Hermie Help

[pip313]

I don't know if I have a hermie. I have checked all over this plant many times and I have not found a pollen sac, With that said I pulled a small bud to check for premature seeds and it was loaded with these small seeds. Does all buds have premie seeds waiting to be pollenated and grow or do these very tiny seeds mean its pollenated. I grew this same clone fully once with out seeds but I never checked for premies while growing until now. I'm concerned with other strains I have gettin pollenated. Last I should mention I scrapped a PPP because I thought it went hermie but now I think it might be the white widow. (my ppp didn't yeild for squat and had a bad growth pattern to it so no loss there)

I forgot also that I washed the whole grow room with bleach water after removing ppp

 

[Dgenerit]

If you have a plant full of seeds get it the hell out of your room before it polinates surrounding females.

A normal female shouldnt have any seeds. A male will have male sacs. And a hermie will have both female and male characteristics, which makes for very very seedy, unsmokable buds in most cases.

-Dgen

 

[pip313]

Thank-you for your opinion but you do not state a reason you think those are seeds you just seem to assume so but thats ok better safe than sorry however:

Can I get a conformation that those are not ovules and are in fact seeds I don't want to totally scrap half my flowering plants and all my clones until someone with 1000+ posts can comfirm ovules vs seeds.

If you have had a botany course your input would be greatly appreaciated reardless of post count.

I HAVE NEVER FOUND A POLLEN SAC ON THESE CLONES

 

[moonie]

Sorry I dont have 1000 posts but I have 14 years growing under my belt. If you have premie seeds in your buds, it has been pollinated, female clones dont just throw seeds for no reson, they'll herm and have male flowers but rarely throw fully seeded buds. If you have a clone that you've grown out before without seeds and now this time its seeded, its been pollinated. Process of elimination.

 

[Pot socks]

Did your light cycle get disrupted? Have you checked for light leaks? I've had C99 go herm from light stress.Also,post a picture of the entire plant if you can.

 

[igrowone]

you likely have a hermie, sometimes the male flowers can be very hard to find
tiny seeds are seeds, they will mature to larger seeds
sorry for the bad situation, but try to find the male flowers, you will at least identify the culprit(hopefully)

 

[pip313]

Thank-you for the posts I wasn't trying to be rude with the 1000 post thing its just I did not want to scrap these plants because 5 poeple with low posts said to and then have someone like JJ scorpio come and say that I just scraped a plant over ovules and Every female plant has those. I basically know enough about seeds and ovules to be confused. As far as light leaks I don't have any (I checked and eleminated them before adding plants)

As far as pics of the plant, my camera doesn't do micro and any pic close enough to the buds to see is just blurry. Please trust that I know what a "nanner" is I have Identified nanners in some local stuff and those are not present.

As far as culprit for the nanners this plant is the only strain it could be the other 2 did not come until the last few weeks and ppp was a issue before that.

What is the chance the pollen lived longer that 2 months and the ppp is still screwing me over. I love this plant and do not want to kill it if its a victum of the ppp.

 

[igrowone]

i've seen a lot of different opinions on pollen's life
i just had a male that i 'milked' in a room, then brought in a female for flower about a month later
the only seeds were from the bud i deliberately dusted, room had nothing done, didn't bother to clean it a bit

 

[pip313]

Since I'm a med patient I've decided to let the plants grow out and if infact they are seeds i'll just have a lot of hash making material to work with. I've wanted to get into steam distillation and it may be a good excuse to do so. Also I'm still not convinced these are not ovules and are infact seeds so If this run turns out seed free or seeded I'll report back. Est. harvest Oct 2nd

Also If I have old pollen this way it gets used by the plants currently in flower and the rest will be that much older and hopefully dead

 

[igrowone]

good luck, probably a good as decision as any, damage may well be done
they do look like immature seeds, but that's not the end of the world, back in the day there was practically nothing but seeded buds, and some of those were fine indeed

 

[Dgenerit]

No worries, I would have liked someone with more posts to chime in anyways. Like you said, I assumed they were seeds because you usually dont see anything like that in premie buds. Glad you got it figured out.

-Dgen

 

[igrowone]

one more thought, i've got a PPP flowering right now from reveg
just 1 example, but no hermie traits
i had read up on PPP before hand, i had seen a couple of posters that had grown PPP more extensively and remarked on it's good non-hermie traits

 

[pip313]

Yah I know like kids every plant is different and ppp is just of good a strain as anything else its just that ppp was crap and did have bananas. I used old seeds because they were free so maybe the ones with the strongest survival traits (hermie included) were the ones that grew at a decent rate so I accidentily selected for hermies.

Its wierd, the ppp had obvious visiable bananas but few seeds the widow has no visiable bananas and trust me I checked for hours and is loaded with these premie seeds.

My only hope is that this particular plant has bigger ovules and once the buds swell I'll find out that the seeds never grew. unlikely but I can hope.

 

[igrowone]

that does provide some clarity, nanners were seen
well, if you're inclined update the thread on your harvest, you may yet get a good PPP harvest

 

[pip313]

The ppp was last harvest and has been gone for 1 1/2 to 2 , months.

 

[igrowone]

oops, kind of lost track of the time line
the only other thing that comes to mind is pollen from some outdoor males in the neighborhood

 

[pip313]

white hairs

white hairs

If infact those are seeds shouldn't the hairs on the buds be turning brown? I still have 95% white so wouldn't that mean the amount of seeds are less than 10%

I'm starting to think my seeds are infact from left over pollen as the buds are still growing and are not brown

 

[pip313]

Some Pics

Some Pics

Here are some pics I took With a decent camera. 6 weeks flowering

 

[hawaiiOG]

I have had plants push a few seeds from blooming them with high P-K but like one or two seeds. the next time you see that happen there is this stuff called Dutch Master and you get two different bottles one is called the saturator and the other Penatrater and you mix the two and spray it on your plant and it will stop your plant from seeding.

 

[pip313]

thanks for the advice hopefully this is the last of my seeds