titibarzoti
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if you harvest an indica a bit earlier then you re supposed to ,will it give you more of a sativa-like high?Even if total potency is reduced ,I would prefer it that way than that couchlock paralysing effect.
obtaining the sativa-like high
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that is a great way, most harvest by trichome color based on the type of effects they are after.
Like letting sativas run a little long but then again what sativa DOESN'T run for DAYS lol.
Be careful cuttin fast flowering indicas too early though especially those that finish in the 50-60 range.
Like letting sativas run a little long but then again what sativa DOESN'T run for DAYS lol.
Be careful cuttin fast flowering indicas too early though especially those that finish in the 50-60 range.
titibarzoti
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so harvesting as soon as I see 2-3 amber trichs would indeed eliminate the couchhlock?
The whole idea that harvesting indicas early will give a sativa-like high is a myth. Just depends on the plant really, I've had indica clones taken at 8 weeeks that were heavier than the 10 week clone. The stone generally doesn't last as long and can have certain unpleasant effects such as more raciness and some people report headaches. Best way to eliminate couhlock is to grow sativas.
durka_durka420
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or grow hybrids to have best of both worlds...right now im running purple maroc wich is a sativa based strain and has a 7week flower time supposidly....tons of resin production,one out of 3 is turning purple,they say its a outdoor strain but im having great success indoor with it....good luck man
titibarzoti
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now ....could i host a durban poison into a 40 x 40 x 120 cm growtent?will it need lots of training?
enter sandman
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exactly what he says...i don't care what anyone tells you on here, you will only get a sativa high from a sativa or sativa dom hybrid.
I will get flamed for this and probably totally hated on - but... SATIVA and INDICA are plant traits... not high's. Indicas are often found with less light (11/13) and have traits to help the plant cope with that - the opposite (light 13/11) for sativas... all because of location. What controls you're high is THC, CBD, CBN's as well as many other chemicals. You will find all of the chemicals in all the plants - its the plants genetics that will determine how many of these terpins and such. Harvest and judge the high by trichromes and nothing more.
Clear = No chemicals
Cloudy = "Head High" chemicals
Amber = "Couchlock" chemicals.
Personally - i always go all amber. I dont get "couch lock" or "head" highs... I get high or i dont. I cant ever tell the plant strain by smoking it - but you show me a pic and i'll be able to point out Sativa vs Indica easier.
You'll never be able to get a for sure answer because people will always have opinions. The only way to truely get a feel for it is to grow the strain several times several ways to get its high and such dialed into what you like.
Clear = No chemicals
Cloudy = "Head High" chemicals
Amber = "Couchlock" chemicals.
Personally - i always go all amber. I dont get "couch lock" or "head" highs... I get high or i dont. I cant ever tell the plant strain by smoking it - but you show me a pic and i'll be able to point out Sativa vs Indica easier.
You'll never be able to get a for sure answer because people will always have opinions. The only way to truely get a feel for it is to grow the strain several times several ways to get its high and such dialed into what you like.
enter sandman
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dude...the differences in indica & sativa are night and day. Most people smoke cannabis for the high (how it makes you feel). You have the indica stone & the sativa high...very clear cut & simple. Most can smoke any strain & tell the indica vs sativa influence in it(meaning seasoned growers & smokers)...strain name does not matter. If you personally just get 'high' no matter what species, then you are a very unique individual & are in the minority..........
I disagree. Several times i have gotten weed that was "Pure Indica" or "Pure Sativa", and a group of friends and i could not tell the difference. We all got "high" but there werent different highs.
Also - If indica and sativa were indicators of the high - wouldnt the Amber indica be the "best" indica high, and amber sativa trichs are "best" sativas? How is it that we judge the harvest by the color of the trichs, but claim its the strain's genes leading to the high?
I believe the genes (Indica vs Sativa) are an indication of growth - Thats why we can tell what genes it has by looking at the leaf. And if ya wanna know what "type of high" you'd look at the color of the trichs rather then the gene's.
95% of the time if i keep the strains name secret, no way is anyone gonna be able to tell me what it is. Its a 50% chance, but i always ask "What gave it away" and the responce i get is "uhhhhhhhh.... i guessed". I've done it with friends, med patcients, dispensary owners, workers... Never do i get a good answer. Its deff not as definitive as "does this chocolate have sugar or no?"
enter sandman
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Cannarado...brother you just proved that you don't know what yer rambling about......I don't think you have even smoked pot at all lol!
