Rabbit poo for tea

[OZZ_]

Im working on a worm bin but until its up and running we have a pet rabbit and Ive been collecting its pellets. Ive been using it to ammend the soil Im going to use in the upcoming grow, but in the meantime Im wondering if I can put some in a gallon of areated water and make some tea.

Ive read most of the compost tea threads as well as many others but most dont talk specifically about making tea from rabbit manure. Would areated rabbit tea contain the same benefits as compost tea?

Any suggestions? Also, Ild like to use it on some seedlings I have going so Im wondering as to what amounts to use on mature plants vs seedlings.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

 

[halitzor]

Also quite curious because I have a rabbit. He is good for getting rid of the fan leaves

 

[fonzee]

I would compost it before using it.

It is VERY potent and you should use only a friction of the amount you would use compost in the same deal.

If I recall correctly it contains TONS of nitrogen. You could spray it on your seedlings if you dilute the tea REALLY well.

I would just sift some castings from the worm bin and make some tea with that.
a tablespoons of EWC should be enough for 0.5L of compost tea. If you dilute it at 1:4 ratio thats pretty much enough for seedlings, ain't it?

 

[Phedrosbenny]

No it wouldnt be the same as compost tea.Alot of people dont get that compost tea by itself is really for the microbes.Feed the soil not the plant..........Rabbit manure tea would be like some type of nutrient tea similar to kelp tea I would guess.Im not sure of the breakdown on rabbit manure though.You should be able to look it up pretty easy.


Good luck with your garden.

 

[OZZ_]

Thanks for the input, I decided to hell with it and took a gallon of water and bubbled it for 24 hours, I then added 1/2 teaspoon molasses, 2 tablespoons of rabbit manure, 2 tablespoons of bagged mushroom compost that has been dumped into a bucket and sitting outside for about 4 months, 2 tablespoons of recycled potting soil (its been ammended and been cooking) from the last grow, and 1 tablespoon of alfalfa rabbit feed pellets. Its been bubbling since this morning and is starting to foam up and get frothy like the tutorials Ive seen here. Ill post pics tomorrow.

For the record, Im making it for seedlings so didnt want to go to heavy on the amounts. Just looking for a light, beneficial tea ... and your correct, Im after the microbs here ... hence the mushroom compost that has been stored outside (in hopes it has developed some natural beneficials) as well as the used/ammended soil from last grow that has been cooking for about 4 weeks.

Now as to how to go about using it and how well it will work, I have no clue lol. Not sure if I should cut it with water or if I made it weak enough for the seedlings.

Ill probably water lightly with it in a day or two...

 

[fonzee]

dilute it at least 1:4. I'd dilute it 1:9 myself.
If your soils is somewhat healthy you should really need anything in the seedling stage. If you decide to use anything - dilute it well.

 

[OZZ_]

I thought I should probably dilute it for the seedlings.....


I didnt have any buckets left, so I used a 1 gallon wine jug .... the teas doing great.... as for the jug ... not so much lol..

Looks like its doing what its suppossed to be doing wouldnt ya say?

 

[fonzee]

seems like it does, but you would be better off giving it more surface that touches the air. It needs to breathe.

 

[headband 707]

Bra there is a reason you don't hear that ppl don't use rabbit feces for their grow .. Feces indeed all animal feces contian dangerous pathagens not fit for human consumption. Please do more reasearch before using any type of feces in your grow as it's really not worth it unless it's worm. lol peace out Headband707

 

[OZZ_]

"Bra there is a reason you don't hear that ppl don't use rabbit feces for their grow"

"Please do more reasearch before using any type of feces in your grow as it's really not worth it unless it's worm."

Headband .... all due respect but thats actually quite wrong. Theres hundreds of threads touting rabbit poo as the best organic out there (next best to castings anyway). Certainly as a soil ammendment its fantastic. Theres some that have planted in straight rabbit poo. Its got the best N-P-K ratio of any manure out there and is the only one that can be used straight without composting.

Rabbit poo is gold ....

Now, as a tea though ... that could be debatable I suppose lol and there doesnt seem to be much info on the subject - and is the reason I posted this thread.


"seems like it does, but you would be better off giving it more surface that touches the air. It needs to breathe."

I hear ya, I just didnt have any buckets around so I just went with it. Im hitting up the nursury and some other stores today to get some more supplies..

 

[Phedrosbenny]

It sounds like it is a well made tea.The molsaases and compost for the microbes and the rest for fertalization.The only thing I would be concerned about is putting it on seedlings.Seedlings burn easy.If it was me I would dilute it atleast 4/1 and I would try it first on one of my older plants.

Well "Good Luck" with your grow.

 

[OZZ_]

Thanks for the input ... and right back at ya!

The seedlings have two or three sets of leaves at this point.... but Ill be sure to dilute well!

