Best 8" AC Reflector

[Greenmopho]

I got some Maverick 8" that I'm pretty happy with. I know they are sort of a knock off brand, but the work fine and you can't beat the price!

 

[Quitters]

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Ive spoken with sunlight supply techs several times about the SS2, XXXL's & the newest Blockbusters...


the XXXL's light isn't as focused & concentrated like the SS2's and Blockbusters, the XXXL's are for a bigger footprint,, for instance the 8" XXXL's have a footprint for up to 5' x 6'6" and are optimally meant for shorter canopies..

SS2's and Blockbuster light is more concetrated and are better for taller canopies, meaning if your plants are 3' tall, the lower branches will recieve stronger light from the SS2 and BB's.. the 6" & 8" Blockbusters were developed optimally for a 4' x 4' area where as the SS2 works best with areas aproximately 3' x 3' or even smaller tho many many of us have sworn for years by SS2's abilities to cover a 4 x 4 with great success..

i predict that in due time peeps will be ravin about their Blockbusters !!!

 

[Dorje113]

Ive spoken with sunlight supply techs several times about the SS2, XXXL's & the newest Blockbusters...


the XXXL's light isn't as focused & concentrated like the SS2's and Blockbusters, the XXXL's are for a bigger footprint,, for instance the 8" XXXL's have a footprint for up to 5' x 6'6" and are optimally meant for shorter canopies..

SS2's and Blockbuster light is more concetrated and are better for taller canopies, meaning if your plants are 3' tall, the lower branches will recieve stronger light from the SS2 and BB's.. the 6" & 8" Blockbusters were developed optimally for a 4' x 4' area where as the SS2 works best with areas aproximately 3' x 3' or even smaller tho many many of us have sworn for years by SS2's abilities to cover a 4 x 4 with great success..

i predict that in due time peeps will be ravin about their Blockbusters !!!

Sure, but in a multi-light system the light overlaps each other and the light intensity of the xxxl's seems to be very good and does support a pretty deep canopy... 6" hoods on movers achieved 3 lb yields from 1kW HPS bulbs in about 25 sq ft area.

I've also seen a single 8" xxxl in a 5'8" x 5' closet w/spreader and it covers the space very evenly with no hot spot. It is kicking butt, the plants are very happy and look the same whether they are under the light or on the side.

The 8" xxxl throws such a wide pattern I wonder if movers would be of much benefit....

 

[milehighmedical]

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[gus738]

quitters did you speak in phone or email? so you're saying that the xxxl's are ideal for big areas where it would cover more sqft right? now since its not made to be concentrated can we improve this by using the 1'k's daisy chain (overlapped side by side etc) Say in the amount of (4) 1k's?

reason i ask is because i have a 7x5x8 flower room that i feel confident should fit the magnum 6" x 4 of them

i also making a veg which is close by inches of 4x5x8 i plan on doing (2) 1k's or (4) 600w which works best for veg? oh wait in 600w mh ???

or would it be best if i have 4 blockbusters in 1k's would this be better then 4 magnums 1k's? i want busy plants have a 12 or 16 site on the aerojet 4 tray so which route works best for me?
y hoping to get these as huge as i can

Ive spoken with sunlight supply techs several times about the SS2, XXXL's & the newest Blockbusters...


the XXXL's light isn't as focused & concentrated like the SS2's and Blockbusters, the XXXL's are for a bigger footprint,, for instance the 8" XXXL's have a footprint for up to 5' x 6'6" and are optimally meant for shorter canopies..

SS2's and Blockbuster light is more concetrated and are better for taller canopies, meaning if your plants are 3' tall, the lower branches will recieve stronger light from the SS2 and BB's.. the 6" & 8" Blockbusters were developed optimally for a 4' x 4' area where as the SS2 works best with areas aproximately 3' x 3' or even smaller tho many many of us have sworn for years by SS2's abilities to cover a 4 x 4 with great success..

i predict that in due time peeps will be ravin about their Blockbusters !!!

mile where the reflector test that you read? also on the 8" is that all the feedback because i think i might need 8 instead of 6 or unless blockbusters/ss2 are better for my route.i never seen 1500w is that a single bulb?

I have a couple of the 6" XXXL's and they have to be the best hoods I've ever used. They're just a pain in the ass to move around because of their size. But that's to be expected. I bought them after they were tested in the reflector test thread. I originally got an 8" but it wouldn't fit in my 5x5 with enough clearance, had to bring it back. After some research I found out that 6" is definitely the better choice. I believe an 8" xxxl is perfect for a 1500w hps, but a bit too big otherwise. Apparently the light loss through the larger duct openings is actually significant as well.

 

[9240GrnMachine]

ive used all the hoods mentioned.. for my scenario the radient 8 is the best... the xxxl are good for vegging if you are butting the hoods up to each other. you can lower these things down pretty close to the plants, but they arent that bright, due to the light spread. i can get the same results with t5s actually.... as for flowering, i dont feel like they are potent enough... i use 2 radients per 4x8 area. by the way, i have 14 of those magnums that i want to get rid of... any takers?? really dont like them..

