Genetically Engineered Cannabis

[Kushy]

I am watching a show on genetically engineered corn, soy bean, ect and was wondering if we could genetically engineer Cannabis?
Why? Why Not?

 

[bromhexine]

considering how paranoid potheads are already i dont think they need anything new to worry about consindering how great the natural strains are already. theres a growing argument whether modified strains would be healthy to smoke and whether it would ruin the gene pool eventually leading to bad genetics. there are some that say the autoflowering strains have been genetically modified. i think more research needs to be done over longterm effects before guaranteeing it safe to much around with on the other hand whos to say what breeder is performing genetic modifications behind closed doors already.

 

[DocLeaf]

Cannabis has already been genetically engineered to contain a terminatory gene for use by farmers. Otherwise commercial hemp crops would become feral and wild.

 

[englishrick]

have we ever had a fullon monsanto thread doc?

that T Gene is evil,,,,

glow in the dark tobaco

 

[DocLeaf]

The fritillary seed collective veggie thread in the general gardening forum covers some of the basics of Monsanto problem rick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhON1WN48tQ

 

[foomar]

If the technology ever filters down from vital food plants to where respected canna breeders can use it it could be a wonderfull tool , takeing and modyfying material from existing cultivars and adding single specific traits and blocking undesired ones in a repeatable way.

Traits that are mutually exclusive could be seperated and explored , genes from hops could be added to radically change the plants form and female seeds and autoflowering could be sorted out properly.

Guess the cost and complexity will limit its use to the monsanto,s with the eventual problems that could bring to all plant species.

 

[Chimera]

Cannabis has already been genetically engineered to contain a terminatory gene for use by farmers. Otherwise commercial hemp crops would become feral and wild.

^^This is completely untrue. Please get your facts straight

The only cannabis genetic modifications involves polygalacturonase inhibitory proteins to inhibit botrytis growth in hemp. It is ONLY scientific research and no commercial cultivars have been bred, developed or released from this technology.

The terminator technology was not developed by Monsanto (although they do own it -(they purchased the company that developed it), but don't use it in commercial varieties, and absolutely no varieties in any species have been released using the terminator technology.

Rick the gene you see expressed in the tobacco plant above codes for the luciferase protein... not the 't-gene'

-Chimera

 

[GMT]

what modification would you want?

 

[SOTF420]

To make things worse, I heard they are engineering artificial Cannabis seeds now. What a very sad day that would be when we have people growing plants from those and not natural genetically diverse ones from the plant itself which nature created but rather tissue cultures from a lab in fake seed capsules! There goes the neighborhood! I wonder if the artifical seeds will have a "T" gene in them too so that certain un-named entities can ensure ongoing profits from their sale?

 

[Kushy]

I mean altering a plant to say have a 100% resistance to pests or be able to with stand higher or lower temps and still have the same performance. I just think one day it will happen. The effects of altering these couldn't be any worse than eating a stock of corn. I say we leave it as it was intended to be. Not altered and Organic. That being said, "Who wants to buy my Advanced Nutrients?"

 

[SOTF420]

Yeah it is very detrimental, how many people now have how many pests, diseases, and inherited genetic problems from clones? Alot more than you think!

That is why so many lines are rare or lost is because people are trading more clones instead of making seeds. There is value in clones certainly but as we rely more on clones instead of seeds it does nothing to further or advance any genetics other than the exact bottle necking you speak of because everyone has the same cut of the same shit with the same problems much like some of the plants you have used to make lines with as well as many other breeders. I would rather breed with only seed grown plants than clones that have been around forever personally. Clones are not the answer and you of all people should know that Chimera if you thought more about the whole picture instead of possible convenient profits with artifical seeds. Maybe continuing work on more natural sourced & based landrace heavy crosses with more inherent genetic diversity of long evolved beneficial traits should be first & foremost. I am not a professional breeder but I can see the severe limitations & drawbacks of converting clones into mass produced artificial seeds which would effectively eliminate many people from ever actually growing out real seeds and continuing seed lines. I for one still want to be able to grow out my own seeds and make more with my own selections not what someone else already chose in clone form for me.

