners rape people
Stoners kill people
Stoners listen to Marley
Stoners listen to gangster rap
Stoners are kind
Stoners are evil
the article is not relative to the truth if you believe in humanity
the practice of simply being is not new or magical, nor is it the exclusive path to enlightenment (or simply thinking past a paradigm of thought which reveals "hidden" realities and freedom from the burden of the state of emotions tied to the past understanding)
its a narcissist constructed nirvana, an empty heaven limited to the constructs of one mind
of the 99.99 % that get it wrong, from Christians to Lucifarians, Jews to satanist, Buddhist to hare kristnas don't mitigate the existence or potency of mankind, life or the sanctity of being (though they vary on the perceived place among it)
in my very simple and humble opinion humanity in and of itself, is a thing of such grandeur and possibility, that to exist outside of it is to exist as a lower form of life
so what if everything that makes life beautiful has the potential to make it painful its the contrast between them increase their relative values and without our lives would be static
the truth for me is that if I live in the here and now, perceive the truth of the world around me, and live in relative accordance to it, I can effect the harmony of the beings around me
knowing this, well thats nirvana enough for me
the practice of simply being is not new or magical, nor is it the exclusive path to enlightenment (or simply thinking past a paradigm of thought which reveals "hidden" realities and freedom from the burden of the state of emotions tied to the past understanding)
its a narcissist constructed nirvana, an empty heaven limited to the constructs of one mind
of the 99.99 % that get it wrong, from Christians to Lucifarians, Jews to satanist, Buddhist to hare kristnas don't mitigate the existence or potency of mankind, life or the sanctity of being (though they vary on the perceived place among it)
in my very simple and humble opinion humanity in and of itself, is a thing of such grandeur and possibility, that to exist outside of it is to exist as a lower form of life
so what if everything that makes life beautiful has the potential to make it painful its the contrast between them increase their relative values and without our lives would be static
the truth for me is that if I live in the here and now, perceive the truth of the world around me, and live in relative accordance to it, I can effect the harmony of the beings around me
knowing this, well thats nirvana enough for me
i simply think that when i die, it will be just like before i was born. in the big picture, nothing has changed, in fact, that's what was supposed to happen, because we're supposed to die.
i have also had many close death experiences, as well as experiences where i came very close to dying via heroin overdoses. i am not afraid of death at all, because i won't even know it has happened, it will be like passing out and never waking up, or at least that's what i believe.
i am disgusted with how we have evolved, and how our society works, but that's the way it is, i can not change it. i have to live with it, or go with the flow, so to speak. but at least i don't live my life believing that i matter, or that some religious figure will be there waiting for me, when i die and decompose.
i have also had many close death experiences, as well as experiences where i came very close to dying via heroin overdoses. i am not afraid of death at all, because i won't even know it has happened, it will be like passing out and never waking up, or at least that's what i believe.
i am disgusted with how we have evolved, and how our society works, but that's the way it is, i can not change it. i have to live with it, or go with the flow, so to speak. but at least i don't live my life believing that i matter, or that some religious figure will be there waiting for me, when i die and decompose.
greentricht...that essay was written in 2003, and yes he is selling
a book he has written, but that is beside the point.
The main point of the essay is exactly what you said, that we can
see the truth for ourselves, and that once we see it, it is the same
truth for everyone. If something is 0.00001% not true then it is false
...is it not?
From what I currently observe, all I see is present moment
awareness, and that is all I have ever seen, even as I think back
on what I used to think was my past.
None of us humans have ever been anywhere except in present
moment awareness, we have always been, are now, and always
will be HERE and NOW. This is so obvious and simple, we simply
choose to ignore it, and instead are hypnotized by our thoughts
of the past and the future. The majority of folks are simply asleep,
deeply asleep, in their dream, thinking they are awake, while in
reality they are living in their head.
The first step is to see this for yourself, you don't need me to tell
you this, or any kind of book, or whatever. It is available to
everyone, because we are all currently enlightened, we simply
are not observing what "is" but are seeing what we want to see,
like our opinions, beliefs, convictions, and all kinds of other thoughts
that put us in a a sort of a fog.
Once you stop this BS in your head and open your eyes, you will see
for yourself that all there is, and can ever be, is present moment
consciousness, there is no you, no me, no nothing, except this
present moment consciousness.
