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rocky5
i had this on some of my plants when i tried to grow in soil
and they more or less died once this took hold,now im in coco
and here it is again.
what is it and how can i treat it,please.
i had this on some of my plants when i tried to grow in soil
and they more or less died once this took hold,now im in coco
and here it is again.
what is it and how can i treat it,please.
Rocky fill in the sick plant guide from stiches sticky^^^^^^^...the more info you give the more chance of someone helping bro...
giving as much info as poss= people dont need to ask as meny questions....
i will come back in afetr my work and have a we look for ya
keep it green
highlander
giving as much info as poss= people dont need to ask as meny questions....
i will come back in afetr my work and have a we look for ya
keep it green
highlander
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rocky5
How long has this problem been going on?
couple of days since switch to flower
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
cant remember name of flower tent but had succesfull grows in it
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
coco 2x4 pot wilmas
What STRAIN are you growing?
ugorg killerskunk affected only
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
1-2 month veg 3 days flower
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
just potted up before flower 2 weeks roughly
How tall are the plants?
2-3 foot just been super cropped
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
just starting flower
What Technique are you using?
coco/hydro
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
coco
What is the Water temperature?
dont know but room temp is 25 c water isnt rediculosly cold or hot
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
white
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless)
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
flairform greendream part one veg and flower,they are on an ec of 0.8 flower nutes at the mo switched on sunday 2 days ago
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank".
ec0.8-1.0 for first week of flower ph 5.8
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?
evry time i go in the tent
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?
yes
When was your last watering?
water every day
What is your water temps?
dont know room temp is 25c
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
yesterday switched from veg to bloom,problem was already creeping in before this
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
weekly occasionaly let it slip
What size bulb are you using?
2x600w 1x400w
How old is the bulbs you are using?
just swaping bulbs
What is the distance to the canopy?
got them raised up a bit the now and im lowering gradualy over the week.
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
49%
What is the canopy temperature?25-30c
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
day lowest 16c night highest 30c
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
8 inch extract 6 inch input on 24/7
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
circulating fan is
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
ph 7.o
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
tap
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
ec of my tap water is 0.0
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?
no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
just been super cropped and topped
Are plant's infected with pest's
no
couple of days since switch to flower
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
cant remember name of flower tent but had succesfull grows in it
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
coco 2x4 pot wilmas
What STRAIN are you growing?
ugorg killerskunk affected only
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
1-2 month veg 3 days flower
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
just potted up before flower 2 weeks roughly
How tall are the plants?
2-3 foot just been super cropped
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
just starting flower
What Technique are you using?
coco/hydro
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
coco
What is the Water temperature?
dont know but room temp is 25 c water isnt rediculosly cold or hot
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
white
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless)
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
flairform greendream part one veg and flower,they are on an ec of 0.8 flower nutes at the mo switched on sunday 2 days ago
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using
What is the pH of the "Tank".
ec0.8-1.0 for first week of flower ph 5.8
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS?
evry time i go in the tent
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment?
yes
When was your last watering?
water every day
What is your water temps?
dont know room temp is 25c
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
yesterday switched from veg to bloom,problem was already creeping in before this
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
weekly occasionaly let it slip
What size bulb are you using?
2x600w 1x400w
How old is the bulbs you are using?
just swaping bulbs
What is the distance to the canopy?
got them raised up a bit the now and im lowering gradualy over the week.
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
49%
What is the canopy temperature?25-30c
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
day lowest 16c night highest 30c
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
8 inch extract 6 inch input on 24/7
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
circulating fan is
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
ph 7.o
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
tap
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
ec of my tap water is 0.0
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?
no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
just been super cropped and topped
Are plant's infected with pest's
no
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rocky5
ive been searching all over and im going to have a stab at it,
i think it is magnesium def and im going to see if i can get cal mag to treat it.
the only other thing that i think it may be is lsf but i need to wait till tonight to get
a fresh leaf to check under the microscope (didnt think about using it last night
)
so if im on the wrong path let us know people
i will wait to see what you say aswell Highlander
rocky5
i think it is magnesium def and im going to see if i can get cal mag to treat it.
the only other thing that i think it may be is lsf but i need to wait till tonight to get
a fresh leaf to check under the microscope (didnt think about using it last night
)so if im on the wrong path let us know people
i will wait to see what you say aswell Highlander
rocky5
first.. ,,your ph is to high you need to bring it down to 6.0/6.2...from the look of the pics and the info i will go with phosphorus probs,,,...
you need to get your night time temps stable, with your ph at 7.0 and cold night temps the plants not getting what she needs, eg locking out the phosphorus
(nothing to do with you prob but.)
point your fan away from your ladys,,thay can still get burnt/heatstress from the constent hot air pounding down on top of them,,...eg point it towards the wall and let the air rush over/around the room....
i aint no expert though, so if more people want to add, you more than welcome,,but i would start with getting your PH& night time temps sorted
keep it green
highlander
you need to get your night time temps stable, with your ph at 7.0 and cold night temps the plants not getting what she needs, eg locking out the phosphorus
(nothing to do with you prob but.)
point your fan away from your ladys,,thay can still get burnt/heatstress from the constent hot air pounding down on top of them,,...eg point it towards the wall and let the air rush over/around the room....
i aint no expert though, so if more people want to add, you more than welcome,,but i would start with getting your PH& night time temps sorted
keep it green
highlander
Kush Farmer
Member
pH is my first guess. When the leaves start to shrivel and deform it is usually a sign of pH and you have it listed as 7.0. You should be in a range of about 5.8 to 6.2. I keep it right at 6.0 in the first weeks of flower and let it creep to a max of 6.5ish by harvest. If your pH isn't stable it may be a sign of bigger problems.