 

[englishrick]

hay chim

ive got a book that tells us exactly how to make canna florecent,,,,i mean i know they use this folorecence with fish to track population, but is there realy any point to it [for us]?,,,could you guys do it?

 

[SOTF420]

But would it keep itself from flowering due to the light pollution?

 

[HUGE]

it will happen if pot is legalized. weather its wide spread and accepted is still up in the air but rest assured if they cal legally experiment on it and see money in it they will. they have done some sort of gene moding on almost everything already havnt they. atleast the commercial stuff. consider it done.

 

[DocLeaf]

^^This is completely untrue. Please get your facts straight

The only cannabis genetic modifications involves polygalacturonase inhibitory proteins to inhibit botrytis growth in hemp. It is ONLY scientific research and no commercial cultivars have been bred, developed or released from this technology.

The terminator technology was not developed by Monsanto (although they do own it -(they purchased the company that developed it), but don't use it in commercial varieties, and absolutely no varieties in any species have been released using the terminator technology.

Rick the gene you see expressed in the tobacco plant above codes for the luciferase protein... not the 't-gene'

-Chimera

Terminatory genes where present in commercial hemp crops c1996/7. ,, we grew them from seed.

Info:

Terminator seeds are genetically engineered to produce a plant that will not produce viable seed, meaning that growers would be forced to go back to Monsanto each year to buy more seed stock to replant. Governments and public alike became wary of the concept when it was discovered that the terminator seed could possibly cross the species barrier, possibly spreading infertility among the plant kingdom like a disease.

Cannabis seeds from Monsanto are almost definitely genetically engineered. Genetically engineered plants can be patented, and it is in Monsanto's best interest to hold a patent on any seed they sell. Seed patents ensure that companies like Monsanto can continue to profit from seeds from year to year, as farmers are legally bound to buy patented seeds from the patent holder rather than simply store them from the last year's crop.

Source : http://forum.hashmuseum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=573

Hope this helps

 

[GreenintheThumb]

Thanks for not making this so much of a trollfest doc. But I'd love t know where you acquired these genotypes and where you grew them if it isn't too much a detriment to your security.

 

[DocLeaf]

We took them from a field,, kept the seeds and grew them the following season. The seeds grew fine in location,, and in gardens,, in the 2nd season. In the 3rd season the line became infertile and didnt grow anywhere (fields or garden).

I will find some photos (in gallery)

Btw,, Chimera has his own opinions,, based on what he's done,, which isn't much.

Peace n love

 

[GreenintheThumb]

We took them from a field,, kept the seeds and grew them the following season. The seeds grew fine in location,, and in gardens,, in the 2nd season. In the 3rd season the line became infertile and didnt grow anywhere (fields or garden).

So you stole the terminator gene from somewhere? And then this terminator gene didn't work for a few generations? Then IT drove your lines into the ground? Please check Marijuana Botany by Robert Clarke it'll explain this situation at your speed without the requirement of any terminator genes. Take care.

 

[DocLeaf]

i'm NOT here to sling Mud with anyone !

Field weed (aka genetically modified hemp) c1996/7 season

My buddies cultivated lbs of this hemp,, and I's brethrens took 10's of kilos from the fields.

Edit: No we didnt breed it with normal ganja plants (are you mental? its hemp man!),, the populations where selfed,, and the seeds saved. We could probably still find some of the seeds someplace.

Hope this helps

 

[GreenintheThumb]

i'm NOT here to sling Mud with anyone !

Field weed (aka genetically modified hemp) c1996/7 season

My buddies cultivated lbs of this hemp,, and I's brethrens took 10's of kilos from the fields.

Edit: No we didnt breed it with normal ganja plants (are you mental? its hemp man!),, the populations where selfed,, and the seeds saved. We could probably still find some of the seeds someplace.

Hope this helps

The terminator gene isn't growing in huge fields. What country is this happening in? Why didn't the terminator gene work for generations? Can you even explain to me what the terminator gene is?