Time Doesn't Exist

[BrainSellz]

the word "time"

There it iz' Time iz merely just a word that we uze to put ourselves in to describe an event or something that we were or are going to be involved in' So the word time just seems to be a vessel used for us to describe a moment we lived in' therefore bringing me to tha conclusion that we are the TIME

 

[sailsinthesun]

...That means that as gravitational forces (which are actually being called into question lately as someone has published a paper attempting to describe gravity as a consequence of thermal dynamic properties rather than an actual force) increase, the rate of time according to you slows down....

(SP?)

Very interesting, I just googled it and found this pdf:
http://www.fqxi.org/data/documents/Parikh Azores Talks.pdf

 

[DiiZZii3]

I hear what you're saying. Can we measure volume and distance any more exactly though? I mean you can always add more decimal points, right? It's the paradox of how can the ball you threw at the wall ever get there if you can theoretically keep measuring in smaller units?

Yea mang u kinda got me thr, im contradictin myself. im lookin at that like if u wanna measure something (distance) ur able to start at 0... so 0, 1in, 2in. but with time there is no 0 to start at.. the 0 being the present, and to measure "time" being the distance into the future/past we have to have start at the "present", but no number can be applied to the present so therfor the concept of time somewhat falls apart.

 

[DankasaurusRex]

I agree that time is just a concept created by man. However, the passage of time is a very real thing in how people experience life. For all intents and purposes our perception IS our reality. Otherwise it wouldn't take so long to turn a seed into smokable bud. Try curing your buds without the passage of time.

 

[EdddieVHalen]

The sun raises and falls, the seasons change, but that is not time.
Time is a measurement that man has imposed on man to keep track of things.
Animals in civilization do synchronize with human time... They smell food we are eating so to them it is dinner time. We let them outside, so it is time to urinate. It is artificial.
Time was created by man to be used by man.

 

[sac beh]

The sun raises and falls, the seasons change, but that is not time.
Time is a measurement that man has imposed on man to keep track of things.
Animals in civilization do synchronize with human time... They smell food we are eating so to them it is dinner time. We let them outside, so it is time to urinate. It is artificial.
Time was created by man to be used by man.

No, you're thinking too much about specific units of time, e.g., 24-hour clock time, etc. The concept of time is this measurement of temporality we as well as animals experience and express. Temporality is perhaps a better word to use, so people don't carry along too much baggage with "time". But either way, temporality is essential to both our subjective and objective existence.

I'm not going to say temperature doesn't exist because Celsius and Fahrenheit are two man-made units of measuring it.

 

[dagnabit]

So i was watching the sci channel as i was blazed as fuck, and they were talking about the notion of time travel (im not sayin i belive in time travel tho). The shows content being very dumed down was still very hard to understand. Anyway the subject has really grabbed my interest an im gunna make an attemp to explain why time isn't real... only imagination.

Think of the present as in the "NOW" the time before the future occurs and after the past.... an exact moment in time.
Lemme put it like this if i clap my hands and the present is the exact time my hand collide. what is this exact moment? okay lets say my hands come together at 4:20, now lets get more exact, my hands came together at 4:20 and 30 seconds, now more exact 4:20 and 30.5 seconds, more exact 4:20 and 30.55 seconds now lets get real exact 4:20 and 30.554846446466474 seconds. It can go on forever, the time my hands came together (the present) can always become more and more exact, but will never be absolutly exact. Its like in math the # pie, 3.14 its an unending number and the end will never be found, like the way you can divide one second into a million parts, then one of those parts can be divided into another million parts and so on.
Therefore there is no present beacuse you can get infinantly closer to the present (as a time) but will never actually kno the exact time, beacuse you can be infinantly more exact.... so if theres no such thing as the present, then does the past or future exist???

I hope i made sense... but i prolly didnt... Einstein before his death dismissed his theroy of relativity, after discovering this.

If ur interested in what im tryin to get across, google "does time exist" and theres some good papers on the subject

peace

your talking about the law of diminishing fractions...

it works for anything..

how many times can i cut a watermelon in half before it no longer exists?
the answer is ∞

 

[GMT]

the arguement of needing a point 0 is ridiculous, its like someone stopping you on the street and asking how many miles it is to the next town and you replying, well I can't tell you that unless I know where you've come from. It's a crazy notion.
And time doesnt speed up when you take drugs or slow down, if it did, you'd be able to dodge bullets like in the matrix film, again a crazy notion. Yes time is relative to the individual object, but thats different from saying it doesnt exist. So little understanding amazes me. And time travel backwards is not possible, not under any circumstances.

