bone meal?
- Thread starter beejium
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NUG-JUG
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Nothing, that's what bone meal is for the most part. It's kinda gross some people don't use it, but I do since it's just so cheap.
Process description
The present data refer to bone, blood and meat meal production in daka. Different production methods are applied in the industry, but some of the main processes are following: 1) by-products from slaughterhouses (bones, heads, intestines, feathers, skins etc.) are transported to the factories in closed containers, 2) the products are minced, 3) the "mincemeat" is coagulated by heating (80-90oC) 4) liquid and solid material is separated by pressing, 5a) the solid fraction is dried (110oC), 6a) the dry product is screened, sterilised (133oC), packed and stored for distribution, 5b) the wet fraction is heated (105oC) and fat is separated, 6b) fat is sterilised (125oC), packed and stored for distribution. The wastewater generated during the process is either treated completely and emitted to recipient or treated to some extent and diverted to further treatment in municipal wastewater treatment plants. Ventilation air is treated in bio-filters. Bone, blood and meat meal from healthy animals has traditionally been used for animal feed. However, use of the products for feed has been banned in EU since 2000 due to fear of BSE and the products are currently incinerated.
Process description
The present data refer to bone, blood and meat meal production in daka. Different production methods are applied in the industry, but some of the main processes are following: 1) by-products from slaughterhouses (bones, heads, intestines, feathers, skins etc.) are transported to the factories in closed containers, 2) the products are minced, 3) the "mincemeat" is coagulated by heating (80-90oC) 4) liquid and solid material is separated by pressing, 5a) the solid fraction is dried (110oC), 6a) the dry product is screened, sterilised (133oC), packed and stored for distribution, 5b) the wet fraction is heated (105oC) and fat is separated, 6b) fat is sterilised (125oC), packed and stored for distribution. The wastewater generated during the process is either treated completely and emitted to recipient or treated to some extent and diverted to further treatment in municipal wastewater treatment plants. Ventilation air is treated in bio-filters. Bone, blood and meat meal from healthy animals has traditionally been used for animal feed. However, use of the products for feed has been banned in EU since 2000 due to fear of BSE and the products are currently incinerated.
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JackTheGrower
Processing plants do grind all the materials that are left over from the "trimming" process.
Once all the meat is cut from the carcase ( beef, pork, chicken, turkey ) the left over "bone" is dropped into an auger where it travels to a grinder and then to a meat press.
This is where Hot Dog meat comes from. I kid you not. It would seem there wasn't any meat left on the bones but there is. Sort of anyway.
What is left over is the basis for the bone meal we use. What "meat" was extracted is often boxed and shipped to make Hot Dogs and other Meat Products.
Once all the meat is cut from the carcase ( beef, pork, chicken, turkey ) the left over "bone" is dropped into an auger where it travels to a grinder and then to a meat press.
This is where Hot Dog meat comes from. I kid you not. It would seem there wasn't any meat left on the bones but there is. Sort of anyway.
What is left over is the basis for the bone meal we use. What "meat" was extracted is often boxed and shipped to make Hot Dogs and other Meat Products.
A couple years ago, I was renting a tiny house with a huge back yard from a cool landlord who let me garden and keep up repairs in the house. I messed around with the garbage grinder so that it could be diverted into a 5g bucket through a straight tube. I'd save my kitchen scraps in the same 5g bucket, about a weeks worth might fill it 1/4 if I peeled lots of fresh veggies like I should 
Of course, bones and meat scraps go in too. The slurry was one of the best outdoor fertilizers I've ever seen. I was thinking a grinder could be mounted in a small sink and kept in the yard to be attached with an extension, instead of the klunky under-sink arrangement I made.
Of course, bones and meat scraps go in too. The slurry was one of the best outdoor fertilizers I've ever seen. I was thinking a grinder could be mounted in a small sink and kept in the yard to be attached with an extension, instead of the klunky under-sink arrangement I made.SecretGardener
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so just use hot dogs instead of bone meal ??
haha thats just mashugana
santasapimp
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im pretty sure u want to use STEAMED bone meal
A couple years ago, I was renting a tiny house with a huge back yard from a cool landlord who let me garden and keep up repairs in the house. I messed around with the garbage grinder so that it could be diverted into a 5g bucket through a straight tube. I'd save my kitchen scraps in the same 5g bucket, about a weeks worth might fill it 1/4 if I peeled lots of fresh veggies like I should
I really like this idea. Always looking for ways to improve the design of my future home and this I believe is a great one.
I'm a vegetarian....so it would make Veggie Meal....but I'm sure it would still be good stuff.
beejium
Member
I might, but i was more curious about the method than the bone. steaming would be no problem though. A good vegetable steamer should work.
beejium
Member
A couple years ago, I was renting a tiny house with a huge back yard from a cool landlord who let me garden and keep up repairs in the house. I messed around with the garbage grinder so that it could be diverted into a 5g bucket through a straight tube. I'd save my kitchen scraps in the same 5g bucket, about a weeks worth might fill it 1/4 if I peeled lots of fresh veggies like I should
I could see how that might work. A food grinder is just a water safe motor with fins that sits just under the drain. One in, one out, and 110v wire to an lamp switch. I still don't think i want to deal with the mess at the moment. I already have a mess going on with the truck. The head gasket went and i got a crank case milkshake. Once i get the truck fixed up I might start getting into these side projects.
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staff11
Ketchup on a hotdog is just blasphemy!
Try fish bone meal.
I personally mix a 50/50 mix of fish bone meal and P bat guano...works great.
I personally mix a 50/50 mix of fish bone meal and P bat guano...works great.
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JackTheGrower
so just use hot dogs instead of bone meal ??
Of course you want to compost them first!
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JackTheGrower
Yes. It actuality it is a mini-hammer mill.
When corn, and other grains are turned into a fine meal by large hammer mills. These monsters often are powered by 500 HP electric motors or more. Each Hammer blade of that unit I worked on weighed 8 pounds. There were about 70 blades in the unit.
The centrifugal force smashes the corn kernels until they fit through a specific diameter of metal screen.
So with the kitchen grinder it has those swinging "Hammers" that basically are a mini-hammer mill.
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JackTheGrower
Well actually it is steamed as the bone and meat is cooked in the process of pressing the meat out of the "bone meal"
I didn't mention that part of the meat press is the cooking of the bone and meat before it is pressed.
What goes out in the boxes is cooked meat product and the "bone" comes out cooked too.
Do you think this "meat" translates into meaty buds Jack? Should I not add mustard on the hot dog being that it may be acidic...could this fuck up my ph?
Hot dogs,bones,steam,meat..please explain. (JK)
Hot dogs,bones,steam,meat..please explain. (JK)
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JackTheGrower
Well I don't officially recommend meat meal for gardening.
But, Nature has plenty of critters that eat meat.
It's still nasty...
So I guess I would avoid the Hot Dog Soil Amendment as much as I would avoid the Dead Pet Grow.
But, Nature has plenty of critters that eat meat.
It's still nasty...
So I guess I would avoid the Hot Dog Soil Amendment as much as I would avoid the Dead Pet Grow.