Kush Farmer
Member
Good eye on the pH. the only thing I would add is to not change your nutrients until you fix your pH. The pH being off effects the nutrient uptake. Your feeding schedual may be fine but the plants can't take in the nutes needed because of pH problems.
ive been searching all over and im going to have a stab at it,
i think it is magnesium def and im going to see if i can get cal mag to treat it.
the only other thing that i think it may be is lsf but i need to wait till tonight to get
a fresh leaf to check under the microscope (didnt think about using it last night
so if im on the wrong path let us know people
i will wait to see what you say aswell Highlander
rocky5
bro your the magnesium could be cool......again magnesium is best absorbed at level of 5.8/9.1 BUT dont recommend haveing a ph over 6.5.....eg your ph is 7......
am telling you bro sort your ph out and all will come good (well and not tellg you to do it lol)
keep it green
highlander
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rocky5
sorry guys i must have posted the ph wrong it is at 5.8
see what you think now,sorry again for the mis info.
i just looked again its the tap water that is ph7.0
see what you think now,sorry again for the mis info.
i just looked again its the tap water that is ph7.0
whats the ph after youve added the feed to the water?,,,,
keep it green
highlander
keep it green
highlander
Kush Farmer
Member
What the pH of the runoff water not the nutrient mix? I still say pH.
Edit: HIGHlander- great minds think alike lol
Edit: HIGHlander- great minds think alike lol
yip i still say PH...if you ph is at 5.8 your falling real close to lock out on magnesium & other nutes...maybe your actual ph is 5.7/5.8 what are you testing the ph with?. pen, strips?......
OH 1 more...how bad is it?
keep it green
highlander
OH 1 more...how bad is it?
keep it green
highlander
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rocky5
alright highlander mate,the ph after feed is 5.8
im going to get the temps sorted back out ive got a little 100w clothes
dryer/rack that i used to keep them warm in winter i turned it off as its getting
a bit warmer and the plants that had this in soil could have been because of cold
now that i think about it,i didnt have the heater then.
do you think i should get the cal mag and use it or does it look like something else?
and the temps probibarly locked the good stuff out so now i need to put the
correct stuff back in if im understanding correctley?
what is a good covering nute/mineral to put in?
thanks for all replys so far.
testing ph with a pen with ph just recentley calibrated.
its not to bad at the mo but i was saying that the last time picking leaves off
every day just creeping in more.
im going to get the temps sorted back out ive got a little 100w clothes
dryer/rack that i used to keep them warm in winter i turned it off as its getting
a bit warmer and the plants that had this in soil could have been because of cold
now that i think about it,i didnt have the heater then.
do you think i should get the cal mag and use it or does it look like something else?
and the temps probibarly locked the good stuff out so now i need to put the
correct stuff back in if im understanding correctley?
what is a good covering nute/mineral to put in?
thanks for all replys so far.
testing ph with a pen with ph just recentley calibrated.
its not to bad at the mo but i was saying that the last time picking leaves off
every day just creeping in more.
Yea, PH or too many bloom nutes, too early.
I would give them a week or so to recover with very minimal nute-strenght, if any, altho in hydro they might need a little. Try giving them straight PH'd water for a couple of days, might freshen them up. From there on you can give minimal nutes and work your way up.
Superthrive should be a great additive, altho it might not be good right now, pure PHd water for some days, is my advice.
Like HIGHlander writes, you need to get temps stable, 30 is a little too much for some. 24 is more like it. When you water they like to have lukewarm water, 20-23 degrees or so.
I would give them a week or so to recover with very minimal nute-strenght, if any, altho in hydro they might need a little. Try giving them straight PH'd water for a couple of days, might freshen them up. From there on you can give minimal nutes and work your way up.
Superthrive should be a great additive, altho it might not be good right now, pure PHd water for some days, is my advice.
Like HIGHlander writes, you need to get temps stable, 30 is a little too much for some. 24 is more like it. When you water they like to have lukewarm water, 20-23 degrees or so.
flush her out and just start ya feed again...you can add cal-meg if you like (it wont harm her) just make sure you ph is the same
...i use canna PK13/14 that seems to work for me,,,but dont use it every feeding.......get the temps up ( i could have the same heater lol) and see how she does over the next few days
...i will keep an eye on the thread
keep it green
highlander
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rocky5
i will do as you say mate,i will throw up a pic of the heater later after bed time
for a laugh.its acctualy quite good it hugs round a wilma system quite nice.
for a laugh.its acctualy quite good it hugs round a wilma system quite nice.
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rocky5
here is a pic under the micro and also a pic of my heater,
i will stick the heater back in before lights off again.
i will stick the heater back in before lights off again.
