Hanging Vertical Bulbs / lamps the easy way

[ItsAllOver]

I see it as being like this. Which is a more secure way to hang something?

-Looping a zip-tie around the object, with nothing but compression from the tie holding it in place
or
-Running a zip-tie through a hole and not relying on the compression

It's that easy, you don't need experience to know the right answer to what is more secure between these two options.
Granted, nothing is guaranteed, sure. But that's not an argument for your side, either, because really what we're talking about then is different levels of guarantee. I also grant you that your experience has been good until this point, but one thing I know for sure is that past experience is not always a good indicator for future performance... Black swans...

I'm not saying that it "won't work," but that it is obviously, inherently less secure than alternate hanging methods. (Steel i-beam joists, eyebolt/nut, heavy gauge chain welded to light base... Nah I'm fuckin around!)

Why go half-way when going all the way is easy enough? (and when the stakes are so high)

I'm not trying to bust balls, but I don't want to let something that I see as unsafe get propagated. We can have a healthy discussion about it and see where we can go.
Take care

 

[whatissixbynine]

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[LJB]

Hey all I had a bit of time on my hands last week and I had to hang up a new bulb so I thought I would show you how I do it, a lot of people use the bolt through the lamp socket, I don't do it this way, I use cable ties to hang 'em up, I've always done it this way and keep doing it as its not expensive, very simple, very quick, and lasts for a very very long time.

That is a great idea, thanks for sharing it. Do you have one for hanging two bulbs vertically, one on top of the other?

I have this ridiculous chain setup to deal with...

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

I do not agree with this method. It might be an alternative for those that do not have any other way but I would prefer to use the screw or bolt holes that are found in the socket base. Mebby for some people zips are the best way to hang the light...

Just my .02 cents.. no need to defend your use of zipties or how long the connection lasts.

 

[VeticalGrowBot]

you should post this on www.verticalgreen.org

i would copy it and post it under my name but i think people would bitch about me "stealing"

 

[Norrath]

you should post this on www.verticalgreen.org

i would copy it and post it under my name but i think people would bitch about me "stealing"

no one will bitch about you stealing if due credit is given..

i use this method for hanging single CFLs even. wrap around pig tails socket insert hanger zip tie, pull tightly around socket and now you have a loop able to hang the CFL!

(ive clipped so many decent, working applainces' AC cord and plug attached, so that i can tie it into a socket/pig tails for an easy DIY trouble light/extraneous lighting. I must really piss dumpster diving people off, especially clipping the power cord to working TVs, oooo im going to hell:S)

 

[VeticalGrowBot]

I see it as being like this. Which is a more secure way to hang something?

-Looping a zip-tie around the object, with nothing but compression from the tie holding it in place
or
-Running a zip-tie through a hole and not relying on the compression

It's that easy, you don't need experience to know the right answer to what is more secure between these two options.
Granted, nothing is guaranteed, sure. But that's not an argument for your side, either, because really what we're talking about then is different levels of guarantee. I also grant you that your experience has been good until this point, but one thing I know for sure is that past experience is not always a good indicator for future performance... Black swans...

I'm not saying that it "won't work," but that it is obviously, inherently less secure than alternate hanging methods. (Steel i-beam joists, eyebolt/nut, heavy gauge chain welded to light base... Nah I'm fuckin around!)

Why go half-way when going all the way is easy enough? (and when the stakes are so high)

I'm not trying to bust balls, but I don't want to let something that I see as unsafe get propagated. We can have a healthy discussion about it and see where we can go.
Take care

I dont even know what you are arguing about. if you actually LOOK at the tutorial youwill see a metal tab on the top of the lamp that makes it basically IMPOSSIBLE for the mogul socket to just fall out of the harness.

WAY TO GO Hun Gram Oz this is a super way to hang bulbs.

 

[OjoRojo420]

I use single wire cable (thick) attached to the main cable about 6 inches from the bulb.
Singe wire cables are then bended so they go around connecting screws tightly. Connection between the two cables is twisted and soldered.

All wires are taped and surrounded with heat insulating jacket (12 inches long).

You can hang yourself from socket!

Tested ad nauseam with 1000W HPS

 

[arrg]

octagon box with an I-hook + chains and the lamp cord going in the side knockout of the box works the best if you ask me.

No doubt. I would not feel safe using plastic straps for that and if I did that an inspector saw that or my boss I do not think I would be able to find work anywhere after that. I would laugh so hard if I saw something like that a janitor did. I have used plenty of panduit but just to hold wires in bunches never for load bearing. What does this save money wise over a 22cent box,30 cent fitting and a 50 cent eyebolt? Is a house worth saving a dollar ten? It may hold for a while a couple years or so but the do get brittle and age fast in sunlight. I do not think a steel box will age and weaken as fast.

merry christmas everybody!

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

No doubt. I would not feel safe using plastic straps for that and if I did that an inspector saw that or my boss I do not think I would be able to find work anywhere after that. I would laugh so hard if I saw something like that a janitor did. I have used plenty of panduit but just to hold wires in bunches never for load bearing. What does this save money wise over a 22cent box,30 cent fitting and a 50 cent eyebolt? Is a house worth saving a dollar ten? It may hold for a while a couple years or so but the do get brittle and age fast in sunlight. I do not think a steel box will age and weaken as fast.

merry christmas everybody!

This method hasn't let me down yet and I doubt it will in the future.

Merry Christmas

 

[Avid Fan]

hey HGO,how's it going?
ive just dug my light fitting out and had forgot it was an all-in one light.
will it be hard to get the refector hood off?should i just saw it off?been searching for info for days.
im gutted,all cable-tied up and shit all to do with them!

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

hey HGO,how's it going?
ive just dug my light fitting out and had forgot it was an all-in one light.
will it be hard to get the refector hood off?should i just saw it off?been searching for info for days.
im gutted,all cable-tied up and shit all to do with them!

Hi avid, is your ballast inside the reflector? Any chance you could take a pic or 2?

 

[Avid Fan]

as requested

the ballast is connected to the lampholder and reflector hood by a 2 meter long cable,so i can keep it well out the way of any moisture.if there's major wire tampering in order,i might just get a new one.it'll set me back though!

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Ah you have that kind of a reflector, no problem, if you get yourself a angle grinder, cut a line along the white bracket to the lead (making sure not to cut the lead) then you can twist open the bracket and release the lead.

Have a look below, the red line is where you need to cut with an angle grinder:




Make sure you take out the bulb before doing any work and take out the screws that hold the bulb socket. I've done that to a lot of lamps without any problem.

HGO

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Oh and if there are any pop rivets you can simply drill them out.

Job Done

 

[Avid Fan]

thats excellent!cheers man,i had visions of me combusting or some shit like that,but that sounds easy enough.i'll post a pic once it's off and cable tied,gimp style!

once again, thank you!

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

thats excellent!cheers man,i had visions of me combusting or some shit like that,but that sounds easy enough.i'll post a pic once it's off and cable tied,gimp style!

once again, thank you!

Gimp sytle, eh , even if you can't get your hands on an angle grinder a bolt cutter would do...

Keep us posted Avid.

 

[calstar]

THANKS FOR THE INFO

 

[real ting]

I am wondering with this method, how do you handle the wiring safely and within code? It looks like those are bare leads coming out of the socket, they need to be wired within some sort of box.

 

[bobblehead]

While it's not up to code, I have used this method in the past, and I've never had a zip-tie fail on me. If anything I had trouble removing them. I say it's a good cheap/temp solution, however hooks and chains are best and are cost effective.