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cheecha07

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So this was my first year trying to clone, using the bubbble method and was almost completely unssucessful, 3 runs of 6-9 in total and only 2 made it, both in my first run. Right now I just have the one female as I pulled the other clone once it showed me it's balls. Altho the girls mom was extremely male, but may have had some pistils that I didn't see, as I take the advice of many here, to cut males asap.

So now I'm kinda worried because I've used these plots twice now and both times I've ended up with insanely high male/female ratios, seriously like 10:1 even though this year, I read up on how to get 90% plus females by controlling humidity,temp,light duration/spectrum. All things were done 3rd-5th week just to be safe and seemed to show early signs of being female. However outside they went and 1 by 1 about a week apart I would find a male this went on all summer until my crop of 20+ is now 3, although they are surely female atleast.

Needless to say I learned my lesson and wil try to refine my cloning technique to ensure this doesn't happen again. But the fact that I have a female clone off a male plant seems to indicate to me theres something wrong in the soil, perhaps colloidal silver...jk I no hermies can be stress induced but I dont see where the stress could have come from, they all seemed very healthy and grew insanely fast and big.

The female clone was placed in a seperate patch and was taken from the DAD when it was 2-3 ft tall and when I cut it was well over my head. Is this bad luck, Am I doing something wrong perhaps, or are my patchs tainted by some unknown plant testosterone? This year has dealt a major blow to my ego, as did the last time, but I really thought I had it made this year, but nature had a different idea i guess.
 

cheecha07

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this is why you should buy fem seeds and save time and space

LOl funny you say that cause I was going to however read everywhere that fem seeds are much more unstable with high hermie tendencies. However it appears that information could have been complete bs as I seem to be having that problem anyway.
 

D.S. Toker. MD

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Ive grown out 100's of fems Cheecha07, and ive yet to see a hermie. The real test however is the fact that if i have 2 females of the same strain, 1 from regular seeds and 1 from femmed seed, there isnt a grower on the site that can tell me which is which. Further still, once the weed is dried, there isnt a grower who can tell me which of the smoke is from the femmed plant or the plant grown from regular seed. BS man.

For everything i know, its impossible to take a cut from one sex and have the clone end up the opposite sex. The chromosomal equipment for the other sex isnt present in the cut. It can be hermied.
I know of no soil condition that can cause the problem as long as the plants are relatively healthy and growing. Sex in cannabis occurrs by week 6 in its life and that when your problem is occurring. I can only guess why your having such a high ratio of males, but too much or too little light can increase males. 16 hrs usually results in a decent ratio. HPS lights cause a higher concentration of males than do halides and high temps causes more males.

Out of 10 seeds, ive had 6 or so males, but its usually 60-70/40 female for me. There's something wrong with your ratio and its happening in the first 6 weeks. I ALWAYS get a higher concentration of females when i germinate under natural sunlight.

femmed seed.
sensi star/blue hash/ - there are a bunch of good fems.
 

cheecha07

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Ive grown out 100's of fems Cheecha07, and ive yet to see a hermie. The real test however is the fact that if i have 2 females of the same strain, 1 from regular seeds and 1 from femmed :tiphat:seed, there isnt a grower on the site that can tell me which is which. Further still, once the weed is dried, there isnt a grower who can tell me which of the smoke is from the femmed plant or the plant grown from regular seed. BS man.

For everything i know, its impossible to take a cut from one sex and have the clone end up the opposite sex. The chromosomal equipment for the other sex isnt present in the cut. It can be hermied.
I know of no soil condition that can cause the problem as long as the plants are relatively healthy and growing. Sex in cannabis occurrs by week 6 in its life and that when your problem is occurring. I can only guess why your having such a high ratio of males, but too much or too little light can increase males. 16 hrs usually results in a decent ratio. HPS lights cause a higher concentration of males than do halides and high temps causes more males.

Out of 10 seeds, ive had 6 or so males, but its usually 60-70/40 female for me. There's something wrong with your ratio and its happening in the first 6 weeks. I ALWAYS get a higher concentration of females when i germinate under natural sunlight.

femmed seed.
sensi star/blue hash/ - there are a bunch of good fems.


thanks for the info and for sharing your exp. Seems it's just another unsubstantiated claim that fem seeds are somehow worse even tho they cost more. Needless to say I've learned my lesson, nothing but fem seeds and clones from now on. Did a back alley PH test today, questionable method, and inconclusively found that my ph is a bit over 7 however if my memory serves me OD plants can tolerate higher PH however I will be slightly adjusting it. Also, did use the 16 hours regimen with the metal hallide for indoor veg.

Another thought i just had about the light regimen I used for indoor vegging was 16 on 8 off and the plants were put out when it was 15 hours for about a month until the equinox. So could the light adjustment have affected it at all?

Also, I no its impossible to get a female clone off a male so that means it was originally a female that showed male nuts first, altho it woulda herme'd had it gone longer? I assmumed the original sex would show first before the hermie'd sex but I guess since males tend to show first this was not the case
 

Phillthy

Seven-Thirty
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i have had males turn female for a few weeks then revert back to males. heat stress was the culprit.
 

dominicangreen

Weed Robot
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i always have fem seeds from Green House Seeds and never gone wronge with hermi and now i run a PK cut gifted to me and its all fem.hermi plants are in gene pool and will always pop nannas some fem plants when they are stressed do to growing conditions..anyways dont believe what you hear about fem seeds i have some of the best grows with fem seeds
 
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