2 63 watt LEDs-5 indica

[yesum]

Waiting for photos. Well, finally figured out how to use camera and get pics to puter! mazar i shariff are the two on the left and pakistan kush on the right. 3.5 weeks into flower. Another paki and mazar in tent.
I got 5 out of 5 females, 3 percent chance. I also have a few fungus gnats, but that was my fault. I have the lights from 2 inches above plants, to touching them at times. No bleaching, so I guess I am fine.
I supercropped all of them, but am not impressed by bushiness. How would i know tho, first time to grow these or crop any.
Think I will top next batch.

 

[yesum]

I have all tied down, to try and keep them at around 20 inches high. I vegged for 2 months, which was too much and have to deal with height issues now.

The plants are in 2.25 gallon pots, with one in a 2.6 liter pot, as I am out of room. The one in small pot is not as wide as others, but was narrower than others to begin with, when I had all of them in 2.6 liter pots prior to flowering.

This is my first indoor grow and will be first harvest, as other outdoor grows never finished(bugs, animals, etc.)

I vegged these for 5 weeks under 52 watts cfl in party cups. I watched the gnats circle around the lights and thought, naw they cannot be fungus gnats. I like having the plants out in the open in kitchen to look at them. Oh God..... Next time, in the tent zipped up from start.

 

[Ordinary Joe]

Nice plants. With 4 weeks into flowering, your half or not quite half way to your goal, you've got to do something with those gnats. By something, I mean kill them now. Some home improvement, Wal-Mart, regular gardening stores have BT worm killer or Mosquito Dunks for sale. The BT is a liquid that you can dilute with water and pour in your soil with your regular watering. The Dunks have to sit in water to activate or get buried in the soil. Anyway, both contain a biological microscopic worm that will infect the larva living in your soil and kill it. Keeping the upper layer of soil dry or a layer of sand on top of the soil will help.

If you have a grow store nearby, you can buy gnatrol or something else like that - that the store recommends. Do it as soon as you can. The gnats like moist organic soil to lay their eggs in. The larva hatches from the eggs and they eat organic matter, like your plant's roots. In four to six weeks they can do some serious damage. If you have regular 'house plants' in your home, treat them too.

 

[yesum]

^^ Thanks. I put mosquito dunk bits on top of soil and put some sand over the top of that. Did not seem to help much. The other thing I am doing is spraying the soil and drain holes with Neem oil solution.

I have a hot shot pest strip as last resort. Kinda like the atom bomb for Japan.

I see a few gnats flying around and smash them every day or other day. I think if the number gets way up there, then the larvae really do damage to roots. I'll use the pest strip at that point, but really want to keep organic, as it has been all the way thru now.

 

[VerdantGreen]

hey yesum looking good

i would try dissolving or leaving the mosquito dunks in the water before watering. the bacillus is harmless to the soil. i bought a liquid version in the UK and it pretty much cleared up the gnat population in a couple of days. i think there is a thread about it in the infirmary forum

VG

 

[habeeb]

fungus gnats:

bio : bti , mosquito dunks,
traps: sticky paper , water cups, I heard beer in cup? ,
top dressing: perlite , sand

kill them quick, and fast as they multiply. remember to guard your bottom holes..

 

[MeanBean]

Still looks like your in good shape bro, just might have a lanky stemmy strain, or a long flowering time, looks like them buds have a long way to go. Either way I think you have a good led per plant ratio.

If I were to do anything I would remove the lower really under developed stuff so the plant focus's on the stuff getting the light. 20" is a far ways down...

 

[yesum]

Thanks for dropping by and commenting guys.

Verdant, I think I soaked the bits enough with heavy watering, but maybe you are right. I wanted to scrog this grow after watching your grows, but I had to count on males being pulled from it, and that screws that idea.

Habeeb, I have tried all the methods you advised with limited success. I put apple cider vinegar in a cup and got 1 gnat over 1 month time. I tried the fly paper and it got stuck to leaves. Saw no gnats on it either.

Hey Meanbean, wondered if you would drop by and here you are. Lonely in here without Cam or zombo eh? Yea, the mazar has sativa in it, I am sure of that. I think it is real mazar tho, just the breed of hashplant they have there. The Paki appears to be full indica.

I got real lucky with all females and they fit perfect in there. I have thought of trimming the bottom stuff, but have not yet. I guess I will. Will help the top level get all the bigger. You mentioned you tried side lighting with cfls and got the plants going sideways, just did not like it. I have thought of led side lighting, but would have to figure to train the plant to not grow into the lights. Reason for this, would be to grow the plants 3 feet tall and get production from bottom half. I think I have 18 inches of good micromoles(323 at 18 inches) if that is enough.

I used the hot shot in the tent for 1 hour with the plants outside. Cleared the air in tent after. Sprayed the soil with neem oil, so still organic. Have thought of cedar oil soap solution to try on soil next. It is organic and seems to really work.

 

[habeeb]

^apple cider doesn't work, been there done that. and it smells so bad

I suggest you keep at it with gnatrol or a Bti product in combination with the other methods, as it will decrease population to have water cups as they die in them or lay the babies in there, and for sticky paper, try taping it to the tent or cutting it up in small squares to get, as the sticky paper works!! I see the sane now on top Im sure there breeding at the bottom holes then, but Im not there to see the buggers.. what you can do is get extra extra large panty hose and wrap the bottom, or something similar in nature, like netting cut to size with rubber bands, as I said be inventive and one step ahead of them as they are highly advanced

keep at it man, be inventive and figure out a way as the babies eat root!!!!!!!!!!


also, if you said first time grow, awesome man, if not, awesome still. HAHA


have fun

 

[VerdantGreen]

a bit of orange juice and water half and half in a cup caught a lot for me, but the gnat off bacillus Thuringiensis stuff worked overnight for me - pretty sure its the same stuff as mosquito dunks but in liquid form.
this stuff
http://www.hydroponics-hydroponics.com/pd-fungus-gnat-off.cfm

 

[MeanBean]

Hey Meanbean, wondered if you would drop by and here you are. Lonely in here without Cam or zombo eh? Yea, the mazar has sativa in it, I am sure of that. I think it is real mazar tho, just the breed of hashplant they have there. The Paki appears to be full indica.

I still am puzzled why Zombo left, however I still talk with Cammie alot through the ole interwebs...

I still have alot of interesting people to chat with!!