mixing weed same as breeding strain?

[offthehook]

I saw someone mentioning that he easely mixes different types of weed together in his bowl to smoke in order to get a progeny test of his disired prospective strain.

Now I wonder if this is realy true or just a myth?

Anyone around here with some objective experience on that?

 

[JackTheGrower]

I saw someone mentioning that he easely mixes different types of weed together in his bowl to smoke in order to get a progeny test of his disired prospective strain.

Now I wonder if this is realy true or just a myth?

Anyone around here with some objective experience on that?

I found that it can have a mixed effect and surly that can be enlightening.

However, breeding is more complex than mixing bowls which i am totality in favor of. A mixture can be more medical than a single plant even if it is of several plants of the same grow or even buds from the same plant.

I would assume a general idea of a cross would be possible.. i certainly don't disrespect the task.

It's a clue for sure.

 

[Khao]

Not trying to be rude at all.. nor am I claiming to have any advanced understanding of genetics or breeding. But I think its safe to call "bullshit" on this one. In highschool we learn of dominant and recessive genes, and there are so many variables to consider.... simply mixing strains into a bowl has no scientific base.

For example: A DC crossed with a sativa dom hybrid could still produce almost identical flowers to the DC.

 

[offthehook]

I know what you mean Khao, but for now I wanna forget about all the science at once.

It's only everyone's personal experience that counts for me right now.

One only needs to compare the both "parental strains"50/50 mixed in a bowl to their offspring and give an opinion.

That's all I'm after realy.

Thank you.

(when I once crossed the lowryder#2 to some heavy narcotic like indica, no any of the smoking features of the lowryder remained. As a matter of fact, there was no any noticeble difference between the mother indica and her offspring.
Several generations afterwards, the indica trait still remained dominant.
Unfortunatly I never tried a mix from it and never safed any stash of it to test for it myself.
In order to get some more objective opinion about it I'm just looking out for more of y'all experiences on this.)

 

[emerald city]

ahhhh.....no

 

[THE PABLOS]

I enjoy making blends....mostly I do it....to get an idea of what the head of two blended lines can produce together. Generally....crosses come out tasting like one of the two parental plants( same with structure etc..).....the head seems a little bit more difficult to define. Smoking a blend of two lines I'm planning to cross....is fun....doesn't hurt anything...if anything...it can show how compatible the two lines may be. Fun is most important.

But then again...I don't find genetics all that complicated....like makes like....in almost all cases. I have no interest...nor see no reason...to make it more complicated than that. Grow enough plants.....select the ones that fit your concept...not difficult.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

It's not in the same ballpark... it's not the same league... it's not even the same sport!

 

[Lapides]

My teachers growing up told me there are no stupid questions.

They were wrong.

 

[shawkmon]

water with grape cool aid to make the plants taste purple, that shit works

 

[offthehook]

Thanks guys.

But parhaps I should have formulated the beginning of this post somewhat more specific. Sorry.

I was more looking forward to see responses comming in that would go like this:

I smoked X and Y in a mix and the effect resulted in

a > intermediar effect,
b > X dominating effect
c > Y dominating effect
d > no comparable effect to X and Y

Now I bred X and Y together and the effect was: a,b,c or d (see above.)

Negative responses from all who think they are "the shit" on genetics I realy would like to see posting elsewhere.

Thanks in advance.

 

[foomar]

The Blackberry cross from Wally and the Geisha cross from Head both exhibit a distinct and unique flavour profile and very different highs.

Mixing the two together is indistinguishable from a minor 5% expression in the cross , this is the keeper type and exactly what i was looking for , a perfect blend of the two lines in every respect.

Almost every other predicted combination is also present , most are dominated by one parental trait , some mutually exclusive and missing.

Run 250+ of such a cross and results are supriseing , first example of this expression was number 57 , baseing anything on small runs is pointless.

 

[straintester]

It's not in the same ballpark... it's not the same league... it's not even the same sport!

So true!

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Its getting bad when a person cant come here and ask a question without being made fun of.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

My teachers growing up told me there are no stupid questions.

They were wrong.

“There is no stupid question! Except, possibly, a question not asked.”

 

[offthehook]

Thanks Foomar for your brief and terrific layout.

Your kind of report give me a first hand visual and workeble insight on "genetics put to practise"

So much more enriching as some "genetical assumption" doomed useless.

@phedrosbenny, Yeh its annoying, Like they know something more that I did not know already.
If they only could see the value a different aproach could have so everyone can get to their own conclusions instead of "it's like this and everyone should study the same as I did and then we're all the same smart.

