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asdmo

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So i picked up a couple clones from the dispensary 48 hours ago. 2x ****** WhiteFire, 1x blue dream, 1x giesel, 1x Hp13xOregan. Right when i got them home i transplanted them into 70/30 fflw/ffof
with 35%pearlite & 35% ewc. I didnt have any b1 or superthrive so i just used unchlorinated water.... stupid me, the ph was 7.0. I checked them yesterday the bluedreams leaves started clawing upwards and some of the leaves were drying out and the other plants leaves were downwards. The giesel has spots on there with the leaves kind of burning on the edges...
damn i fucked up... just started organics... i really need the most help i could to start this grow. thanks guys. I will try to upload some pictures later gotta cook right now for the fam. Thanks once again guys!
 

Albertine

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One watering with a ph of 7 shouldn't have affected anything much. From one newbie to another it is really easy to panic at every microdevelopment cause we don't know what's normal. If the tips of older leaves look like they have been freezedried, dried but still green, then your soil may be too hot for them. Leaves will look a little like upside down canoes right after you water them, or if they are soggy too long. Did you pot the clones into a large pot, over 1 gallon? Then they may be complaining from having soggy soil. Chances are really good that they will grow out of what they are doing right now.
If their discoloration involves any yellowing with dry reddish dead patches of the lower leaves, then you might be seeing deficiencies still showing up from before transplanting.
Potting up usually takes them out of any problems after a couple days. Just don't freak out and do things in a panic.
 

jaykush

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K.I.S.S!!!! = KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

( not calling you stupid that's just how the saying goes)

over complicating things only makes things worse. smoke a bowl, relax, and let the plants grow. if they look like they need a boost, make a wormcastings slurry.
 

guest2012y

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7.0.......That's neutral.........A proper organic soil handles this extremely well. I'm hitting my soil with some teas that are around 4.0 and some that are up around 9.0. I have absolutely no issues at all with ph problems. Praise to the compost!!!
 

asdmo

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haha you guys are the best. I will always remember KISS from todays experience... thanks for the info about the 7ph water i was really freaking out over that... Hopefully after a couple of days the plants get back to normal. I will try to upload photos and start a grow diary so you experienced people could help me out :laughing:
 

Fat J

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I always had great luck with soil after I learned not to water till the container feels much lighter - really easy 2 overwater dirt. 7.0 is good... its not distilled, right?
 

JAB

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I go to the grocery store and fill up a 3 gal jug at a purified water station. The water gets put through several types of filtration; r/o included. The pH is always right around 6 too. It may be worth it for you to check out. Its pretty cheap especially since you only have a handful of clones 33 cents a gal here.
 

bendoslendo

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Hey man, did they go under an HID light? Often new clones put directly under HID's will burn up a bit sometimes no growth for up to a week until they get used to the light.

What is your light and how far is it from the girls?
 

Phillthy

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were they rooted cuts or just cuts? i wouldnt place anything into ffof without decent roots first.
 

quadracer

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Hey man, did they go under an HID light? Often new clones put directly under HID's will burn up a bit sometimes no growth for up to a week until they get used to the light.

What is your light and how far is it from the girls?

These were also my questions...
 

asdmo

Member
Hey guys thanks for your concerns.

@JAB: Thank you i will definitely try that out

@bendoslendo: They are under 4' 4bulb t5 about 3-4 inches away.

@Phillthy: yes they had alright root systems except one of them which i had to revive.

Its been 8 days since i gotten the clones and transplanted and now things seems to be going a little better. All the plants have new leaves growing out but they do seem to be a little yellow and leaves are kind of dry. I fed them 6.5ph water about every 2 days or so. Any suggestions???
 

asdmo

Member
I posted this up on the infirmary section but not many posts so let me give it a try here.

How long has this problem been going on? about 3 days
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) Im growing in Secret Jardin dr150
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) hand water
What STRAIN are you growing? Bluedream, Whitefire, Giesel, Hp13xPineappleOregan
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) clone
What is the age of your plants? about 2 weeks?
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) about 3 days
How tall are the plants? 6-8 inches
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? veg
What Technique are you using? Organic Soil
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) ffof/fflw, pearlite, ewc, dolomite lime
What is the Water temperature? im not sure thermometer is on the way, its not extremely hot its about 78 in there.
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? they were white, i checked 2 of them and some turned brown
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless) 7.0 ph water, super thrive
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? not too much just till the bottom of the cup is wet
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) i fed them first day till the cup was full, 2 days later i fed them couple tbps of water
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) every watering
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 7.0
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment? yes
When was your last watering? 30 minutes ago
What is your water temps? room temp
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using? t5
How old is the bulbs you are using? 3months
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
What is the canopy temperature? high 70's
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 80day-70night
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? directly
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? unchlorinated tap
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinche
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? no
Are plant's infected with pest's: NO



Hey guys I picked up my clones from the clinic 3 days ago and its not looking good so far... I've picked up (2x ras kals [the white x fire og]) (1x blue dream) (1x giesel) (1x [Hp13 x Pineapple Oregon] ) (1x unlabled clone).

I mixed up 70/30 ffLW/ffOF w/ 35% pearl lite, 35% ewc and some dolomite lime. Right once i got home i transplanted them into the soil and fed them 7.0 ph water.

24 hours later i see that the leaves on my blue dream started to curl upwards and burned, so i pulled it gently and potted it in all pearl lite. Same goes for the 1x white fire...
the giesel had some spots and the other plant leaves started to turn yellow nd kind of burn

48 hours later i bought superthrive and mixed 1tbps/ 1gal and watered a little amount over the plants.

72 hours later i checked the plants and they seem to be turning a little worse. here are some pictures.

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Blue dreams leaves were clawing downwards and drying out
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Hp13xOreganPineapple this one has yellowing leaves
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WhiteFire1 Its very droopy with tips yellowing/burned, and spots
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WhiteFire2 Droopy with yellowing and spots
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Unknown strain Its very droopy with tips yellowing/burned, and spots
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This Giesel has alot of spots on it with some yellow tips

Thank you all for all you help, may this grow get better. Thanks once again!
 

Fat J

Member
Also, I'd back the light off to 6" or so and the ones that look like they're in all perlite are not gettin enuff water.
 
Holy Shit somebody sold that to you without them being in red cups??
WTF?

All ya gotta do is transplant into roots organic soil and water every couple of days... back the light off too they are just ittty bitty clones.
 

asdmo

Member
Alright thanks for all your replys guys. The white fires doesnt look so good. I checked the one i put in pearlite and it seems like the roots barely grew....
The giesel is looking beautiful, it is responding best to the soil its in. But it shows light yellow on the top leaves from (Inner-out).
The Hpx13 is looking way better now. I trimmed off the dead yellow leaves and the new leaves look really good dark green.
The unknown strain i got seems to be reviving really good too. New shoots are coming out but i might need to transfer into new soil.
The blue dream in the pearl lite roots look fucking amazing! but i dont know what to use to transplant because i have 2 mixes of soil.

1st batch soil
-5gal ffof
-5gal fflw
-3gal pearl lite
-3gal ewc
-22tbps dolomite

2nd batch soil
-5gal ffof
-5gal fflw
-2gal ewc
(i didnt finish mixing this batch)

What should i do??? What do i transfer these babies into? Or what should i add into the soil to make it better for my babies.
 

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