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Qupid

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This was my first grow with bag seeds. At first they looked all good but in the past 2 weeks they have went south fast. I'm wondering if I just wasn't feeding enough. I flushed for 3 days because at first I thought it was overfeeding now I think I was not feeding them enough. Any suggestions?

This was just a trail run to collect grow items I needed for my real grow with seeds from a bank. I surely don't want this happening to the seeds I purchased.

These plants have been through a lot. When I first started them they went from outside in a pot with FFOF to inside to DWC and lots of transitions in between. I'm now using AN as of a week ago...I was on technaflora which was OK but I must be doing something wrong.

Not sure if I should keep feeding or let them go...there are some buds on here but they are not very developed. I spotted some nanners but got rid of them.

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Qupid

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What more info could I provide? I'm new to this so I'm not sure what to offer up. The picture that looks like a burn happened 2 days after I started flushing and a week and a half after my last nut change.
 
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Serrated Edges

I can see nute burn, pH issues, and some mite damage! Get rid of those mites, they will cause underdeveloped buds and unsmokable buds! They most likely found your plant when it was outside.

Why did you go from soil to DWC? Your plants are throwing nanners from the stress of the transitions, and will probably only get hormonally worse. I would personally scrap them and start over, but if you are bent on keeping them and finishing them out over the next 2 weeks... I would spray with SNS-217, hang no pest strips everywhere, and maybe some CO2 bombs. Get the mite issue under control first and foremost.

What is your solution pH? Has it been fluctuating? What is your EC or TDS ppms? Have you been using all the AN additives? Because those will burn your plants out and lock out essential nutrients.

I also see signs of too much N (which mites love!) and Mg deficiencies. Figure out your nutrient schedule.

How strong is your DWC root ball? DWC is all about strong healthy roots, if you don't have that, you have nothing, your plants can't uptake nutrients correctly without healthy roots!

You may want to try to revive these just as a learning experience.....
 

Qupid

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@Hold Your Fire

My PH is 6.3 and the I use PH down to 5.8 the next day it is back up to 6.3. SMH

My PPM runs about 1250.

@Serrated Edges

When I first started it was "let me throw these in the dirt and see what happens" now I have the "Let me take this real serious now". I went from soil to DWC as an experiment. I guess I stressed these plants a lot. I has mites pretty bad but now it looks like they are going away but some still remain...I used neem BTW.

It looks like I'm getting healthy white roots the past 2 days. The root ball was looking brown. I will continue and use this as a learning experience.

Thanks for the info.
Here is where I'm at now after starting with hardly nothing but a pot and some soil outside.

Vegetation 18/6
Deep Water Culture (DWC) 3 Gallon tote
Secret Jardin DR60
CFL 125W 6400K (Cool White)
CFL (2) 25W Warm White
4" Eco Plus Inline Ducting Fan
Sure to Grow Clipper Cloner
Tetra Air Pump 20 Gallon
EcoPlus Digital Thermometer/Hygrometer w/Remote Sensor Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A&B, B-52
H2O2 root oxygenator

Flower 12/12
Deep Water Culture (DWC) 5 Gallon Buckets
Secret Jardin DR120
Sunleaves 400W HPS (Not sure the bulb mfg)
4 inch In-Line Fan 165 CFM for exaust
ActiveAir - 8 Outlet Commercial Air Pump 70L per minute
(6) Activeaqua - 4 inch Air Stone Disc
Hydrofarm Black Tubing 1/4" Outside Diameter Black Tubing
Air King 6" 2 Speed Circulation Clip on Fan
Sure to Grow Hail
EcoPlus Digital Thermometer/Hygrometer w/Remote Sensor Advanced Nutrients Sensi A&B Bloom, Big Bud, Bud Candy, Overdrive
H2O2 root oxygenator
GH Flora Kleen
 
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Serrated Edges

Get rid of the AN nutrient line. They are expensive and a waste, IMHO. Dump and go with lucas. Bring your ppms down also. If your pH is too high after pHing to 5.8, try pHing to 5.5 instead, and see where its at the next day.
 

Qupid

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Well I have enough AN to last another year (I got a 15% discount on them). I have another bag seed run going (that went to flower today) and I just put down my real beans 3 days ago. I know I have a lot to learn that is why I started with the bag seeds to see what issues I was going to run into.
 

Qupid

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What are your water temps at in DWC? -> About 70 F

Hope you are in a cool climate or have a strong A/C. -> We have ice cold winters plenty of snow. I hope to get all the growing done this winter because if I see any bugs I will take the plant outside for half hour to let the bugs freeze to death. It's 90 degrees out now but my temps are regularly 82 and below in the grow room.

When I got spider mites I didn't know what the heck it was because I was just learning. I was wondering why I had specks on my plants before doing more research. Needless to say it got pretty bad before I knew what it was. I have the proactive approach now.

I was gonna go with GH but at the last minute changed my mind and got AN. I'm sure it can't be that bad or they would not be in business.
 

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