stupid question

[dansbuds]

sorry but i'm doing alot of reading into hydro growing . but have yet to really understand this portion . in net pots with clay pebbles ..... how do you put your rooted clone in the pebbles ??? do you just put it in as straight as possible or do you leave it in a rockwool cube then bury it in the clay pebbles ? or is there another way of doing this that i haven't caught onto yet ?

 

[dtfsux]

Typically you root in some type of media like rockwool, coco plugs etc. Once that has a good amount of roots coming out, you can put that in to a pot with hydroton. The first couple days are critical to make sure the plants are at the right depth in the pot to get water.

It doesnt really matter how you put them in as long as the roots are getting watered. I preferred to leave mine as high as possible so i had more room for roots to grow

 

[guest456mpy]

I start in 3" square pots in coco.When the roots are running up the sides I transplant to 6" round pots in coco. When the roots ride up the side again I pop them out of the pots and into a 6" net pot and into the DWC bucket. The roots bind the coco so none comes out and into the reservoir. I'm good to go until harvest!

 

[OvergrowingKiwi]

Depends on your system. In systems like NFT people usually top-feed until the foots touch the solution. More research is needed my friend

Best of luck

 

[foaf]

you leave it in the rockwool, put the rockwool with the rooted clone in an empty net pot, and then fill in around the rockwool cube with clay pebbles to support the clone/cube. depending on your setup, it can be important to rinse the pebbles free of the red dust before putting them in your setup.

 

[dansbuds]

OK ... so if i took a rooted clone out of my aerocloner .. moistened a rockwool cube & wrapped it around the clone just above the roots ...then put the rockwool & clone into a 6" or 8" net pot & slowly fill the pot with the (clean ) clay pebbles & drop it onto my hydrobucket ... i should be good to go . correct ???
or could i just use the 2" neoprene puck that i rooted it in ... put the puck & clone into the medium ??

sorry should have been more descriptive in my question ..... but i'm going to be cloning in an aerocloner i just built & then they're going into bubbler buckets sort of like pipedreams set up . have 2 mothers growing now & by the time my soil grow finishes up in late september , i should be able to get clones of one of the mothers & have my cabinet ready for my bubbler bucket set up .




my soil grow ........https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=182630

 

[Scrogerman]

I'm just about to do the same thing with well rooted clones out of my bubblecloner. Its a Bit tricky & you need to be careful not to crush the newly formed roots. Mine are over 8" long & i have quite a root ball going. Forget the Rockwool you dont need any at all if your going DWC, but it could be ok to use if you have large netpots imo!, if you have smaller 3"-4" Nets like me the RW is unessasary & it comes with certain qualitys that can cause problems later on in the bloom cycle. as long as you flush RW regularly its fine to use. It has a habit of accumilating salts & can cause build up if left un-flushed. This is one of the main reasons why ive dropped it completely.
Get your Nets ready, put a layer or 3 of hydroton in the bottom of the netpot, then sit your newly rooted cutting ontop,pull roots through the bottom & sides of the net, then very carefully fill-in the gaps with more pebbles untill your happy & all the time being carefull 'Not' to crush any roots. Once in the DWC rig of choice, bring up the nute-solution level so the dangling roots sit in it, as long as the roots are in the solution your fine, i aim for around 1-2" under the bottom of the net-pot, works a treat. Hope this helps ya! G'Luck!

 

[dansbuds]

Thank you scroggerman . thats exactly what i was looking for . & you 3" or 4 " instead of 6 or 8 " pots huh ? hmmmmm Yeah makes sense . going with 2 gallon pails with flat tops to cut my holes in .

what about leaving the pucks on the stems to kind of support the stems & keep them straight & centered ??? the pucks will eventually open as the stem grows & i could prolly remove it after awhile .

 

[stillsmokin843]

I go straight from ezcloner to 6in net pots just hold the clone were ya want it and fill around it with clay rocks and have never had any issiues. It doesn't take long before the roots will make the plant plenty stable hope this helps

 

[dansbuds]

yes it does ... thank you !!