Or you just have nothing to offer and cant debate me.
No need to slander, lets keep it to science.Placebo can do a lot! Funny how EVERYONE i've smoked pot with hadent the slightest clue about Indica vs Sativa or amber trichs until Senior year high school where we all started searching for how to grow tips. My uncle, dad, friends dad, - many long time smokers laugh at all the "Amber trichs" and "Sativa vs Indica".
To each their own... but theres not much science on weed yet. Neither side can for sure prove it. Its like the flavor debate - well, what you consider good i may not! So we can disagree, but leave the slander at the login...
It just doesnt make sense. We call the high by plant strain but we harvest for the high by the trichs.
This is the second time you've said this in this thread. Clearly, you do not understand the concept or its effect. This discussion, and some of your other posts I've read, lead one to believe that you do not grow Cannabis. I would strongly suggest that you refrain from dispensing advice to folks who do.
Simon
enter sandman
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exactly...this guy should not even be on this site...
Believe what you will. I have my ways and thoughts, you have yours. Until you can show me scientific proof over "Well this is what we feel" then theres no definitive answer. Just because the general pot smoking public feels that way - I disagree.
Prove me wrong or disagree, but your slander is immature and unnessisary. All your doing is being rude and of zero possible educational value. Lets hear claims that can back up your thoughts... i've told you how i feel and why. You said it yourself, ive done it twice. I explain what i believe and why - Lets hear your thoughts otherwise you have no need to post in this thread.
Explain to me why and what chemicals in a Sativa differ from that of an Indica. And why is it that we harvest by trich color?
Prove me wrong or disagree, but your slander is immature and unnessisary. All your doing is being rude and of zero possible educational value. Lets hear claims that can back up your thoughts... i've told you how i feel and why. You said it yourself, ive done it twice. I explain what i believe and why - Lets hear your thoughts otherwise you have no need to post in this thread.
Explain to me why and what chemicals in a Sativa differ from that of an Indica. And why is it that we harvest by trich color?
T
treefrog
from the info on this forum, that's not true at all, there's hardly any cbn in living plants, what turns as the plant matures are terpenes, they will affect the high. that's how I harvest, when the plant smells ripe.
couchlock is from high THC strains, some euphoric strains have some amounts of CBD.
there's a docu on cannabis, done by an english woman, with no prior experience with cannabis, she's a dumb first user who does not follow direction and smokes a 1 gram joint in one sitting and then wonders why she's feeling weird.. but my point is that, she's injected with pure thc and finds the high to be 'funeral' like, very sedative.. when CBD Is added she can hardly keep a straight face and chuckles when trying to answer basic questions.
couchlock is from high THC strains, some euphoric strains have some amounts of CBD.
there's a docu on cannabis, done by an english woman, with no prior experience with cannabis, she's a dumb first user who does not follow direction and smokes a 1 gram joint in one sitting and then wonders why she's feeling weird.. but my point is that, she's injected with pure thc and finds the high to be 'funeral' like, very sedative.. when CBD Is added she can hardly keep a straight face and chuckles when trying to answer basic questions.
Weird.
But in some searching i found this, http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mjgrow9d.htm.
But what ever happened to CBN's? Can anyone say how the terpins of a plant effect it?
Also... Hybrids. How are we able to assure the quantity's of Indica vs Sativa? How do we know what Geno's we're getting with the plant? How are the chemicals mixed and such when they are bred? How are we even sure what genes we're getting are what we're told they are? Its such a hodge podge you can really only make a statement of the weeds effects per plant - you cant even say per strain or anything.
But in some searching i found this, http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mjgrow9d.htm.
But what ever happened to CBN's? Can anyone say how the terpins of a plant effect it?
Also... Hybrids. How are we able to assure the quantity's of Indica vs Sativa? How do we know what Geno's we're getting with the plant? How are the chemicals mixed and such when they are bred? How are we even sure what genes we're getting are what we're told they are? Its such a hodge podge you can really only make a statement of the weeds effects per plant - you cant even say per strain or anything.