Often times I ve got to go deep down in my memories to remember how certain crosses worked out in order to get some conclusions out of it.
Now we' ve got a data base of multiple people doing their thing and are able to share this data amongst others enabling to enlarge this base with all of the single experiences we once had ourselves.
Would be stupid to not put this data to use but only rely on some genetical formula's so everyone would be fending for themselves, learning from their own discoveries time after time again.
I reckon there is some kinda ego shit going on with some of them, of wich some guys most definatly need to get rid of imo.
Nothing wrong with a good laugh tho, but this says more about their own inabilities as that it does about me.
Bad might be that others could become discouraged in posting their results in awe of beeing ridiculed, hence ruining or prematurely finnishing this thread.

@Gra3fulh3ad, Donno about that man but thanks for support

@Straintester, Ignore.

 

[offthehook]

Thanks Foomar for your brief and terrific layout.

Your kind of report give me a first hand visual and workeble insight on "genetics put to practise"

So much more enriching as some "genetical assumption" doomed useless.

@phedrosbenny, Yeh its annoying, Like they know something more that I did not know already.
If they only could see the value a different aproach could have so everyone can get to their own conclusions instead of "it's like this and everyone should study the same as I did and then we're all the same smart.

Often times I ve got to go deep down in my memories to remember how certain crosses worked out in order to get some conclusions out of it.
Now we' ve got a data base of multiple people doing their thing and are able to share this data amongst others enabling to enlarge this base with all of the single experiences we once had ourselves.
Would be stupid to not put this data to use but only rely on some genetical formula's
so everyone would be fending for themselves, learning from their own discoveries time after time again.
I reckon there is some kinda ego shit going on with some of them, of wich some guys most definatly need to get rid of imo.
Nothing wrong with a good laugh tho, but this says more about their own inabilities as that it does about me.
Bad might be that others could become discouraged in posting their results in awe of beeing ridiculed, hence ruining or prematurely finnishing this thread.

@Gra3fulh3ad, Donno about that man but thanks for support

@Straintester, Ignore.

 

[offthehook]

quote ThePablos: I enjoy making blends....mostly I do it....to get an idea of what the head of two blended lines can produce together. Generally....crosses come out tasting like one of the two parental plants( same with structure etc..).....the head seems a little bit more difficult to define. Smoking a blend of two lines I'm planning to cross....is fun....doesn't hurt anything...if anything...it can show how compatible the two lines may be. Fun is most important.

But then again...I don't find genetics all that complicated....like makes like....in almost all cases. I have no interest...nor see no reason...to make it more complicated than that. Grow enough plants.....select the ones that fit your concept...not difficult.

Thanks ThePablos, this was a usefull post too.
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[hawaiiOG]

it was an interesting post that is for sure I do love a nice blend like smoke Sativa mixed with sweet indica and then add hash oh ya bruddahs,The other prat of the post dam niggas what weed college did you all go to, I like go lol no good shit bra's

 

[DocLeaf]

I saw someone mentioning that he easely mixes different types of weed together in his bowl to smoke in order to get a progeny test of his disired prospective strain.

Now I wonder if this is really true or just a myth?

Anyone around here with some objective experience on that?

Yeah . it can be a helpful test..

The first time I n I ever smoked Spicy Cheese [So7omon Seeds],, we smoked a spliff of the parent siblings in a cocktail joint first,, (BBCheese and Spicy Cheese) a few weeks before. The resulting cross by So7omon was the perfect marriage,, and gave a taste much similar to the mixed joint...

... it's only a myth if you didn't do it! otherwise it's reality

Perception wise however things were/are different,, since the combination of cannabinoids depends on 100s of variables... perhaps 1000s between one joint and the next (check 'phenotype' on woogle)!


Hope this helps

 

[offthehook]

Sure helps Docleaf, Thanks for input.

Great post hawaiiOG, not too far off from what I was thinking

These post were workable too:


1.Quote gratefullhead : The answer is, yes it might sometimes hold clues about how some aspects of the cross might come out, but it will never be a reliable and accurate method for determining the outcome of a cross.


2.quote foomar:

The Blackberry cross from Wally and the Geisha cross from Head both exhibit a distinct and unique flavour profile and very different highs.

Mixing the two together is indistinguishable from a minor 5% expression in the cross , this is the keeper type and exactly what i was looking for , a perfect blend of the two lines in every respect.

Almost every other predicted combination is also present , most are dominated by one parental trait , some mutually exclusive and missing.

Run 250+ of such a cross and results are supriseing , first example of this expression was number 57 , baseing anything on small runs is pointless.


Now, if there would apear more results like the one foomar posted that would be of great help to understand modern days genetical heritage and make up.

With foomars post I am able to compare some of his experiences to mines, if there were more like that there would be more to compare to.

With not beeing able to put "dry science" to use I mean the theoretical layout of how genes interact and not beeing able to test these effects for myself

I can put All "dry science" in my head and think its all true and dandy but as long as noone haven't got high from it and was willing to share it with me I wont be able to compare it to anything

All others; Thanks for input.