 

[DiiZZii3]

GMT, Einstein would disagree with you

As for ur argument about miles to the next town... if u dont kno EXACTLY where you are on the road (the present) Then u absolutly dont know EXACTLY how many miles it is to the next town. Haha and miles dont exist anyway beacuse there measured in hours and hours dont exist lol.

None of these ideas im putting out here are my own, im just repeating what i've been told. When im asked the question "does time exist?" im gunna reply I dont fuckin kno. cuz thats the truth you and i will nvr actually kno. Its just something to analyze when ur high. "does time exist?" there is no right or wrong answer.... as far as im concerned ur just as correct as i am, so props man

 

[GMT]

lmao, no einstein would not disagree with me. But if he did it would only add more evidence to the fact that he was a fake and a moron anyway.

not knowing the precise distance to the next town to the micrometer does not mean that you are there already, therefore there is distance between you and the next town. Not being able to give that exact measurement doesn't prevent distance from existing.

Who told you these things? were you taught science in a faith school by any chance?

 

[BrainSellz]

And time doesnt speed up when you take drugs or slow down, if it did, you'd be able to dodge bullets like in the matrix film,

Actually in another scents we can slow time down so we dont get hit by a bullet or perhaps a car or something gravity related'
Theory iz that say you stopped to tie a shoe or get keys or just something that caused your path in a day to vear off a lil and something that waz gunna hit you that day doesnt becaus you either missed your ride due to something slowing your time down or something of that scents in other words something puts you two steps out of tha way because it either sped your time up or slowed you down to put you in that very moment'

Here eye am back to tha conclusion we are tha TIME since we do slow down and speed up whether on drugs or not'

When we walk fast we get there quicker' when we walk slow we get there later therefore controlling tha time'

 

[DiiZZii3]

Man im gunna concede defeat on this YOUR RIGHT. Anything can be didvide and divided, but it doesnt mean it isnt real. I still belive that the def. of time is very flawed in science, einsteins theory of relativity was based on 3 dimensions of space, but in his later years he said there is actually 4 dimensions and dismissed his theory. I geuss mabey im tryin to argue that time isnt exact and ongoing, but can actually can vary greatly by the speed your traveling. Im kinda just ranting and really contradicting myself in my posts. but with my limited ability to express my thoughts of things im having a real tough time conveyin my thoughts into words. But as someone else said evrything we percieve is a physical force.. such as gravity or the suns heat can be felt. but time cannot be felt time doesnt move the hands on a clock. the clock is man made invention used to measure something that isn't actually physical or real only percieved in our minds. its just somethin to ponder.

And no i didnt go to religious school. I actually dont believe the notion that any "god" exists this as well is a man made "theory", im athiest... i believe that science is btr than religion and sci always will trump religion

 

[GMT]

you havent got a clue what youre talking about, your examples are not of time slowing or speeding, but of you altering your position relative to other objects. Its true that relative time can be altered by adjusting the speed of 2 bodies, but time passes at exactly the same rate for each body, its only the relative passage of time that differs.

 

[GMT]

congrats diiz, gonna recommend a superb book for you to grab, its called hyperspace by miko hakku though my spelling of his name will be well off, ask for it at the counter and they'll grab it for you lol.

 

[EdddieVHalen]

No

Man invented the word time

Man invented Calender

Man invented clocks

Man writes down things and how they relate to time

Without man there is no time. Period.

 

[GMT]

if time didnt exist without man, then how did the time from when dinosours existed pass and the time they didnt come to be?

 

[SpellingEror]

Time is a concept inside of the human brain. Therefore as your perception of time changes, that is reality for you. It can be measured outside of the human brain, like say with a clock, but really that clock is operating relative to the gravitational forces enacting upon the clock. Just like your perception of time is operating based on the external forces enacting upon you. Also the force of gravity varies relative to the distance between you and the next biggest gravitational force.


Sp?

 

[DiiZZii3]

I geuss to sum up exactly what it is about time thats got me really confused is that as human we percieve that there is a past, present, and then future.. would you agree with that?

But the present must be an EXACT time the present can't be 1-2 seconds it hasta be an exact time "Zero'd out"... the time before the future and after the past. But if we cant pinpoint an exact unit of time to describe the present then is there a past and is there a future?

 

[Sandnut]

time is money, it sure exists for me
but i get your point, this type of thinking gives me a headache lol

 

[MarquisBlack]

Time exists exactly BECAUSE you can't completely quantify it. According to quantum physics, if a state has a definite position, and a definite momentum at the same time, it does not exist. This is sort of akin to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.

I find metaphysical nihilism to be.... Self defeating?