Cannabis Workers Unionize

[kaotic]

Lola I've always enjoyed your posts so it pains me to say this to you. In the US we have something called opportunity, or at least used to. There is no caste system that says you must remain poor. Every person is free to make as much money as you want or don't want. Who told your father to work at the coal mine instead of owning a coal mine, or any multitude of businesses. If there's no work you go where the money is. There is always a market for something somewhere, you just have to find it. There is always a commodity. Sounds to me like your father took the easy way of having somebody else provide him with work instead of generating work for himself and others. And when I say easy I don't mean he did not work hard, just not smart. Sorry.

 

[SeniorBuzz]

I should amend that last post:

The reason I use the word "spokes-model" is because, while I don't believe she is instrumental in crafting tea party doctrine or opinion, they do use her to attract a certain demographic to their cause...

I don't think I could work with anybody who is interested in swelling their ranks with the demographic that love em some Sarah Palin.

sarah palin... gag me with a beauty queen.. " I can see Russia from my house."

Sarah Palin is doing a lot of good; she doesn't hesitate to rail against the establishment, and along with 4, or 5, other political women, she is having a profound effect on politics.

Sharron Angle is backed by Sarah Palin, and the Tea Party.

Don't underestimate the Tea Party; they basically want the same things as you do.

 

[komrade komura]

Any group that protests the government naturally has my sympathies.
Regrettably the Tea Party has tested these limits due to lack of substance and too many tin-foil hat ideas.

I see the same fevered look in them as I see in Marxists...almost religious zealotry. So I will agree with them where our path converges (civil liberites)...but on almost everything else...I ain't buying.

Birthers, Drill Baby Drill, Bring Arms to Rallies, Overt Racism...sorry, I mean 'stricter immigration laws'...and on and on.

Too many white people together in one place makes me nervous...and I am one.

We are on the wrong side of a demographic trend...just hope I live long enough to see my group become a minority in our stolen lands.

Karmic balance being restored...hahaha.

 

[komrade komura]

Sarah Palin: the best pro-choice argument I have seen in years. See whatcha get?

 

[SeniorBuzz]

Just in case you are interested, Sarah Palin is visiting with Margaret Thatcher today

 

[komrade komura]

The Scottish are all waiting to attend Maggie Thatcher's funeral....and they don't care if she is dead or not.

 

[gnosticann]

As many recognize is better:

Worker owned. Distributed ownership in accordance with contributions.

Syndicalism. Solidarity.

Demand it.

 

[JackTheGrower]

The Ruse is in the USA that Oakland can gain favor with our legislative representatives to oppose Federal laws on the limits of growing "Marijuana" and the Federal penalties imposed.

Given the framework of TaxCannabis2010 there will be an analogies to the end of alcohol prohibition in that there will be Wet counties and Dry counties.

So the "push" towards Unionization is really a political ass kissing in the hopes that there will be an ability to form a monopoly of Cannabis production in the Bay area.

Never Mind that Cannabis is like grapes.. That the region it is grown in effects the quality of the produce..

So up the ass of Oakland!

What Tax2010 really does is show us how Democracy is not an American Ideal anymore. So Viva the Home Grown and the undermining the Tax2010 Market aspirations.


Lee had one smart moment; that the concept incorporated in what we people who provide regional Cannabis have known and will still be able to do is undermine the established price of any distribution even to the level of poverty.. Without large production privileges Lee's group and the ilk will have to sell to people who don't have jobs since Tax2010 specifically states Workers have no rights to jobs if they consume cannabis..

Way to Go Richard ..

So from my POV "Cannabis Workers Unionize " is just a ruse and I doubt it fools anyone..

Ernst

 

[JackTheGrower]

Just in case you are interested, Sarah Palin is visiting with Margaret Thatcher today

She came and spoke in Turlock last week.. I live here in Turlock.

I think many Middle class women here masturbated that night.

Many middle class men drank beer that night and all were happy.

BTW they had enough money to pay Palen but not enough money to support the 4th of July Celebration we usually have.

get a clue you all!

 

[Custy Noob]

it blows my mind that people think marijuana industry will benefit from the type of bad business models that have undermined traditional businesses

does any body have a clue what unions do and at what cost?

mechanisms like unions and taxes tap into a revenue stream and take from it

they are not adding as much benefit to the market as they do burden it with cost

the benefit for a union is to add value to LOW VALUE work force

if you want to keep on reducing the value of pot labor and subsequently value to the average joe lets keep doing everything in the pot industry that helped destroy other industries

Unions would be appropriate perhaps if RJ renolyds was the only grower out there.

If growers left the legal world to grow pot why is everyone so quick to go back to its ways?

the marijuana industry needs new fresh relative mechanisms to keep it the dynamic progressive industry that saved america before it was legalized,cause it did, taking money from it to hand out to the government and lazy workers sucks

 

[Bongstar420]

Unions exist because managers take too much. This is true of any tax system as well. As long as managers and oweners take too much and keep the general population from it rightful prosperity, we will have unions and tax systems. Anyone who whines about taxes and unions or pay disparities between government and private workers is ignoring the fact that managers and owners are taking too much. Owners specifically do not deserve anything. Managers do deserve more then the rest of the herd, but not 10,000% or even. Poverty and all related inequalities are manufacture states that exist due to managers and owners taking more then their fair share. In fact, the only reason anyone should be taking more is because they will do more with what they take, and that does not include playtime. No one deserves any more playtime then anyone else. What ever I take, I must make the same stake available to anyone else for me to be in a morally justifiable position. And, so we must grow perpetually throughout space and time.

