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maxmurder

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so me and a couple friends were lucky enough to get this cut and we all have had these issues at one time or another..
1- leaf droop, after transplanted clones get over 8-10" tall and all the way thru veg and the first couple weeks of flower they droop after 10 hrs of light, like they are tired or something. we live in different towns with different setups (soil, coco, hydro), different nutrients (h&g, pure blend, gh, etc) and different cooling methods (sealed w a/c, just fresh air, swamp cooler). the pix of droop are in ffof under 1k hortilux blue, fed 6-3-3 fish and h&g roots ex, fresh air.


2- twisted leaf half green/ half yellow.


Strain of Mj? san fernando valley kush
Hydroponic or soil? soil
From seed or clone? clone
Age of plant in question? veg-bloom
What stage (Veg/Flower; how many days into)? varies
Medium (Soil, Rockwool, Hydroton etc.)? ffof veg- ss#2 bloom
Container/Pot size? 10" round- 4' beds
Have they been transplanted, if so how long ago? varies
If soil, composition ratios (peat moss, perilite, vermiculite etc.)?
Water runoff Ph? will check in 2days
Nutrients added? 6-3-3 fish and h&g roots ex in veg, h&g soil in bloom
Ratios of nutrients (N% P% K%)?
Feeding schedule? by weight or dryness, usually every other day
When were they last fed/watered? varies
How are you determining when to feed/water (weight, wilting, etc.)? dryness
TDS/EC/PPM? don't know in veg it's organic , starts around 1200 up to 1600
Tap/RO/Distilled water? well 180-220 ppm
Ph before and after adding nutrients?
Is your Ph equipment properly calibrated? yes- did hydro for years
Light intensity/Age of bulb/Wattage? veg lamps replaced 6 months, bloom lamps 4-6 months
Distance to the canopy? varies- never too close tho
Temps at canopy? 85 max- cooler in winter
Temps at root zone or reservoir? will check
Day/Night temps (Min.-Max.)? this time of year 60-82
Current air flow (CFM)? varies but plenty
Is there air blowing directly onto plant? medium from osc wal fans
Using CO2?no
Relative humidity? varies higher in veg up to 80 in bloom up to60
Growing technique (Scrog, Sog, Supercropping etc.)? topped once for clones
Has plant recently been pruned, clones taken, fimmed or pinched?no
Pests? no
Chemicals used to irradicate? not yet
If so,When? when a problem arises - usually azamax with humboldt sticky- blown thru gnarly atomizer.

i wrote varies a couple times cuz diff pix from diff people, if someone thinks it is important i can make a call. neither of these things are too bigga deal, doesn't seem to affect yield or quality (??) but always just wanting the happiest plants.
thanx- max
 

JamieShoes

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I could be wrong, but the leaf curl looks like mosaic virus (nothing you can do it can't be treated, won't noticabley affect yield unless very bad)... I always see it on the PP cuts here in NL


the droop I would say looks like old fashioned over watering, but reading your info it sounds like you're waiting til they dry out suffciently before watering... so I'm not sure mate


good luck in any case :)



some images of TMV in cannabis - http://www.google.nl/images?um=1&hl...ic+virus+cannabis&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

edit - IC's own TMV thread - http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=177527
 

Greyskull

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#2 sure like like a mosiac 'trait'... common on the og clones
not really sure what it is....
 
Sure got some terrific burn on there (2nd row first pic).

Drooping at the end of the day is normal and nothing to be worried about.
 

twiztidbudsmoke

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ive witnessed the tiredeness in clones you speak of, at the end of the day everything just gets droopy and tired, like an old ass man, lol. I have a theory that it is a result of too much cloning, i.e. clone of a clone of a clone and so on, the further down the line in generations you go the more problems the plants will have ime
 

maxmurder

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thanx for your replies.
jamieshoes- i heard along time ago about a mosaic tobacco virus which could be from me not washing my hands after smoking..
greyskull- ok i'm gonna look that up..
bblvr- yeah not sure what's goin on there, it's my first "organic soil" try..
twiztid- tired old ass man hahah so you know me huh? def could be due to clone off clone for many many years..
 

JamieShoes

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its more likely that your clones came with the virus mate... once its in there it remains forever, being passed to cuts and seeds alike... you should still wash your hands though ;)
 

maxmurder

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jamieshoes- no need homie- quit them deathstix a month ago! yeah we'll see how long it lasts this time.
 

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