Will a male plant with a few female calyx produce 'all male' seeds?

[snuffalupagus]

Hello all, i have tried to research a bit for myself but haven't had much luck so i thought i would just ask the question here and see if i can get a little help.
I was wondering what the seeds from a male plant that just has a few female calyx at the tips would be like?
From what i can gather, a female plant with only a few male flowers will produce 'all female' seeds? So is the opposite true for a male with only a few female flowers? eg. it will produce 'all male seeds'?
Thanks in advance, any response is appreciated.

 

[Hazy Lady]

It would be like other hermaphrodite's - useless - and should be killed.

 

[Scrogerman]

Hey Guys!
Funny how it works the other way around though aint it, A Mostly female plant that polinates Itself(Selfed) will produce 99% female or XX Chromosone offspring. I'm still trying to learn what i can, when i can, on the breeding subject, its complicated & intriuging.

 

[snuffalupagus]

It would be like other hermaphrodite's - useless - and should be killed.

Could you please elaborate?
It has only shown balls for most of it's life, and has been stressed pretty bad with it's light schedule changing all the time. Am i right about how the 'all female' seeds are produced, ....and the 'all male' seeds idea-is it wrong?
thanks again.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

There is no scenario that could result in all male seeds.

When you say male most of it's life...was that life during veg or flower? Got pics?

 

[snuffalupagus]

No sorry i don't have pics, my camera isn't very clear.
It was grown 20/4 for about 3 weeks then 12/12 for 2 weeks until i noticed balls. I then put it outside for a while and it continued growing balls. It has since had some chopping and changing light hours for the next 3 weeks unfortunately, and has only just produced 2 or 3 calyx's on 1 tip.
Hope this is enough info for an opinion.

 

[♥Mo♥]

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hermies

Hey Guys!
Funny how it works the other way around though aint it, A Mostly female plant that polinates Itself(Selfed) will produce 99% female or XX Chromosone offspring. I'm still trying to learn what i can, when i can, on the breeding subject, its complicated & intriuging.

Actually my understanding is that if a female plant self pollinates, the offspring will almost all be hermaphrodite. Using pollen from a hermaphrodite to pollinate another all female plant should result in almost all female offspring. Again that is my understanding. For what it is worth I have also heard the male throwing a few female parts will result in mostly male offspring.

 

[Andyo]

75 % male

75 % male

Ive used a normal male and a normal female selected from 600 plants from seed and the off spring consistantley gave 75% males .
So fuk knows how that fits into the equasion!.A

 

[toryscum]

There is no scenario that could result in all male seeds.

When you say male most of it's life...was that life during veg or flower? Got pics?

oh but there is!

 

[toryscum]

No sorry i don't have pics, my camera isn't very clear.
It was grown 20/4 for about 3 weeks then 12/12 for 2 weeks until i noticed balls. I then put it outside for a while and it continued growing balls. It has since had some chopping and changing light hours for the next 3 weeks unfortunately, and has only just produced 2 or 3 calyx's on 1 tip.
Hope this is enough info for an opinion.

sounds mostly male though it could be a masked plant, however intersexed it certainly is - it doesn't sound very resistant to stress and IMO should be culled.

I also feel theres plenty of info on this within the site.. yet all I see is thread after thread on this very subject.

 

[igrowone]

i had the same experience, a male plant that started showing pistils after considerable stress
apparently, this is not that rare, but pistils that are fertile on a male plant are supposed to be very rare
now this is where is gets strange, according to DJ Short(the breeder), such males are very desirable, their pollen is supposed to add stability to a strain(less hermies) and increase the proportion of females
don't claim to understand, just that there are some posts around here with that info

 

[Scrogerman]

Actually my understanding is that if a female plant self pollinates, the offspring will almost all be hermaphrodite. Using pollen from a hermaphrodite to pollinate another all female plant should result in almost all female offspring. Again that is my understanding. For what it is worth I have also heard the male throwing a few female parts will result in mostly male offspring.

Selfed, ive read that a selfed female produces 99% female offspring(XX Chromosone) I also know not all strains can be selfed!, i thought you should get rid of the hemie's or the trait stays in the line! Im gonna have to go read more now, lol! again & again & again & a you get the idea! Im pretty sure you got that wrong there man! on the other hand i could be wrong too, happy days! ;?)
You Have heard of S1's?
Someone was saying just the other week, they were trying to make Fem seeds, im not 100% but they did what you said an ended up with all males! ill see if i can find the post lol! and correct myself! Breeding is complicated, i know that for sure!

XX/YY/XY/YYXX/Xy/XXy/XXyyyy/XXyy what!!!!! I was never any good at equasions or algebra! or spelling either! or geography or history etc lol, but hydroponics is my thing & im naturally good at it,(Blow my own trumpet!!!), i wanna be good at Coco next!

there's some Big Guns on IC here that im sure will chip in to put us all straight!

 

[Hazy Lady]

Could you please elaborate?
It has only shown balls for most of it's life, and has been stressed pretty bad with it's light schedule changing all the time. Am i right about how the 'all female' seeds are produced, ....and the 'all male' seeds idea-is it wrong?
thanks again.

Yes you are right, some do produce 'all female' seeds that way, no doubt you would have male heavy m/f ratio's, but whichever way you look at it they are unstable and will be liable to f*** your crop at any moment, imo we have enough threats hanging over our gardens without adding to them with genetic time bombs.
I would be severely pissed off if I was passed seeds that had these traits but that's just me
I appreciate you had to stress the he££ out of your male to produce pistols but the fact remains, it is always liable to do so again and so are any offspring.

 

[foomar]

A stress self fertilised male plant produced male and female seed in a recent test despite my initial expectations.

Was not easy to reverse by environmental stress , males seemed normal but not used , females were variations of an expression from the stock the male came from , few minor single bananas very late in flower on both , bud was fine but nothing special.

Thread here
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=143533

 

[snuffalupagus]

thank you all, i guess it's just a matter of wait and see?

 

[snuffalupagus]

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