 

[gus738]

you are in Colorado that thing cost alot to ship, so you feel they fail due to the fact that they are made to spread light out?


even with the 1k's would that be bright?

what other reflector would work for me based on my route? i see you mentioned radiant but what was the reason it benefits you ?


Also for the hoods if budget was open ended what is best ? all being hooked up with 1k in 7x5x8

* temps ac dehumidifier etc will be taken in to considerations

 

[milehighmedical]

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[gus738]

thank you i very much appreciate this info, i have no use getting the 8" thanks and side note on 1500w ok they make the ballast but what about the bulbs?


now as far as cooling well that has to be done but besides the air flow being less how else can you compare them ? and you disregarded the ss2 are they not still available new at hydro shops?

going to do passive air from the bottom make holes or square put bug screen . exhaust hot air on top from the hoods and another exhaust for room. and air intake as well? would this be ideal?

check out my thread thanks

 

[milehighmedical]

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[gus738]

i know they make 600w bulbs but in mh? and good brands like hortuli

also theirs a misunderstanding the bug screen is only for the passive air in but i do plan on having carbon thing

and i have plan 2 exhaust , one for the air cooled lights and the other to exhaust the room.

does that sound right? also i plan on getting 2 ac units.

air in will be passive.

They definitely make the bulbs too, no doubt, haha.

I never bothered looking at the ss2 after seeing the lumens test results. I like the magnums, always will, very unlikely that I'll ever switch reflectors again. Very unlikely. The block buster doesn't really appeal to me either, just not interested in switching reflectors. I'm completely fulfilled.

Bug screen will hold you over, but if/when you can afford it, try to get a big ole HEPA filter on your intake. Even if it's passive.

I also hope you're planning on having carbon filters on each of your multiple exhausts. I personally pull cold air in from outside to blow across my lights, but I keep it sealed from the rest of the room. Not just so I don't need another filter, but it cools the lights a lot better then the hot air in the room. Then I normally have an A/C, but if I don't... or in my veg room I just exhaust through the top, but never without a filter.

 

[milehighmedical]

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[gus738]

bingo this is what i was worried, so if conversion bulbs are significantly worse then regular mh then i either need to get several 400w mh or how many 1k's? i think 2 1k's is fine but are they needed on movers? i will be putting passive air for each room individually and as well as each room will have its own ac.

i guess i can keep in mind about the light movers on the list if theirs left over cash for equipment.

and the hepa filter where will they be placed also on air purifers i can get those oreck air purifiers or those tower purifiers, they have em in costco.

do those work?

and my room is going to be sealed up im making rooms, see my sig
also since im adding ac you're saying i dont need venting? as in no outside air or as in no fans? because i think the ac is because the heat build up despite of air cooled ducting on reflectors.

i do want to add co2 as well

if you wish do you prefer continuing in my thread or here is fine?

The 600 watt MH bulbs that are available are conversion bulbs, which are significantly less efficient. If you want MH for veg then either have multiple 400 MH or half as many 1k MH on movers. The truth is you'll veg just fine under HPS if you're strapped for cash.

Well yes, and the bug screen helps. But eventually get your hands on a HEPA filter because all kinds of things can get into your room through a bug screen... HEPA filters not for smell. It keeps the room clean by keeping the air clean.

As for using an A/C while ventilating the whole room... not so effective. (Think A/C on in the car, with the windows down on the high way) If you're going to spend money on two a/c's then you might want to look into sealing the room up and putting in CO2. A bottle, regulator and monitor might not break the bank.

 

[gus738]

can anybody answer my questions

can anybody answer my questions

i would appreciate it

quitters did you speak in phone or email? so you're saying that the xxxl's are ideal for big areas where it would cover more sqft right?

now since magnum's are not made to be concentrated on a footprint in terms of intensity but maybe i can we improve this by using the 1'k's daisy chain (overlapped side by side etc) Say in the amount of (4) 1k's? but 2 on one duct and 2 another duct but in each corner. so its like 4 reflectors evenly placed in the room.

would this have the same effect as the other reflectors so in other words does this make up for the so called loss of intensity footprint.

reason i ask is because in the 7x5x8 flower room i think that i feel confident should fit the magnum 6" x 4 of them but since i can place quite a few reflectors thats why im looking to see what reflector is better regardless if its meant for intense footprint or even light spread. hope this make sense

so the plan is doing (2) 1k's rather then the 600w because the mh on 1k's are significantly better for the use of mh due to conversion bulbs on 600w. so would that work best for veg?

or would it be best if i have 4(maybe more?) blockbusters in 1k's would this be better then 4 magnums 1k's? i want busy plants have a 12 or 16 site on the botanicare aerojet 4 tray aeroponics system so which route works best for me?
y hoping to get these as huge as i can
so would blockbusters/ss2 are better for my route or magnum
cooling can be made with ac/fans/venting co2 etc