 

[trichomefarmer]

"Passing rules about the behavior of others on their own land is immoral. America is immoral, spending way beyond its means, and will steal from the world to pay for its deficits. Advocating any expansion of US Government power is tantamount to enslaving babies. How could any parent look at their children and say you owe $60K to the national debt and 50% of your annual labor for the rest of your life to the state, happy birthday: We love you long time."

bang on. a vicious cycle I'm not adding to.

 

[Snowberry]

Union bashing 101.....Yep, blame the workers, it's all their fault for believing political decision makers who were bought off by their wealthy friends....the haves and have mores.

Here we go, lets finish the deregulation of financial markets....cry foul and put taxpayers on the hook and bail out the Wall Street Banker crowd....kinda like leaving the fox in charge of hen house security while he hires his brother in law the coyote for night shift duty and his pal the skunk for cleanup detail isn't it?

Do we truly have a free market- free enterprise system here in North America, or is it more like some enterprises are more equal than others? Can anyone follow the decent job they used to have overseas or is Free-Trade global economics all about the freedom of capital's mobility only?

Just wait until China calls in the overdue loans to U.S. Federal Reserve......Nie Hau'

Free the Weed, Legalize, Regulate and Tax Cannabis in all its myriad uses...after all Tomatoes are.

Maybe we can keep our youth/troops home guarding Home instead of oil/gas pipelines and Opium production centers overseas.

Just take a good look at which corporations lobbied Feds in 30s when Cannabis prohibition was founded....Big Oil didn't like Henry Ford's better idea of his hemp car did they? Bio diesel tin lizzies anyone.

Looks to me some here can suck and blow simultaneously.

 

[CrumpleZone]

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Right... Let's talk about unionizing before theres even a viable business community.
A good parasite never KILLS it's host.

This discussion is wayyy premature.

 

[Hydrosun]

Free the Weed, Legalize, Regulate and Tax Cannabis in all its myriad uses...after all Tomatoes are.

Are you smoking tomatoes? I don't know a single state in the union that taxes tomatoes. Also home production of tomatoes is NOT regulated.

Who in the world thinks it is a good idea to hire more fucking government workers to regulate MJ or tomatoes? Oh yeah don't answer that, Government Employee Unions think this is a great idea.

 

[resinryder]

She came and spoke in Turlock last week.. I live here in Turlock.

I think many Middle class women here masturbated that night.

Many middle class men drank beer that night and all were happy.

BTW they had enough money to pay Palen but not enough money to support the 4th of July Celebration we usually have.

get a clue you all!

Dang Jack. You could substitute the name Palin with the name Obama and make the same exact point.
Both cause the same amount of jerk and goo wherever they go depending on which way the audience leans.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Dang Jack. You could substitute the name Palin with the name Obama and make the same exact point.
Both cause the same amount of jerk and goo wherever they go depending on which way the audience leans.

We have hate of the homeless and then spend too much for someone to speak.

Not only did our University pay our Town paid too with police costs.

 

[HomerSimpson]

There is NO PLACE in AMERICA's future for Economic Libertarianism if our country is to survive the likes of the Gulf Oil Spill and Drill baby Drill. We are now suffering the consequences of Reaganism & Bushism's promotion of laisse-faire capitalism. And the entire world is suffering as a result.

But let's get back on topic as we don't allow political discussion beyond cannabis.

How can you not lump Clinton in that mess as well? It has been a case of Here is the new boss, same as the old boss, for quite a few cycles in this country. Trying to blame it all on one political party only furthers the agenda of the government as a whole.

Unions. One hundred years ago when owners chained shut doors, forced workers to more than 20 hours a day without vacation. They were needed. Today. Pretty sure have some extreme labor laws that just wont allow for these things to happen. People used to die while striking for a union. So while I agree that the worker needs to get a large share of the profits. For he is the one breaking his back. Adding more bureaucrats surely wont help anyone, but the bureaucrats.

 

[silver hawaiian]

How can you not lump Clinton in that mess as well? It has been a case of Here is the new boss, same as the old boss, for quite a few cycles in this country. Trying to blame it all on one political party only furthers the agenda of the government as a whole.

Unions. One hundred years ago when owners chained shut doors, forced workers to more than 20 hours a day without vacation. They were needed. Today. Pretty sure have some extreme labor laws that just wont allow for these things to happen. People used to die while striking for a union. So while I agree that the worker needs to get a large share of the profits. For he is the one breaking his back. Adding more bureaucrats surely wont help anyone, but the bureaucrats.

Way late to this party.

But, yes.

If someone is willing to do the job for $-x per hour, .. Isn't the job then worth $x-per-hour?

 

[CANNATOPIA]

Nice Read, TY Payaso.