ITS GETTING WORSE

[9677846]

I would like to begin by saying that i had posted a thread about these same plants several days ago but now that it is more severe i thought a new light should be shined upon it

How long has this problem been going on? one week
What STRAIN are you growing? dinafem industrial plant
What was the establishing technique? (seed
What is the age of your plants? 12 days
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 14 days
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? yes
How Tall are the plants? 5 in.
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? veg

What size pots are you using? party cups
What substrate/medium are you using? 3/4 promix hp 1/4 perlite
What brand Nutrient's are you using? fox farm
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? 1 tbs grow big,1 tsp big bloom

What size bulb are you using? t5 310w 6 bulbs
How old is your bulbs? new
What is the distance to the canopy? 7 inch
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 60-70%
What is the canopy temperature? 76 f
What is the Day/Night Temp? same
What is the current Air Flow? a/c plus osc fan
i'm looking for advice or words of encouragement

 

[mrk8814]

#1. Stop with the Grow Big unless you know for a FACT Ec is low, but keep using Big Bloom @ 1 tbsp per gallon
#2. KNOW the ph and Ec going in and coming out ALWAYS .
#3. Water only when needed, no routines
#4. Temp/Humidity are fine.

 

[Mud Man]

They are too young for any heavy Feeds or any Ferts Really... Looks like the small cups have gotten bad quickly..
Have you been feeding them since they were tiny ??

Quickly go flush them out with very nice water and Transplant to good new fresh mud..
if they survive that shock,, light Fert feed when they have a had a week to get used to the new tubs..
good luck, hope this quickie helps

 

[9677846]

i know better but i did do 1 feeding in the first week as the fox farm schedule said.

i really hope you're right mud man cause this is my second crop AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW YOU'RE WORDS OUT OF FAITH
i appreciate your replies fellows

 

[Mud Man]

i know better but i did do 1 feeding in the first week as the fox farm schedule said.

i really hope you're right mud man cause this is my second crop AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW YOU'RE WORDS OUT OF FAITH
i appreciate your replies fellows

1st things first dude, Keep them alive, they are on their way out of town fast!!

If you save them and see any sign of improvement in the new tubs HOLD OFF feeding! Trace Elements Seaweed / Algaegmix types will save your babies
dont go pouring in loads of this that and the other..
Let them recover in the new tubs, they will need a lot of attention..

You could pop new seeds, i am not sure what your situation is ,as a back up if time is important and you are under the gun,,

I will PM you man,,

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Those also need to be transplanted to something with a bigger pot size.

 

[9677846]

mud man and phedro- thanks for coming to my rescue, i just flushed and first thing in the morning i will begin transplanting them

phedro just so i can learn man- how can you tell by looking at them that they needed to be transplanted?

 

[Mud Man]

mud man and phedro- thanks for coming to my rescue, i just flushed and first thing in the morning i will begin transplanting them

phedro just so i can learn man- how can you tell by looking at them that they needed to be transplanted?

transplant and leave in dark to recover from stress..

do not re-pot and put under lights..
do it before lights out Bro...

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Because the plants look too big for what you currently have them planted in.When the roots get locked up all kinds of weird problems start happening.

 

[blwd67]

I don't know from experience or anything but just looking at what is going on in the 16oz cup thread those plants don't necessarily look too big

 

[Xtensity]

I don't think cup size is the issues. I've seen MUCH bigger plants in those cups that grow fine.

PH level of container?

 

[ibjamming]

Looks like too wet (I don't see drainage holes) and maybe pH too.

 

[JamieShoes]

do those pots have holes? these plants look overwatered


edit - yes, what ibj said ...

 

[9677846]

Looks like too wet (I don't see drainage holes) and maybe pH too

you cant see them but their's a bunch of 1/4 in. holes on the bottom

 

[JamieShoes]

ok


here's what I would do if these were mine... I would let the pots dry to at least 50% (12-24hrs).. then I would flush them with pH'd water (5 x the volume of the cup)... then I would leave them for 24 hours, next I would give a half dose of rhizo tonic (or seaweed extract) to address the shock, and possible N def. all the while I would be checking the pH of the run off to ensure that was correct.

next after (hopefully) showing signs of recovery, I'd transplant them to bigger pots (that would be a day and half to 2 days from now) and start with a half dose feed regime for a few days maybe a little extra N (N27 or kelp/seaweed), once I was happy they were back to full health I would continue with the normal feeding schedule.



hope that's of use to you mate... doesnt really tell you what went wrong, but should hopefully get the babies back on track.



best of luck
j


p.s dont forget that after administering any kind of "treatment" you'll need to wait a good while (usually 12-24 hours) to see the effects...
p.p.s old damaged leaves will never "repair" themselves, so you need to look at the new growth to see what's occuring

 

[Mud Man]

SNAP!!

Jamie got it right i reckon

 

[Phedrosbenny]

In the medium your using it would be much easier and would take care of ALOT of your problems.Plants being rootbound,overwatered,and over nuted account 99.9% of all the problems in growing.Whats left after that is bugs.

 

[Mud Man]

how you getting on 9!

 

[JamieShoes]

hahaa.. was just wondering the same, Mud.... its about time they either looked better or....not

 

[tokinafaty420]

It looks like the soil is too soggy. When the soil is constantly too wet it will actually block the uptake of nitrogen, hence the yellowing. The droopiness is from lack of oxygen at the roots. In other words you are suffocating them.