seeds....the 5% club.

[dragunn]

over the past few years i popped over 100 packs of seeds.you might find a nice keeper in a pack if your lucky.but if im paying a 100 a pack, i want all keepers.

high germination rate(90% +).

good structure.

good yield.

very stable.

of the seeds i popped,only these meet the list.

sensi star(paridise).plus...clone like,every plant was good,easy to trim.frosty.minus...all way sold out.

blue sonja.very similar in stucture to sweet tooth #3.very frosty,good yield.minus...hard to find.

bubblegum(serious seeds).high germ rate,good stucture.minus...a little more work to trim.

godberry(mists of destuction)the surprise of the bunch.plus the cheapest(30.00 for a pack of 10).nice yield,people love it.minus...hard to find.

ak-47(serious seeds)found 3 different phenoms,all nice though.

so what else is out there?

 

[DocLeaf]

Whats the 5% about? i n i confused already.

W.Widow x Free Tibet [So7omon Seeds] ,, BubbleDust [GrowDoc Seeds] ,, most of the stuff from Shantibaba,, regular seed breeders

otherwise for feminized seeds check Greenhouse,, Sagarmatha,, Gerrit/Magus (Warlock),, BigBadBuddha were all ok. above average.

otherwise JackHerer [Sensi Seeds] if you got the pennies and plan to clone,, if not Haze #19xSkunk [Nirvana] if you got the room and wanna grow cheap from seed,, leave em 90days all's rosy with an orange tint to it.. lol what you want a map? ..lol

Seriously check out the forums,, see what gets good and less good feedback,, and make a selection on whats growing well NOW,, not yester-year.. IMO.

Hope this helps
DL

p.s the butterfly below might help

 

[roach]

i think what he means is that out a pack of seeds of most strains only 5% are keepers, and what he wants is strains where every plant (or close to) is a keeper

i have been thinking the same thing, for the last 5-6 years i have grown my own strains and although there is still some variation in some of them i would say that ~90% is keepers, now the last couple of grows i have grown strains bought from different seed companies because i wanted some new "flavours" in my growroom, but for the most part i only find 1 or 2 keepers in a pack of seeds, in some i didnt find any.

I know its easy to clone a plant, but i dont plants seeds only to find a mother, i also want quality weed from the grow to last me untill next harvest, so a list of strains where you want to keep all females from a pack of seeds as mothers would be nice, but i guess if you only smoked crappy brick weed all your life and then smoke some midgrade skunk you would say its the best weed you ever tried, but if your used to smoking top class skunk it takes alot more to impress you, so i guess a list like that is hard to make

 

[roach]

i kept on thinking about this, and after reading the other thread about keepers i realized that there will always be a plant out of a seedpack that is better than the others, and ofcourse thats the one you keep, so all cant be keepers, but i often find that the best plant isnt good enough for me to want to run it again, or there is a big difference between the worst and the best plant out of a seedpack, so a little more consistency would be nice, if you put it on a scale from 1-10 i only want plants from 8-10 in my seedpack and not all the way from 2 or 3 and upwards, if that makes any sense

 

[dragunn]

well 5% is 5 packs outta a hundred packs.i can get all the elite clones i want.but outdoors i prefer seeds(i pre sex them indoors).if im investing 50.00+ in soil and fertilizer per plant and 20.00 on a female plant.plus 20+hours of my time.i want all killer plants.why waste time and money on junk.

 

[biteme]

you buy seed because that is the only place you will ever find the magic you are looking for and further, imo the price paid per pack has very little to do with finding her. i have had high hopes for strains that cost more than $200 a pack and nothing germed and btw, that is strains plural. keep looking. that's what it's about especially considering outdoor for your climate. and hell, i can tell you're still a young fella if you've only been through 100 packs. peace-biteme

 

[kaneboy]

moscra negra cinderella99 bx is one that is a keeper ,chem dd is another,also killerchem and sensi super skunk i have had so many that would be keepers but i like variety and love what mynext grow will bring?

 

[TheHashAssassin]

From personal exp, I would have to suggest:

NL#5 - grow out at least 15 or so different fems and you should find one that will blast you for about 4-5 hrs from one joint. The rest willl still be good tho.

Orig. Love Potion release - Every girl I had was a keeper.

