anybody elses can size reflect the size of there plants?

[Guest]

most all know that the larger the can the larger the root mass, and the more yield associated with the final product.

has anyone noticed that a wider, larger diameter can produces a wider bush? or that a taller narrower can produces a taller tighter plant?

havent done a study, burt seems that whatever type can I use, the plant reflects what its planted in.

also noticed for max production, you must have whatever size can you use almost full with roots before flower. I see lots of peeps upcannin right before sendin the plant to the flower spot. seems that when upcannin, you have to let the plant fill the can almost completely before flowerin. at least in my OP, I get a bigger better product that way.

also prefer a taller narrower can in flower than a large diameter can. just appears that the final product is larger and more robust when harvested.

whats your thoughts with your grows

CBF

 

[Guest]

soil schmoil!





THC

 

[Guest]

well this grow law is not exactly true , (the more root space the bigger the yield) and it is probably more of a myth ,,then reality

i think the pic proves the theory , that food , light & good stable grow environment , & strain creates the big yields



peace

 

[Guest]

well this grow law is not exactly true , (the more root space the bigger the yield) and it is probably more of a myth ,,then reality

i think the pic proves the theory , that food , light & good stable grow environment , & strain creates the big yields



peace

nice grow man, but wouldnt that plant have produced much more bud if it had a bigger can with the same conditions you grew it under?

im not sayin its fact just somethin I observed in my OP. heres a PR in a dinky pot, and it made nice bud, was prolly root bound by the end for sure, im sure I would of had more plant in a bigger can.

CBF

 

[Guest]

soil schmoil!





THC

LOL

 

[Guest]

yeah i guess man .. but what i mean is ,, the grow law says 5 liter's soil for every 30cm's of growth .. that's not true !!!

but i have seen many plants growing in 70 liter's of soil and with Hi Tech grow shit & 10 different kinds of fert's & never produced more then 100 g's of bud , so go figure !!!

that pot there is 10 liter's , Nirvana's BIG BUD & i couldn't even imagine that plant in 70 liter's of soil , i think it would be impossible to grow her , you would need thousands of watts man

so also Bog's K.I.S.S theory is correct to the bone man ..the more simpler you grow , the better the plants

peace

 

[Guest]

I agree on the kiss theroy, simple as I can get it, I dont use any supplements durin a grow, i find when my OP is at the right temps and gettin plenty of fresh air i get my best yields. here it seems spring and fall produce the best plants indoors.

Im still amazed at your plant bro, that is freakin huge in that little can. very impressive plant.

CBF

 

[Guest]

yeah i guess man .. but what i mean is ,, the grow law says 5 liter's soil for every 30cm's of growth .. that's not true !!!

right, and maybe im not gettin my point across as well...........

what im tryin to say is i had two romulan sativa cuts in different pots, close to the same volume, but one was in a narrower/taller can, the other in a shorter wider can. the plants grew different.

narrow taller can........the plant had more branchin, was tighter and taller. she even appeared better lookin and healthier.

wide short can.......same plant had fewer branches, the plant appeared spindly, and the fans where twice the size of the other.

so to me it seems that even the can you grow in will effect the final outcome of a certain plant. like I said its not a study, just somethin ive been ponderin and wanted to see what others thought.

and there pics as well

CBF

 

[bartender187]

ive noticed alot of the same things....

ive actually, been using step-pottin and wider pots, to try and make the plant grow in the standard "bush" style.

It seems to work... this time around i didnt top any of the plants, and only MINIMALLY trained them

here they are

 

[Guest]

ive noticed alot of the same things....

ive actually, been using step-pottin and wider pots, to try and make the plant grow in the standard "bush" style.

It seems to work... this time around i didnt top any of the plants, and only MINIMALLY trained them

here they are

nice bartender, kinda what im thinkin as well. seems the plants top flattens out like a umbrella phenotype with the wider cans.

when I train and pinch for a bush and upcan to big pots right at flower, I get smaller yields then when i use the same can and let the plant fill it some before flippin I get a larger better product.

also have read that square pots will reduce root spinout vs a round can. which promotes better growth. so im thinkin theres somethin in the shape and size of your cans.

CBF

 

[Guest]

yeah man .. i can understand your theory , yeah of course if the roots have only room to go down , then the plant will react by growing up

if the pots are wide then the plant reacts & grows out

i have like 20 different kind of pots here , that i use for certain strains , because i too have noticed that the shape & size of the pot , makes a big difference with certain strains

peace

 

[Secret Room]

Plants like to go deep rather than wide. They will fill a pot with roots only after they cannot go deep anymore. If you notice on root bound plants they start circling the bottom of the pot. When I transplanted my sexed clones and let to let them flower they were root bound in 6" pots then I transplanted to larger pots to finish up. I cut them yesterday and pulled out the rapid rooter plug and their roots came up & were down to the bottom of a 1 gallon pot after being in it 3 wks. I personally have had good results with 5 gallon paint buckets because they are tall.

 

[OG bub]

High all!
in my observation, plants appreciate as much root space as can be afforded, and will grow overall better.
Ive grown n shallow/wide plots, and deep/narrow plots. best results are found with Deep and wide plots.
Sher, Ive banged out nice shrubbs in lil buckets, it can be done with proper care n attention. But a plant will preform better with a larger container.

I do think some folks over-do it sometimes tho, for size of plant any way.

Ill post some pics later.

edit> root systems like to grow wide for the firs 2-12 inches of depth (depending on thesize of the root system) "feeder Roots", after that the system narrows and will grow deep.

 

[guest123]

i find it is definately the case cbf , and ill have to disagree with the last post from secret room , they prefer to go outwards with their roots ...
ive grown in about every sort of container i could find , and found they are no where near as good as the growth youll get putting them in the ground .. .
let them roots go free to do what they want ..... the root system does reflect the top of the plant and visa versa ... if you force feed them you will gain some , but overall your pot size will reflect the size and shape of plants ...

 

[guest123]

i ve found the surface roots of some plants ive grown in the ground will go several metres across the top and just under the soil , but not very deep , if they are fed all they require , there isnt much need to go searching for food ....

 

[OG bub]

amen wally!
4x4 ft holes outdoors in good ground grows Monsters!

 

[Guest]

i ve found the surface roots of some plants ive grown in the ground will go several metres across the top and just under the soil , but not very deep , if they are fed all they require , there isnt much need to go searching for food ....

hey wally thanks for commin by. i have some big phat 15/20 gallon tree pots. ive grown a few plants in the 15 gallon ones, xplanted at the flip, and only the top half gets full of roots, they dont go to the bottom. so ive seen that even indoors.

beginnin of oct all my mothers are goin in these cans and im gonna veg in um some then flip. really lookin forward to the huge produce. after talkin here on it, i think my bud size will improve over the finger bud I been gettin with the big pots. root mass, even if they become a bit rootbound towards the end of finish, is what im needin

thanks all for the input

CBF

 

[Guest]

amen wally!
4x4 ft holes outdoors in good ground grows Monsters!

Planted Earth

the ultimate can

CBF

 

[Guest]

a small restrictive root zone will produce tighter buds and finish faster, but you gots ta be there with your watering can in hand, too small a pot means watering twice a day something I like to avoid

this thread should be in the growers forum

 

[Guest]

i had a three gallon finish at 40 days when her gentic twin, took twice as long.