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Botanist

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I wear a foil hat to prevent that ... I love my Roor to much... lol all kidding aside many parts of your post I agree with. What I would love for people to do is to question their political beliefs. For a moment stop looking at the other side and be introspective. Ask yourself what the form of goverment you support leads to. Ask yourself if this is really what you want.

I considered myself a liberal for many years. I made arguments for them. I thought they was for 'the people' and protecting personal freedoms. Upon serious introspection I found that I live my life conservatively. That I would prefer a more localized and decentralized goverment. That big goverment leads to less personal liberties.

I am not a Republican nor Democrat I am a American that is constitutionally conservative libertarian.

I like you.
 
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Amos Moses

History is a lesson we can all afford. Ignoring current events can be extemely expensive.

Amos :wave:
 

SGMeds

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History is a lesson we can all afford. Ignoring current events can be extemely expensive.

Amos :wave:



This is the concern that Wolf was pointing out in her book... despite the particular time & place & circumstances, there are strong parallels between past regimes & what is happening right now, right here.

And this is the scary part...


First they came for the communists... and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist...

Great thread, Texi.
 

SGMeds

Member
SB~ Can't rep you at the moment ;-)

Now that is scary... do not believe I have ever heard of this by name before. Thank you for the hook-up!

Listening to the youtube link right now, but this reminds me of a prof way back when that had us read a document from the end of WWII & the establishment of the UN. Went back to Security resolutions w/in the US that specifically outlined the end of the century & that the US should adopt specific nat'l policies to ensure it's dominant place in the emerging world order.

This appears but the modern continuation of such a mentality/policy. Control by name of nat'l security, economic & social policy...
 
If I couldn't write out conspiracies I don't think I would have a clue what is 'going on'. Local news gets better with a conspiracy twist, as does all news! If anything it's a conspiracy of the species to reproduce without much forethought~
 

Hash Zeppelin

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HZ, just curious as to what you don't like about Tea Party folk? I am not one of them; I consider myself a Patriot, an independent, so to speak, but they have the same issues with our government, that many IC members have. might have to exclude a few things, here, and there, but for the most part, we're all the same.

some of them are ok. It is the ones holding sign's that advocate mixing religion and government. Also why were these people not complaining when bush was in office? Also did they know the Ronald Regan that they worship is as fake as santa? Regan raised taxes six times. I think many of them have no clue about history, and meaning of America's constitution. I think they are pissed a black guy is president, and cant articulate their true opinion with out automatically making them invalid; even though they are invalids.

However I still believe they have a right to free speech.
 

CrazyCooter

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"anyone here ever been through a depression?"

I met an old gentleman at the grocery store a while back and he said he lived through the great depression. He also said this one is actually worse than the great depression. Let me know when it is over and I will let you know if I made it through.

"History is a lesson we can all afford."

The only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
 
"anyone here ever been through a depression?"

I met an old gentleman at the grocery store a while back and he said he lived through the great depression. He also said this one is actually worse than the great depression. Let me know when it is over and I will let you know if I made it through.

"History is a lesson we can all afford."

The only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
we are at the beginning of what could easily become
the greatest depression ever,

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Texicannibus

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I forgot my quote on my original post wich I find so fitting.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
-- The Friends of Voltaire, 1906

The founders believed that battles was waged on the 'battleground of ideas'. That only through this purging and fire of honest debate could they come to a conclusion that was just fair and protected the liberty of its citzens. Madison was probably the most important founder with regards to the constitution. While Jefferson did the majority of actual writing it was Madison's ideas. Madison was also a beautiful speaker and very genuine person. Infact learning about the founders you will quickly find that they are very genuine unlike modern day politicians. These men was patriots.
 

Texicannibus

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Earlier I referenced this and thought I should post it. This is a excellent resource has all of the federalist and anti-federalist papers. The papers was published in newspapers throughout the union. Website has some various other resources concerning the founders. If you have any interest at all I urge you to read them.

It's important to note that Madison was concerned with one very important aspect of society. Factions was this aspect. He knew from studying every known Republic in history that Factions always tore them apart. I submit my friends that our great Republic may well succumb to this same decrepit fate.

Federalist paper number 10: (The Union as a safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection) Believed to be Authored by Madison.


By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.

There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests.
It could never be more truly said than of the first remedy, that it was worse than the disease. Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an aliment without which it instantly expires. But it could not be less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air, which is essential to animal life, because it imparts to fire its destructive agency.

The second expedient is as impracticable as the first would be unwise. As long as the reason of man continues fallible, and he is at liberty to exercise it, different opinions will be formed. As long as the connection subsists between his reason and his self-love, his opinions and his passions will have a reciprocal influence on each other; and the former will be objects to which the latter will attach themselves. The diversity in the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not less an insuperable obstacle to a uniformity of interests. The protection of these faculties is the first object of government. From the protection of different and unequal faculties of acquiring property, the possession of different degrees and kinds of property immediately results; and from the influence of these on the sentiments and views of the respective proprietors, ensues a division of the society into different interests and parties.
Foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers
 

CrazyCooter

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"Alex lays it all out there - get educated."

I believe it is more important to educate yourself. If you believe in conspiracy theories and are educated, can you really take this blowhard seriously?

"there will be the ones that have, and the ones that have not. that's it"

There may be haves and have nots. The conspiracy is that people actually believe that there is not enough for everyone to be haves. The haves have more than enough to cover the have nots. Where did they get more than they could produce in the first place? 1 man cannot produce more than he can produce. He must take it from others. How did Buffet become the wealthiest man in the world, even though this is a conspiracy to keep the real players out of sight?
 

MarquisBlack

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*Phone rings* "Warren motha-fuckin' Buffett, what up nigga? Ahh nigga, stop beatin' around the bush. How much you need? 2 billion?? I'm givin' you 8, and don't pay me back nigga, you good."
 
"Alex lays it all out there - get educated."

I believe it is more important to educate yourself. If you believe in conspiracy theories and are educated, can you really take this blowhard seriously?

How else can one educate themselves on (out of sight) current event topics besides alternative media ?

The corporate big news media is controlled & censored - that is very clear.

Alex Jones has been at the front line for over a decade exposing corruption.

He has been right time after time - he has nothing to gain by lies but big brother does..
 

Hash Zeppelin

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agreed factions are bad. they lead to close minded thought for the sake of fitting in.
 

Botanist

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There may be haves and have nots. The conspiracy is that people actually believe that there is not enough for everyone to be haves. The haves have more than enough to cover the have nots. Where did they get more than they could produce in the first place? 1 man cannot produce more than he can produce. He must take it from others. How did Buffet become the wealthiest man in the world, even though this is a conspiracy to keep the real players out of sight?


Did Buffet invest at the expense of those who did not invest. If he never invested then what Buffet has would never have existed.

Wealth is created. Wealth is not finite. The man that discovered what could be done with oil did not still that wealth from the world. He turned useless sludge into gold with his mind.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^I get what they are saying, but the way they say it is funny. They quote fox news talking about censorship. HA! that is so fucked. fox new along with all the other media stations censor pro pot opinions a lot. They also all edit things to twist a story in the directions they want.
 
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