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Why I am voting no on prop 19!

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krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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THIS IS THE LEGALIZATION FOR RECREATIONAL USE ship. ALL COMMERCIAL GROWERS AND PROFITEERS, please jump ship.


damn! one of the biggest commercial growers/profiteers put his profits he made off of patients to fund this bill.....

how does that make you feel?

oh, the irony! :tiphat:
 

215forLife

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Yes, but anything over 6 plants/8 ounces (in general, its different per county) will still get you in trouble at a 'state' level. that is still the guidelines set forth in SB420/Prop 215 until its "amended" (that magical word again :) .. But if a medical patient is busted the prosecution will not be able to hold "being over by x amount of plants" against you, as long as its under 100 plants, which is the threshold for Federal offense...

WRONG! Read the Kelly Decision.

STATE SUPREME COURT SAID WE COULD GROW AND POSSESSES ALL WE WANT. NUMERICAL LIMITS ARE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT TO PROP 215...

You are a fucking idiot...

no the threshold for federal offense is 1 plant. The 100 plant thing is when MANDATORY Minimum sentencing takes effect.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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I seriously wonder if you anti's even believe the ridiculous shit you say, or if you just make any wild statement you can think of and see if you fool anyone....

Some of the shit you guys say is so absurd.....

Seriously we are seeing reefer madness 2010.

Are black people going to rape our white women too???
 

215forLife

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No limits under the current law?

Yea right, let me see you set up a hundred plants in your back yard and then call the local law enforcement, or federal law enforcement if you like, too.

I bet you'll be needing more than $100.

LOL I already ratted myself off to the feds, THEY CASHED THE CHECK!

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echo_chamber

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Look, i joined this debate to voice my opinion on Legalization and ignorance amongst my American brothers & sisters, oh and to get my post count over 50 so i can get a custom Avatar. I've made my point and i'm at 57 posts including this one, woot! Thanks for the debate, it was real! And please vote YES on this bill. It will keep every Californian out of jail for having a bag of weed on them and growing in their closet. That is a fair move forward for starters...Look at what law enforcement loses, millions of arrests which translates into 100's of million of lost forecasted income.. think about it.. Vote yes my friends, and keep voting yes on any bill that move legalization forward..
 
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guest456mpy

Thank you TruthOrLie !
BTW if recreational and medical users increase our personal output to meet our own needs as per Prop 19, what will happen to the demand for product from said commercial growers and profiteers?

As William Shakespeare said long ago "Madame, Thou dost protest too much".

In other words you wouldn't complain so much if it wasn't something you would profit from, instead.

Convince me otherwise.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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WRONG! Read the Kelly Decision.

STATE SUPREME COURT SAID WE COULD GROW AND POSSESSES ALL WE WANT. NUMERICAL LIMITS ARE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT TO PROP 215...

You are a fucking idiot...

no the threshold for federal offense is 1 plant. The 100 plant thing is when MANDATORY Minimum sentencing takes effect.

See this is my point. It's obviously your not totally retarded since you understand the ruling. So why can't you comprehend 19?? Or do you just opt to intentionally misinterpret in an attempt toisguide voters?????
 

lost in a sea

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I seriously wonder if you anti's even believe the ridiculous shit you say, or if you just make any wild statement you can think of and see if you fool anyone....

Some of the shit you guys say is so absurd.....

Seriously we are seeing reefer madness 2010.

Are black people going to rape our white women too???

instead of throwing out some absurd and over the top statements,, maybe take the time and pick out the statements you disagree with,,

i mean who (in the whole community ??) would start the whole "ganja makes black people animals thing",, thats just daft..

dont be so dramatic
 

erbium

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instead of throwing out some absurd and over the top statements,, maybe take the time and pick out the statements you disagree with,,

i mean who, in the whole community, would start the whole "ganja makes black people animals thing"

dont be so dramatic

Have you ever read the law that made marijuana illegal in the USA?

That is what he is referring to.
 

echo_chamber

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WRONG! Read the Kelly Decision.

STATE SUPREME COURT SAID WE COULD GROW AND POSSESSES ALL WE WANT. NUMERICAL LIMITS ARE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AMMENDMENT TO PROP 215...

Sorry, Prop 125 is still law, you can get the most current version from NORML and you will see the 6 plant/8 ounce limit still applies until a new amendment TO Prop 215 is put forward. Prop 19 does not address it..

You are a fucking idiot...


i'm quoting the law, which is there for all to see... debates get you heated obviously, then dont have one my freind...

no the threshold for federal offense is 1 plant. The 100 plant thing is when MANDATORY Minimum sentencing takes effect.

I'm speaking about California since we are talking about Prop 19... Feds wont touch a case in california unless its over 99 plants, or unless "other" offenses tied to the growing/posesssion charge are drastic, then they may federally prosecute you for less than 100 plants..
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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damn! one of the biggest commercial growers/profiteers put his profits he made off of patients to fund this bill.....

how does that make you feel?

oh, the irony! :tiphat:

Who else had the balls to do it??? Who else was willing to sacrifice 2mil ???? It wasn't me and it's surely not you....?

I think lee is a clown. But i will give him credit. He just painted a huge target on his back....
 

215forLife

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So 215fl ... what do you charge for an 8th of "Meds"?

If you want to inqure then do so through the appropriate avenues. Otherwise you are trolling for me to post a response which would be a violation of TOU since it could be considered advertising...

Lets just say this everything is cheaper than what Lee charges,...
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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instead of throwing out some absurd and over the top statements,, maybe take the time and pick out the statements you disagree with,,

i mean who (in the whole community ??) would start the whole "ganja makes black people animals thing",, thats just daft..

dont be so dramatic

I've already posted the evidence to prove anti 19 claims don't hold water. It's not my fault you all choose to ignore it...
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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Who else had the balls to do it??? Who else was willing to sacrifice 2mil ???? It wasn't me and it's surely not you....?

I think lee is a clown. But i will give him credit. He just painted a huge target on his back....


i agree with you completely. just pointing out the fact.....
 
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guest456mpy

If recreational and medical users increase personal output to meet individual needs as per Prop 19, what will happen to the demand for product from said commercial growers and profiteers?

As William Shakespeare said long ago "Madame, Thou dost protest too much".

In other words you wouldn't complain so much if it wasn't something you would profit from, instead.

Convince me otherwise.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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i agree with you completely. just pointing out the fact.....

You have to think,,, Lee HAS to know that this could be his un-doing if shit hits the fan,, so he has to be geared up in case they bring him in and this goes to trial.

And if Hes going to rep legalizing it in a court case that will be viewed by millions nationally,, at least it's some Non threatening looking guy in a wheel chair. That will look more legit than alot of other dispensary owners I know who look more like b-real or a meth cook....
 

IWanaGetHiSoHi

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You could just answer the question ... I think the Staff knows I'm not looking for a Hook Up. Believe me ... I don't need one ... and I don't care if your price is less than others ... my PM button works ... I'd like to know a little more about who I'm listening to ... lets start with what a self proclaimed All Around "Real" MMJ Entrepreneur charges for his meds. I took the time to read your thread ... all of it ... so you kind of Owe me in a weird twisted way.
 
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