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I made some really strange seedlings. wtf happened?

ScrubNinja

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Hello. I am not a breeder :1help: Last year I made some seed with seemingly decent parents. I didn't store it the best and all of them were useless now. I had one pack though with maybe several hundred seeds and they all looked uniformly great. I've planted them twice now and always the same result - they sprout out of the ground very slowly - over 4 or 5 days to really be pointing up, from when they first breached the soil.

One cotyledon usually points up, the other points down. This is all that happens. The cots just get laughably large and floppy, but no regular spiky leaves come out. Even after like 2 weeks.

I investigated close up and it's like there's a pale sickly albino leaf inside that never develops. It's very tiny and hard to show at such microscopic levels, but here goes (several plants in pics)

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Here is the mother, which was sort of confused from the day lengths (Full Moon - not certain of lineage but probably f2 or f3 if I understand my terms right)


And here is the father (Sensi's Shiva Skunk - f1). It doesn't show so well but it had a distinctly swirly appearance to it. Like it had been warped a little in photoshop or if I was under the influence of lsd or something. :crazy:


Is this likely to be a problem from my selection of parents? Otherwise, how could I avoid this again? Thank you for reading :)
 
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Bongstar420

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That seedling looks healthy aside from the underdevoloped apical maristem. The seed may not have had enough time growing on the plant. Anyways, if that thing grows, it would be interesting to see the crystal formation. It looks like it would have a shit tone of trichromes.
 

shawkmon

Pleasantly dissociated
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id say so, if its that fuzzy as a baby, man guess how fuzzy it will be at harvest, if its a dude cross him
 

Bongstar420

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The trichrome structure and distribution of seedlings is one of my traits of selection. My adults usually rain crystals when handling the fully dried product. I tend to favor bulbous trichrome density over the other couple types, though one can have a potent product without a substianial density of bulbous trichromes.
 

searcher

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i'v had this happen to one or two seedlings when a bunch of seeds are planted, never really questioned it at low numbers just poped them out. do you have any seeds to show a picture of?
 

SOTF420

Humble Human, Freedom Fighter, Cannabis Lover, Bre
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Probably some kind of nutritional deficiency from the mother plant that is affecting the seedlings possibly? They may not have enough stored food energy in their embryo to produce the new leaves is my guess. Try planting them in a richer medium with abundant nutrients is all I can think of, plant deep and give them more time to develop as they come up maybe that will help get some going in a healthy manner for you.

This however could also be caused by a virus affecting them from the parent.
 

ibjamming

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Are they REALLY new? Like just a week from being on the plant? I planted some really "fresh" seeds and got all kinds of mutants. My problem is usually the first set of leaves are fused together and it makes a "cone" looking thing. Instead of the normal two first leaves popping out on opposite sides...those first two leaves are fused together and a "cone" grows up from the cotyledons...with no apex tip...just the two leaves and nothing else. Any growing comes from the side branching.

They either die or are mutants that don't amount to anything. I did notice that they are FULL of the big bulbous trichomes. In fact, they're nice and cloudy by the time I cull them, or they die naturally. It appears to be a fatal flaw.

Good luck with yours.
 

SOTF420

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Agreed, the Alaskan Fish fertilizer works miracles for seedlings at 100-200 ppm
 

bigwity

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i had one seedling do this out of about 20 i just left it in the corner and after a month new leaves grew from behind the white mini lones and all was well.
i puy it down to crappy soil that i brought as soon as i repotted it took off
 
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