guano and kelp tea recipe#3

[captinknots]

the mix from the tea article is listed below. My question is, isnt 1 or 2 cups of guano to 5 (more like 4) gallons of water a shit ton of guano?
isnt it more like a T (tablespoon) per gal?

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.

 

[Manitoid]

The recipe calls for making a dry mix in the proportions 33% PSG 33% High N Bat 33% Earth Worm Castings and a dash powdered kelp

then when you have a big pile of that mixed all up, mix a cup of it with 5 gallons water.

I have never used this particular mix for my ACT tea. it seems way more complex then it needs to be.

From experience I have found it is most advantageous to mix everything into your soil mix (ie something like recipe #1 or #2). it will prove to you to be simpler, cheaper, and did i mention simpler and cheaper!

Then your tea only really needs EWC, Molasses, and Kelp.

 

[torealforthcbay]

yup that seems like alot!

in most teas, for nutes, youll put maybe a half cup of a meal in your 5 gallon bucket for a tea. guano is way stronger and they are asking for a full cup! thats like 32 Tablespoons or 7 tablespoons per gallon, because a 5 gallon bucket doesnt hold 5 gallons of tea, maybe 4.

I wouldnt 7 Tablspoons of guano in my 1 gallon of tea, I know that........

what do you guys think?

 

[Iron_Lion]

I call bull shit on those recipes, I know those are like gosel around here but that much ingredients per 5 gal of water and it would be BURN city.

I use one tbs per gal of guano/ewc/kelp/molasses and sometimes even that is too much for them. I dont even use teas very often I;ve actually found top dress to be much more effective, teas I only use to boost the colony after a few weeks growth.

Those recipes would be fine if they were being cut with 20 more gallons of water. Unless maybe you are working with an inert medium. also, i dont see why peruvian seabird guano would even be needed after the second week flower.

 

[Stoned Crow]

I call bull shit on those recipes, I know those are like gosel around here but that much ingredients per 5 gal of water and it would be BURN city.

I use one tbs per gal of guano/ewc/kelp/molasses and sometimes even that is too much for them. I dont even use teas very often I;ve actually found top dress to be much more effective, teas I only use to boost the colony after a few weeks growth.

I agree. I think you have to also take into account how old your soil is. If you're reusing your soil, amending the soil after flower, and feeding weekly, your soil is gonna be pretty rich, and have some food in it at all times.

If I have the time, I feed every watering. However, if I don't have the time, sometimes I don't feed for 3 weeks. My point is that it doesn't bother me to go 3 weeks without feeding b/c I know the soil is strong enough to carry the plant.

Now, if my plants are showing a deficiency of any type, I find the time to feed........SC

 

[captinknots]

I call bull shit on those recipes, I know those are like gosel around here but that much ingredients per 5 gal of water and it would be BURN city.

I use one tbs per gal of guano/ewc/kelp/molasses and sometimes even that is too much for them. I dont even use teas very often I;ve actually found top dress to be much more effective, teas I only use to boost the colony after a few weeks growth.

Those recipes would be fine if they were being cut with 20 more gallons of water. Unless maybe you are working with an inert medium. also, i dont see why peruvian seabird guano would even be needed after the second week flower.

Thats what i was thinking....
do have any theories why a top dress would be more effective then a tea? you use more in a top dress, right?

 

[Manitoid]

And top dressing and then watering serves to not be mixing nutrients all the time.

"water until harvest" is a thing to behold.

even with that said i still water with EWC, molasses, kelp tea. because quality can go higher that "water until harvest" can provide.

mix everything in ahead of time, then respond to the plants desires down the road.

talk to her, ask her what she wants in life, take her out on a date...







Then burn her to the ground






Oh and my only experience with aerated compost tea (ACT) is in a 50 gallon barrel:

2+ gallons Earth Worm Castings
1 cup High P bat guano
1+ cup kelp meal
1 cup molasses
1 cup Fox Farm Peace of Mind Bloom (good NPK for flower, and SUPER Inoculant)
1/2 cup powdered rock phosphate, for phosphate long term but more in this instance for giving mycelia something to hold onto floating around in the tea

And I brew 100 gallons a week to keep up with my garden, and if you take a look at the link in my sig, they are loving life!

and do not be worried about cost here even with a fox farm productin the ingredients list. @ 100 gallons of nutes a week ive spent $150 in 7 weeks of flowering, which to me seems phenomenal for the best liquid fertiliser on the planet!

AND NEVER FORGET... your tea can be strained and diluted and used as a bitchin' foliar feed that out competes PM, rot, etc... Good organic preventative and fertilizer for foliar feed. I watched some PM disappear after 1st spray, and never return, and I have some humidity issues in my greenhouse.

This is not my recipe, but a recipe from one of the tea guys on here. But man is it the bee's knees
I do not like throwing the teabag away, so i either brew it with no teabag so its like top dressing when i pour the tea on, or if i use a teabag, i top dress with the leftover slop when I'm in need of a top dressing.

 

[BurnOne]

I call bull shit on those recipes, I know those are like gosel around here but that much ingredients per 5 gal of water and it would be BURN city.

I don't bull shit.
I used that recipe for years and never burned anything.
Burn1

 

[captinknots]

I don't bull shit.
I used that recipe for years and never burned anything.
Burn1

how big are your plants when you use a mix that strong? ? that seems like a lot but i guess its just 4 T per gallon.....