 

[Haps]

I guess I am the only chap that cuts holes in all my net pots, eh? All my net post have a small hole cut, so I can just thread the root down and add my medium, and me roots are free ready for the dwc unit. I really can not see doing it how y'all do, seems unkind.
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[bendoslendo]

Doesn't the hydroton fall through?

 

[Japanfreakier]

OK ... so if i took a rooted clone out of my aerocloner

Wait till your roots are long enough to reach the bottom inside of your net pot. Hold it in the pot and gently fill with your hydroton. No need to use rockwool or anything else. As everybody else said it's important to make sure they get wet, by making sure they reach the bottom you can usually get them wet from dwc bubbles.

 

[Haps]

Most of the holes are smaller, and nothing falls through. The one in the pic above is to take a larger ponytail sized root.

 

[Scrogerman]

I guess I am the only chap that cuts holes in all my net pots, eh? All my net post have a small hole cut, so I can just thread the root down and add my medium, and me roots are free ready for the dwc unit. I really can not see doing it how y'all do, seems unkind.
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Hey Haps,
Yeah man i do exactly the same thing bro, especially with the smaller 4" nets. The holes are far too small for my liking & i widen them with a 1/8" or 1/4" chisel. I find the plant produces much smaller, rice noodle like fine roots compared with using larger holes which seems to make much larger more robust rat-tail type roots.
The net pot in the pic was a small 3", but came with very large holes anyway & still needed to be cut half way through bloom, Root's were as fat as my thumb.

Good Luck all!

 

[Scrogerman]

Thank you scroggerman . thats exactly what i was looking for . & you 3" or 4 " instead of 6 or 8 " pots huh ? hmmmmm Yeah makes sense . going with 2 gallon pails with flat tops to cut my holes in .

what about leaving the pucks on the stems to kind of support the stems & keep them straight & centered ??? the pucks will eventually open as the stem grows & i could prolly remove it after awhile .

Hey Dans,
Nearly missed that. Not sure what you mean?, i never use or would never use any organic medium myself, especially peat pucks in DWC ? The small Rockwool cubes offer little in the way of verticle support anyway & you'll find the hydroton is just fine for plants upto a certain size like 14-18" on it's own, I use a Scrog/Screen myself anyway set at 12" (Max), so verticle support is of little concern. I'd actually recommend you using some sort of net or screen, or even yo-yo's as their cheap enough if you dont fancy the screen for vert support, you will see the netpots twist & turn in their port/hole, like i said before but thats nothing to worry about, yeah use yo-yo's or just a piece of nylon string or something, that'd be fine- or a net or something!.
G'Luck Buddy!

 

[dansbuds]

no .... the pucks i meant were the neoprene pucks the rooted clone are in from the aerocloner . i was thinking of leaving it on the clone for a couple weeks in the medium just for support untill the roots took hold in the clay pebbles ...... but i will try without like you suggested .

no need for a scrog net ... they're going to be in a cabinet ( stand up clothes closet ) unless as the buds as they get bigger need a little support then i'll devise some sort of net like i did with my soil grow ....just to support the branches as the buds get heavy .

 

[dansbuds]

Thanx for all you input guys !!!! this forum has been a WEALTH of knowledge for an old timer like myself . none of this info was readily available back in the day like it is nowdays . except for the books on growing ...if you could find them LOL .

Thanx again guys !!!!!


a couple of pics of my soil grow that turned to trees on me real quick but should turn out nicely .....

 

[Scrogerman]

A ScrOG would fit lovely in there lol, hehe, Looks like a tidy little cab man. Cool. Scrog would really Maximise yield out of a little cupboard like that one man, Thats the point of it. Out of a M2 Cab like that one i can pull 15-16 Oz with 2 - 4 plants & a 400w HPS, i have an AC Hood too if i need it(summer). I wish you luck mate!

Ohh Neophrene, Duuuaaaaa!! Sorry dude must of been blitzed, do what ever works for you bro, leave em on n experiment, i cant see a problem with leaving them, not too long or you may get Mildew or 'Damping-off' even, dont for get about those, the stem likes to breath down below, just keep an eye. It would depend on the pot size imo, for me the hydroton does fine. but your support idea sounds spot-on!