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Hash Zeppelin

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^god that drug czar is full of shit. His own kid was arrested for drug use, and when he was in seattle he was pro pot. wtf happened.
 

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Lets be honest, most "legal" growers that get caught up aren't watching their P's and Q's. If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

We shouldnt have hide the fact that we grow a plant.
 

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I' ve read the bill and still can't figure out if it affects prop 215. It does not seem to but i am not a lawyer. Still not sure how to vote and it is a bad bill(wish it was simpler like Dennis Peron said) but their has to be something for momentum.

Hash The supreme court ruled Senate Bill 420 was invalid because it was not a voter referendum therefore it can not change a voter referendum. Prop 19 is a voter referendum.

this is not voter referendum to change prop 215. It would have to be stated clearly to mean that specifically. A new bill doesn't just override an old one. There is a separate process for that too. 215 would have to be found unconstitutional in a court battle first but it wont be be because of multiple court precedent. The makers of prop 19 will not challenge 215 because they would lose o 215, and prop 19 would be negated.

it is like when some of the democrats tried to argue that the right to bear arms only applies to civilian militia, because of some vague wording. that shit didnt fly, they got absolutely no where with that argument. trying limiting prop 215 because of prop 19 will not fly either. No cali judge is going to convict a person for a legal personal grow based off of 215. The San Diego DA was laughed out of court basically countless times.

the feds might still interfere, but they will already anyways.
 

GanjaAL

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In light of Mr. Richard Lee's new 60 pound a day output in his new grow facility... do you think when prop 19 passes will they go after him?

He and a few others most likely will be the only players left in calif supplying it all.
 

K1ndBudz

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We shouldnt have hide the fact that we grow a plant.

I don't exactly feel a need tell folks about my garden, let alone show them my plants. So yeah I guess you could say Im hiding that fact that I grow.....I was taught security as rule #1, Different strokes for different folks I suppose.:tiphat:
 
I don't exactly feel a need tell folks about my garden, let alone show them my plants. So yeah I guess you could say Im hiding that fact that I grow.....I was taught security as rule #1, Different strokes for different folks I suppose.:tiphat:


right on and ya will be one of the ones who doesnt end up in jail ...wanna show off use the forum with a digi cam
 
if it limits medical growers but the cops are voting against it i dunno. i'm on the fence. there is still time but definately tought to see past the smoke and mirrors. i dunno if i can vote with cops thought. think about that. cops are against this one.


u really think the cops or anyone else wants to deal with weed ur crazy they want bigger fish and weed users growers just slow them down from doin what the public needs like capture ppl who murder rape steal and other shit...im sure they are all for it any of them who take their job serious and know the truth bout weed
 

GanjaAL

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Yea but the Federal government is passing out money to local LE for busts on Marijuana... so I would not hold my breath. Budget short falls = more busts.
 

redwood-roots

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After reading both the links and this thread...I'd currently vote no..it does seem to be about taxation and not legalization, based on what I've read. The absence of the word "cultivate" really bothers me...

quote from the 1st link below:

"Cultivation is one such law that is noticeably non-exempt.[17] In spite of the fact that the tax cannabis Web site says otherwise, the only medical marijuana exemptions that the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Initiative actually makes are with regard to possession, consumption and purchase limits, which only ensure that patients would still be allowed to buy medicine at dispensaries. The word “cultivate” is conspicuously absent. Whereas today a person with a doctor’s recommendation has the right to grow up to an unlimited number of plants, the initiative would drastically reduce that number to whatever can fit in a 5’x5’ footprint (around 3-6 plants—per property, not per person). This will force many patients to resort to buying instead of growing their own medicine, because of the inconvenience caused by producing multiple grows a year rather than growing a year’s supply of medicine at one time, as many patients currently do outdoors. And growing indoors—which typically requires special grow lights, an increase in hydro use, and a lot of time and attention—is a comparatively expensive endeavor."
 
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Legal...ividing-medical-cannabis-providers-in-oakland

DeAngelo spoke on behalf of perhaps 250 local growers who supply Harborside and feel threatened by the rules, which would initially push growers into two camps: those under 96 square-feet that will not require a permit, and large football field-sized facilities which will need a permit.

thought this was relevant.

@HashZeppelin - i will delete if you like. also, you are one hundred percent correct in your explanation of how this law will not affect Prop 215. People need to take government again.
 

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Richard Lee is all about the money, pure and simple. As always it comes in the guise of helping poor medical patients when it is really about lining his pocket. That became obvious to all but the kool-aid drinkers when he INVITED a union to unionize his workers. WTF? You think that is anything except enlisting the help of the government/union cabal to cement his position as the mass producer of pot for MONEY?

If you can't figure it out when it is slapping you in the face then I'm sad for you.
 

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I don't exactly feel a need tell folks about my garden, let alone show them my plants. So yeah I guess you could say Im hiding that fact that I grow.....I was taught security as rule #1, Different strokes for different folks I suppose.:tiphat:

If it is legalized it will be less likely to be stolen.
 

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Richard Lee is all about the money, pure and simple. As always it comes in the guise of helping poor medical patients when it is really about lining his pocket. That became obvious to all but the kool-aid drinkers when he INVITED a union to unionize his workers. WTF? You think that is anything except enlisting the help of the government/union cabal to cement his position as the mass producer of pot for MONEY?

If you can't figure it out when it is slapping you in the face then I'm sad for you.

I have no problem with him unionizing HIS workers. I have no problem with him making money. It's good. In order for pot legalization to move along further after prop 19 passes it needs to prove to be highly profitable and advantageous for the state, and citizens. It is part of undemonizing pot, and showing that it can be more profitable for the government than enforcing it.

It has to be this way because money talks. money makes the world go round so to speak.
 

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I have no problem with him unionizing HIS workers. I have no problem with him making money. It's good. In order for pot legalization to move along further after prop 19 passes it needs to prove to be highly profitable and advantageous for the state, and citizens. It is part of undemonizing pot, and showing that it can be more profitable for the government than enforcing it.

It has to be this way because money talks. money makes the world go round so to speak.

It wasn't the workers that unionized. It was he that invited the unions. Protection and money = corruption. It's all right there to see. He is no hero.
 
no they just want this because sb420 didnt work out and they need tax money for the state to stay afloat............ prop 215 stand alone
 

K1ndBudz

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If it is legalized it will be less likely to be stolen.

I doubt it. The way I see it most rippers are doing so because they are not smart enough to grow for themselves or they would rather just wait till all the work is done and have no qualms about stealing some one elses.:ying:

Unless you meant stolen by the man...
 

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