This is what awake means, and a good strong psychedelic sativa
joint will help anyone to see this quite clearly. When all the fog
is wiped out from our mind, reality shows itself quite effortlessly!
...after reading all your posts, it is obvious that you are either
awake, or very close to it. This started with the accident, or did
it start before? Most likely before, the accident was simply the
moment the universe chose to show you the truth very clearly.
What suprises me the most, is that cannabis that provides a
psychadelic experience can help folks to perceive the truth, but
the majority of human beings simply use cannabis as a source
of avoiding the truth and staying exactly where they are, in deep
sleep. If a person is in a deep sleep, the first setp is to realize that
you are going to die.
Death awareness is the first step, and if you are not aware that you
are going to die every moment of your life, then you are not living.
Death is what makes life a miracle, and helps you to start observing
the truth. Why do most people live in death denial?
...because they are afraid of the truth, that there is no "them" that
will die, and this means that the truth is that they are "no-thing" at
the current moment in their life also.
But, this is exactly what makes every persons situation the most
amazing experience, that we have been given a chance to watch
the universe unfold, and have been given the chance to be a part
of this play.
Life is exactly like the first Matrix movie, except there is nothing
else except the Matrix (present moment consciousness) and when
you are not a character in the Matrix there is no more "you."
This means that there is no where to go, nothing to search for,
simply enjoy the view, until the universe decided that your character
is not interesting enough, and you will become exactly what you
were before your "role" in the Matrix started...no-thing!
...yes, it does seem that icmag has people that have awakened
and see things clearly. This thread might help a few more, but
only a few lol...the majority of folks don't want the truth.
How could a human being want the truth? To realize that everything
has been a lie in his life is one of the most painful experiences a
human being can experience, and to realize there has never been
a "he or a she" and that it has all been one long movie that has
been playing on the movie screen (and he is a just a character in
a dream) and that there will be a moment when he will be like the
"dust in the wind" -- obviously no one in their mind would want a
truth like that...you have to be crazy to want that.
...but what's ironic...is that -- that is the truth, and anyone that
opens up their eyes can see it for themselves, because the truth
is not hiding, it is right in front of us.
It is the present moment consciousness, and there is nothing and
no one except it. It is one dream, and no one awakenes from it,
you simply disappear into the abyss, once your character is not
needed by the universe.
Sandnut
Active member
does anyone have a solid number in dollars for how much aspirin, and all kinds of medicin that could be replaced by weed are sold every year in the U.S? Now compare this number into legalizing a plant that anyone could grow at home with some soil,water and a lamp.
i think thats the real issue
i think thats the real issue
Sandnut, this is not about how cannabis became illegal, but why!
It is the same with all drugs that can help the person see the truth,
including LSD, which is even better for wiping out all the BS that has
been programmed into a humans thought from the time he or she
was born.
This is why the 60's were the only time in the USA where you can truly say that there was "relative" freedom. Then J.F.K was shot,
and everything went back into the sewer (relatively speaking).
The truth is that all opinions, beliefs, convictions, are BS, they are
not rooted in reality. There is only one truth, and that is what we
are currently experiencing, but the paradox is that "no-one" is
experiencing it and "no-one" is creating the experience.
...it is just "happening" -- like everything happens in a dream!
Sandnut
Active member
my present is reality atleast my reality, and im aware of the truth, as in whats going on and whats REALLY going on, only tip of the iceberg but im aware. money makes the world go around and people are dieying because we dont want to share, everytime we see a kid dieying from hunger on television we talk about it for a couple of mins just to make sure we dont feel ashamed for not doing anything, but these things dont really consirn us, otherwise we would take the next flight to uganda to help them, instead we want sex, fame, material things and wealth.
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The truth is that all opinions, beliefs, convictions, are BS, they are
not rooted in reality. There is only one truth, and that is what we
are currently experiencing, but the paradox is that "no-one" is
experiencing it and "no-one" is creating the experience.
...it is just "happening" -- like everything happens in a dream! "
did really not understand that
"
The truth is that all opinions, beliefs, convictions, are BS, they are
not rooted in reality. There is only one truth, and that is what we
are currently experiencing, but the paradox is that "no-one" is
experiencing it and "no-one" is creating the experience.