 

[headband 707]

"Bra there is a reason you don't hear that ppl don't use rabbit feces for their grow"

"Please do more reasearch before using any type of feces in your grow as it's really not worth it unless it's worm."

Headband .... all due respect but thats actually quite wrong. Theres hundreds of threads touting rabbit poo as the best organic out there (next best to castings anyway). Certainly as a soil ammendment its fantastic. Theres some that have planted in straight rabbit poo. Its got the best N-P-K ratio of any manure out there and is the only one that can be used straight without composting.

Rabbit poo is gold ....

Now, as a tea though ... that could be debatable I suppose lol and there doesnt seem to be much info on the subject - and is the reason I posted this thread.


"seems like it does, but you would be better off giving it more surface that touches the air. It needs to breathe."

I hear ya, I just didnt have any buckets around so I just went with it. Im hitting up the nursury and some other stores today to get some more supplies..

Bra I DO NOT use any animal feces and I really do wish ppl would stop and look into it further. They went on and on about bat quano too and we all know how bad that is and bird shit. You can grow your bud without animal feces really great bud so why go down this path? I could go on and on but why lol lol.It's not in the animal feces your going to find your great potency it's in the strain the rest is gravy. peace out Headband707

 

[headband 707]

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[OZZ_]

Well, the rabbit is a pet rabbit, that never sees outdoors and that information is pertaining to wild rabbits (a very different topic) so 90%++ of that is non-applicable and the risks just arent there ... but I do understand what you are trying to get at.

Why do I want to use it? Well, because its free... its natural, and its recycling at its finest. Plus it is one of the most valuable of all the manures - why would I throw it out when I have it right here at my disposal and it is a fantastic fert? Between rabbit poo and the EWC from the worm bin (just getting established), along with other free things that typically would go to waste (used coffee grounds, nettle/comfrey teas) ... I can have all my fertilization needs met - without spending money on advertised products .... and I like that idea. I don't understand why peeps spend $$ on expensive ferts to grow plants when they throw shit in their trash everyday that will do it just as well.

I do admit I also add some lime and some tomato tone as well, but Ill be doing some experimentation to see if I can cut them out and stick to my rabbit pellets, ewc, and other natural .... and most importantly free ferts etc, etc.

Thanks for your opinion though, I appreciate all input!! As for the tea, I used it and the seedlings are looking great. Perked them right up and I dumped the remainder on my container chilli's outdoors.

 

[headband 707]

LOL you rabbit looks very sweet bra and I do hate to be the bearer of bad news about the shit lol.. I would just like ppl to be very very careful about things like this.. I hope I didn't offend .. Most ppl started to use things like this because they were very poor. There was a lack of education that is now available to ppl that was not then. Of-course the enviourmental pollution has contributed to the birds shits demize over the year etc. I hope this helps peace out Headband707

 

[johnny butt]

If you're really itching to use it, I'd start a small compost pile this summer. Composting will make the nutrients more readily available to your plants as well as break down the urine that most likely came into contact with the pellets.

I've never used it as a tea, just an additive in my outdoor veggie garden, and always composted. I'll be watching to see how it turns out.

JB

 

[headband 707]

If you're really itching to use it, I'd start a small compost pile this summer. Composting will make the nutrients more readily available to your plants as well as break down the urine that most likely came into contact with the pellets.

I've never used it as a tea, just an additive in my outdoor veggie garden, and always composted. I'll be watching to see how it turns out.

JB

Agreed if you really MUST use it lol I would let it break down in the compost pile for a year before I used it.......!!!!.... lol.. This way all things will be broken down and you can be safer!!! then just digging in.. But go out and buy some nice fertizers lol peace out Headband707

 

[OZZ_]

No worries.....no offense taken by any means. I've had great luck using it as my sole fert for my chillies..and there's been many others use it as well (which is what turned me on to it) . Its my girls rabbit but the little guy is a factory giving me about 2 cups a day of pellets. As mentioned its the only manure that doesn't require composting before use. At any rate if I was going to compost it ild just throw it to the worms, but the chillies love it straight into the soil. Just wasn't sure about using it as a tea so figured ild ask.I guess it probably does have a good chance of going anaerobic so probably is best used in the soil. I can say the seedlings perked right up after using it though s so looks a little more experimentation is in order.

As far as using it in the soil goes its me and bugs all the way baby! Lol...I've seen great things from my chillies to much to ignore and I gotta think NJ would be similar.

 

[3rdEye]

cool thread OZZ. I'm watching this as i'm beginning to take more interest in recycling the way nature does. As for the safety of the poo? Plants don't take up animal pathogens. In the sense that they somehow absorb them. That just doesn't happen. If a person were to spray the plants with a non-composted animal poop tea, let's say, that would be ill advised. Using animal products in the soil itself is quite safe IME/IMO.