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From Acapulco Gold To Albino Rhino: The Marijuana Trademark Land Rush

Panda

New member
i didnt know monsanto existed until just now, so fucked up trade marking genetics is WRONG. its the most horrible idea that has ever come into my head. Its different when anyone can grow your genetics but when they trademark only a little piece of its genes, thats fucked.
 

BigBudBill

Member
I am starting a growers club in the South Bay. Elemental Wellness in San Jose has agreed to host our meetings. Here is a quick blurb I wrote:

Crop Circles is a grower’s club sponsored by Elemental Wellness to help growers share experiences and techniques and to facilitate breeding of new and interesting hybrids and phenotypes. These monthly meetings will be an hour long and will be a fun social gathering and learning experience for all! There will be a short meet and greet followed by short introductions, genetic swapping and a small presentation and discussion of various topics will be presented weekly. Some topics we will cover are: Safety, security and developing protocols, Stages of growth,Pollination and Cannabis propagation, Plant pests and diseases, micro grow techniques, and Harvesting, drying and curing. If you are a new, micro, or small grower, or if you would like to participate in breeding projects this is the club for you! Our first meeting is August 15th at 3:00pm.


I dont really know what direction this is headed, but I would like to see a farmer's market/swap meet grow from this as well as a social environment where we can all discuss and grow with our favorite plant! We are really open to ideas and suggestions. If you are interested PM me and I can give you more info, directions, etc.

Hope to see you there!
 

ksmokey

New member
awesome to see even the slightest bit of momentum going on this ! I really wish i could PM right now haha.

this kind of activism is one of the reasons why i moved to ca. hope to get more involved once i've got things more settled...

keep on organizing guys! wish i could do more but because of my circumstances all i can do is shout encouragements...
 

bbing

Active member
"The way I see it... Smaller, local growers aren't unified behind a single voice or organization so they aren't able to utilize whatever strengths (numbers, experience, etc) they may have. "


Take a look where your at.....:tiphat:


ICMAG is responsible for more momemntum and change than any other single thing, entity,or individual person. The knowledgebase has grown faster than anyother online forum I have participated in (and thats many all the way back to old school bulletinboards in the early 90's).

Many groups, organizations and initiatives have been around for decades or more, but the shift really isn't about a person or a group or anyone thing. It is THIS very thing that started a huge fire back in the Overgrow days....... .. .

on point: I would imagine that filing a trademark or service mark would require at least some element of exclusivity prior to an award. It wouldn't be very difficult to dispute the existence, use, and origin of many of the names already given.

Making IBL and stable heretible traits in marijuana is more difficult than you think...giving something a servicemark should be one of the least concerning things to you. Trademark is the marketing and recognition part of the process (you know...when you strike cannabis gold). So, unless you guys are holding out with some new worthy germplasm in secret; I would focus on the making the strain, rather than what Industry will do with our slick strain names. If the seed banks changed the name of all our beloved strains...fresh cream would rise again...

a rose is a rose

Think the town of Alcapulco, Humboldt, and Maui better get hot and trademark their own name (they have done this in Southern California).
 
The first thing that I though of as the example of the light bulb Thomas Edison gets the created for inventing it first, when technically he didn't. There were already functioning light bulbs around. He was sold a patient for a light bulb that was already in use by another inventor. After improving on the design of that light bulb he filed the patient his modification of the light bulb with a carbon filament.

It's this type of scenario that I fear may happen. Even though there have been strains around for years or more, who legally owns the name is the only thing that matters, and it would be very easy for a ConAgra or a Monsanto to attempt to patent these names for the market, especially if they are "government approved".

Overall, I do not fear cannabis turning into some welfare crop like soybean and corn. While compounds have been identified, cannabis is still relativily unknown. Cannabis still contains psychoactive chemicals, so while you may see Altria branded joints or Budweiser brownies at your local corner liquor store, it will still be regulated in that respect. And since there are still some counties in the US that are still "dry", you can expect that some counties will always want to remain cannabis free, as well as alcohol free.

While the current events that are unfolding in Calfornia and other states may seem scary and alarming, keep in mind that alcohol, even in the face of multinational corporations, still have a healthy and robust micro and home distilling and brewing industry, just like there are local farmers markets. For example, not everyone buys their vegetable and fruit seeds from Monsanto and/or their subsidiaries, so even if Monsanto did start selling its own cannabis seeds, cannabis growers would always find safe alternatives, just like garderners do today.

When people say they want legalization for cannabis, then they must accept the fact that cannabis will inevitably become big business. It s set in stone, no matter how much one person, one million or ten million people may protest and hate it. Corporations have the money, the lawyers, the lobbyers and the land to grow as much as they want. The majority of people, the same people who vote against cannabis legalization will feel safer that cannabis is in the hands of corporations like Wal-Mart, Altria, Anheiser Busch, Betty Crocker, Yum! Brands, etc because this is what they will want. They are not interested in the issues that we hold sacred and true to our culture. And for me that is okay, because this is America and if someone wants to smoke a Malboro "Green" or a Newport mentholated joint, they can do so. I will be smoking my own.

But, just because cannabis becomes big business does not mean that local markets will die, because they will not, and that is an inevitably fact. Big-agriculture has not stopped or ruined local farmer's markets. Big-alcohol has not stopped or ruined local brewers and distillers. Big-tobacco has not stopped local tobacco growers. When Big-cannabis emerges, it will not stop local growers and breeders, because there will always be profitable markets for all locally, home-grown made goods, including cannabis. What is local shall always remain local unless someone sells out.
 

Hazelnuts

Member
Can you even patent genetics? Never heard of that being done, but I know you can patent hard genetically modified plant genes, but I think soft GM stuff (aka selectively bred plants/plant lines) can't be patented as far as I know. You can just TM the name I think
 

nomaad

Active member
Veteran
correct, one cannot patent a name. you could trademark one, but certainly not patent it.
 
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