Sugarwarp - Same at the LP, all the girls were keepers. Had more sickly sweet smell then the Timewarp mom, but way more intense high too. (Dont know if you can still get these)

 

[subrob]

i must just have the best luck in the world when it comes to seeds...only two times have i ever been disappointed...ironically enough, two packs of dj short blueberry and sensi nl5 x haze...two that i had higher hopes for than normal!
...if outdoor look at HTC skunk...i know it dont have a fancy name...but when i was growing it, everyone loved it...everyone. and it was side by side w all the clones i was runnin at the time.(chemd, ecsd, sourdub, etc...) though its the only htc strain i have grown, if you go thru thier forum, you wont find much negative at all bout any of thier strains...and ya, every plant i popped woulda been a keeper...rare...gotta love stable strains!

 

[dragunn]

outdoors i just grow from seed.i feel im getting 20% higher yield from seed grows.also better structure and a tougher plant.thats why im trying to hunt down just good,stable seeds.usally there from a breeder whos been refining his strains for years.

i think its rare to get 5 keeper females from 10 seeds.

 

[drewb149]

ive heard alot of really good things about kc brains strains for outdoor. use a scuff box to scratch the seeds as they have a thicker shell due to being bred specifically for the great outdoors. check out the brains escape, kc39, and leda uno. and a ten pack is 17 bucks. cant go wrong there.

 

[funkervogt]

Im having a "keeper problem" right now with my Mosca BX C99 and Dutchgrown Witches Weed. Many grows later and I'm still deliberating.

I used to buy cheaper seeds and not have any keepers, but now I can't decide which ones to get rid of...

I meet a lot of growers who grow out all of the releases, but still disappointed by the lack of holy grail-ish phenos. I've then seen many of those same people go on to grow out those 16-week sativa phenos and heirloom indica's and never turn back. I've also known people to drive 3 days across the country to pick up clones from a med state, then turn around and drive 3 days back to the east coast. Devotion.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

I agree with the sensi star. Grown it for years and she's a winner in all respects.

 

[jm420]

Whats the 5% about? i n i confused already.

W.Widow x Free Tibet [So7omon Seeds] ,, BubbleDust [GrowDoc Seeds] ,, most of the stuff from Shantibaba,, regular seed breeders

otherwise for feminized seeds check Greenhouse,, Sagarmatha,, Gerrit/Magus (Warlock),, BigBadBuddha ,, and Royal Queen Seeds were all ok. above average.

otherwise JackHerer [Sensi Seeds] if you got the pennies and plan to clone,, if not Haze #19xSkunk [Nirvana] if you got the room and wanna grow cheap from seed,, leave em 90days all's rosy with an orange tint to it.. lol what you want a map? ..lol

Seriously check out the forums,, see what gets good and less good feedback,, and make a selection on whats growing well NOW,, not yester-year.. IMO.

Hope this helps
DL

p.s the butterfly below might help

I dont know about sag

 

[Snagglepuss]

you should never expect keepers out of a 10 pack IMO,if it happens i consider myself lucky.Every strain i buy and end up liking ,i make seeds.99% of the time i make seeds even with runts and subpar plants with sometimes no selection (like whatever is left).
I end up finding something worthwhile in the next run..Thats just my experience...Its a numbers game..

 

[habeeb]

I think wanting all is selfish..

shouldn't the only thing on a want list is, quality of high?

but I come from the DJ camp, where which ever way you want to slice DJ's negative's, his resin is top quality, and sure his plants are funky, bitches, and low yield, slow growing..

But who wants crap when you've been exposed to top..

 

[optimal]

dinafem powerkush is a nice plant, pretty powerful as well. always had good germination with them

 

[mithra]

you should never expect keepers out of a 10 pack IMO,if it happens i consider myself lucky.Every strain i buy and end up liking ,i make seeds.99% of the time i make seeds even with runts and subpar plants with sometimes no selection (like whatever is left).
I end up finding something worthwhile in the next run..Thats just my experience...Its a numbers game..

yep, this is what i do too. Make a few hundred seeds and go from there.

 

[guerilllataktic]

chimera GF X BB = bad ass

 

[roach]

chimera GF X BB = bad ass

and thats why its impossible to make a list of "all seeds you grow of this strain will be keepers" list, i grew GFxBB too, and wasnt realy that impressed, we all have different tastes, some like coffe others tea