...it is just "happening" -- like everything happens in a dream! "
did really not understand that
Sandnut, have you seen the movie Matrix? It is much easier to
explain using examples because words are ineffective in describing
the truth, i.e. words can only be "sign posts" that point to the
truth, they can't be the truth itself.
Okay, when Morpheus is showing Neo the Matrix using the program,
this is what the "happening" means. It is a never-ending dream that
is perceived as the "present moment consciousness."
Only in reality, there is nothing except the Matrix, when you awaken,
and see the truth, the only thing that really changes is your
perspective. You realize that you are not a "seperate" human
being in the universe, but that you and everyone and everything
else is "the ever-present-monent-consciousness."
You are consciousness, your thoughts, beliefs, opinions, convictions,
and everything else, EVERYTHING ELSE, in the universe is simply
this "one" ever-present-moment-consciousness.
This is not something the mind can grasp, you have to put thinking
aside and "observe" instead of trying to see something through the
filters of your thinking (opinion, beliefs, convictions, etc.)
This is something very simple and obvious, and this is why the
majority of people are not aware of it, and are not awake.
It does not get any simpler...you are not experiencing, or observing
anything, you and everything else in the universe...simply...and very,
very obviously...is "the one, undivided, non-dual experience."
...there "is" nothing else besides this, even all illusions, delusions,
and BS that we think are spinning in our minds, are part of this one
experience. This is what means "All is ONE."
...the majority of people heard it, but don't understand it, and it is
the meaning behind the question, "what do you hear when only one
hand claps?"...nothing, emptiness, the void, the abyss, silence!
...there is no "you" no "self" -- there is only "experience" that is
happening, and there is no one observing it, or experiencing it.
...When you observe this, observation ends and the awakened
state begins...until this moment you are asleep in the dream,
when you realize this you are awake in the dream, and when
you start to feel it, you are awake, and become the "one"
and "only" experience that there "is."
...hope this made it a little clearer!
Sandnut
Active member
I do understand what you are trying to explain to a certain point, some stuff is really difficult for me to understand i mean to really understand, right now im about to drink a glass of milk, i know how it will taste and i know where i will put down the glass when im done, all of this even before it has occured, BUT, what if the milk is old, and i notice that when im drinking it, and i have a totally different experience and I end up dropping my glass to the ground? If this is a never-ending dream that
is perceived as the "present moment consciousness " how come i can't do ANYTHING right now like in a real dream, i mean i can do whatever i want but for instance if i look at my hands and really believe they are burning they still wont. If i get shot tomorrow i will feel the pain of how it feels to be shot, even tho i've never experienced this before and i've never been taught how it feels?
is perceived as the "present moment consciousness " how come i can't do ANYTHING right now like in a real dream, i mean i can do whatever i want but for instance if i look at my hands and really believe they are burning they still wont. If i get shot tomorrow i will feel the pain of how it feels to be shot, even tho i've never experienced this before and i've never been taught how it feels?
I don't believe you are one of those people. I don't believe you know the truth.
...everything you described "is" the one universal consciousness,
and just like in a dream, you don't do anything, it just happens.
...it is hard to grasp for you because you are trying to grasp it with
your mind, and this is impossible. You have to observe, and at one
moment you will notice you are the experience itself. This is how it
happens for everyone that actually wakes up. You are on your way,
at least that is what it seems like from your post, maybe I'm wrong,
I can't know, only you can know this.
Like that saying that is popular in America...shit happens...lol, now
you know where it comes from
In other words, you, the milk, your thoughts, the planet, the
universe, is all "one-universal-consciousness" -- there is no
seperation, there is nothing except a "movie" on a movie screen,
without a projector, without an audience, without a movie theater,
without nothing, and even without the screen, just the movie, with
characters, and stuff that are all "one-experience."
It is very simple and very obvious when you are awake, and it is
really complicated and obscured when you are not.
I am not making this up, you can see this for yourself, if you really
want, you don't need me, or anyone else, and especially you don't
need books.
Just simply observe that there is no experiencer, no observer, and
that everything is one-universal-consciousness, and it will reveal
itself to you, and then the you that you thought was you, will
simply become the "experience" of you.
It will simply be a change of perspective, nothing grandiose will
happen, you will simply know the truth, and will be awake.
