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badabing1

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Curious on everyone’s thoughts in regards to not keeping mother plants but continuously cloning clones.

Does the strain become less potent? I've read many contradicting arguments so really interested in personal thoughts/ experiences? :tiphat:
 

Squiggles

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cloning clones works a treat mate

i keep mothers/fathers but only so i have a collection of breeding material

a strain never becomes less potent from constant cloning
 

darwinsbulldog

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the genotype should pretty much never change mate if you clone regularly. i've heard that mutations can build up in plants that are very very old and keep for cloning so as squiggles said it's always best to clone the freshest clones etc. potency won't change.
 

Squiggles

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the genotype should pretty much never change mate if you clone regularly. i've heard that mutations can build up in plants that are very very old and keep for cloning so as squiggles said it's always best to clone the freshest clones etc. potency won't change.

well put Darwin.
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Japanfreakier

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Some plants will lose potency or taste over time but that is about the plants age, the age is the same if you keep the mother or clone from clone.
 

Squiggles

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Some plants will lose potency or taste over time but that is about the plants age, the age is the same if you keep the mother or clone from clone.

im on the fence on this one mate
i have a skunk 1 clone i put in circulation back in 1990-93
its still around now and still as potent as it was back then
just dealing with 20-30 clones in a room is enough to make me want to hurl and the smoke is same, Nap time for the uninitiated

maybe another decade will make a difference who knows
Science is golden
 

Japanfreakier

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That's why I said some plants. I don't know why it's some and not others. I usually do clones from clones for about 3 years or so and most of the strains are fine, but others do change a bit.
 

badabing1

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Thats great to hear... An old man once told me after cloning a clone for more than 5 generations mutations do start to appear.

Personally using the cloning the clone method is one of the most productive ways to keep a line going esp. if you only intend on keeping 2 plants at 1 time.

thanks for everyones help :)
 

High Country

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Curious on everyone’s thoughts in regards to not keeping mother plants but continuously cloning clones.

Does the strain become less potent? I've read many contradicting arguments so really interested in personal thoughts/ experiences? :tiphat:

I once maintained a mother plant of the strain I grow for 5 years. It was a consistent and reliable clone producer. The narcotic effect never changed, it remained constant. I have also taken clones off lateral growth from plants grown SOG style at 2 weeks into 12/12 over a number of years. The potency in both methods remained exactly the same.

The potency of a plant is related to it's genetics, not the cloning regime or style.
 

dmt

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in mothers directly from seed , and first generation clones (c-1's) i notice 15% increase yield and 15 percent decrease in veg time and flowering time. i did an experiment with sk#1 in 03. and a sk#1 clone.

potency is genetic. so should always be there. but vigour, resistance to disease, imuunity etc is subject to the clone at hand, d
 

badabing1

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Thanks DMT -

I have read alot of people in these forums say you should never judge a plant untill you have cloned it.
 
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Guest50138

I gave a cutting away 10+ years that is still going today and has been maintained clone of clone probally getting to about x 40 + by now and its still healthy:)
 

dmt

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my pk cut and sweet skunk cut are very very old, and probably cloned of clone and unimaginable amount of times.

if a mother is weak from constant harvesting, she will lose vigor. but starting another mom from one of the babies will maintain close to original.

the pk is still one of the stringest and happiest in my garden, and the mom she came from was killed liked 3 years ago becuase of a lack of life, but her leagcy lives on, and when stress/disease free, she is a monster yielder and very potent, d
 

Smurf

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Generally speaking a clone from clone method will after time loose it's vigor,,, there are exceptions to the rule though.

A euphemism for this is: if you photocopy an image then repeat the process over & over again using the last image produced each time to copy from, chances are your image will become grainy.

I also have friends who have grown (via this method) the same strain for well over 10yrs with no noticeable difference,, but who's to say a change will not occur?
 

madb

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Ive noticed no change in my Mr Nice Black Widow at all. I have even reveged mature buds and cloned from that more than once and she keeps on going and going.
 

dmt

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i find "the best" method is ditching moms, and having a preveg/rooting area, where the cycle plants become the moms. just before placing them into the bloom room, remove all the unecessary ofetn lower stuff, you'll get great material down there from 2-4 week veggers.

that way your clone stock is always "fresh" if you know what i mean.

its like moms know how old they are and will just die someday, but fresh clones from fresh clones seem to work very nicely, d
 

shroomyshroom

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I have to disagree with everyone claiming that clones lose taste and potency..

i know ppl that have been using the cloning from clone method for 20 years and it has not lost any potency and/or taste
 

badabing1

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Ive noticed no change in my Mr Nice Black Widow at all. I have even reveged mature buds and cloned from that more than once and she keeps on going and going.

how is the black widow? I've been waiting for the new stock to come in. might buy a pack! Also waiting on the mango haze:tiphat:
 

badabing1

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i find "the best" method is ditching moms, and having a preveg/rooting area, where the cycle plants become the moms. just before placing them into the bloom room, remove all the unecessary ofetn lower stuff, you'll get great material down there from 2-4 week veggers.

that way your clone stock is always "fresh" if you know what i mean.

its like moms know how old they are and will just die someday, but fresh clones from fresh clones seem to work very nicely, d

i agree 100%
 

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