spindlywicket
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No they don't
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Fastest Germination=Strongest Plant? Any Idea's, Please?
- Thread starter Balarama67
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No they don't
BY (M+E ROSE).
Preflowering.
In the week or two prior to flowering and throughout flowering, many common marijuana varieties follow two general growth patterns which depend on gender. With these varieties, you can tell gender by the spacing between the leaves (internodes). For the female, the emphasis is on compact growth. Each new leaf grows closer to the last, until the top of the plant is obscured by tightly knit leaves. The male elongates just prior to showing flowers. New growth is spaced well apart and raises the male to a taller stature. This may by the first time the male shows its classic tall, loosely arranged profile.
Balarama67
Member
Hopefully not to add fuel to the flames...(really)
I'm sure I read someplace official (like horticulture research) that male plants
grow taller so that their pollen is spread further atop the females for greater
rates of fertilisation, as it starts higher, and then drops further as a consequence.
I'm sure I read someplace official (like horticulture research) that male plants
grow taller so that their pollen is spread further atop the females for greater
rates of fertilisation, as it starts higher, and then drops further as a consequence.
Males tend to be taller/thinner and females shorter/wider but it's hardly carved in stone. There are runts and giants in every crowd.
Crispywaffle
Member
Crispywaffle
Member
thanks Luda. you otay bro.Yes always. This is a known fact.
There is a document i have and i can sex plants in veg due to many grows and i am never wrong but i always wait for the male traits to show before binning them.
LUDA.
I can't smoke a bone . Evertyhing is vape from now on. Doctors orders.Hey grafeful Ty for my get well vape. You and M fuckin rock...cw
I hope you get well soon and are doing OK.
(best wishes).
And who is "M" ???
LUDA.
FASTEST HASSLE FREE/SAFEST AND GUARANTEED.
Starting your seeds.
Okay to all you paper towel heads and water nuts.
I have been saying this for a long time now but found a site which states it nicely. Read this and don't lose any more of your precious seeds needlessly.
For an optimal germination result the seeds should be planted DIRECTLY into the substrate. We clearly advise against using pre-germination methods or soaking. Please do not place the seeds into a glass of water or in moist paper tissues. Fresh and healthy seeds prefer a nurturing and airy substrate to germinate in – just as mother nature has meant it to be. Cannabis is a plant species originating from semi-arid and temperate biotopes and the vast majority of modern cannabis hybrids contain a substantial percentage of these genetics. Cannabis seeds are not adapted to swampy wetlands, but they are suited for germinating in well drained soil/substrate. In nature they rot if they fall into a puddle of water...and there are no paper tissues lying around either. Taking into account these botanical facts, it is quite logical that by creating germination conditions that are similar to those of the natural habitat one can expect the best results.
What happens if one uses pre-germination methods?.
1. Soaking seeds in water/wet paper towels is a method which can be used for old seeds (3+ years) that are drying up and losing germination power; and for pure land race equatorial strains such as from Africa. Both factors do not apply to our seeds. Fresh seeds have a healthy embryo whose cells are filled with water. But excess water causes the cells to bloat, depletes oxygen and leads to the tissue rotting away before the seed embryo can germinate. Old seeds have lost water in the cell tissue, the embryo starts to shrivel, which is why germination rates drop the older the seeds are. Therefore, old seeds (ie. 3+ years) can soak up more water before adverse conditions cause them to rot. This is one of the main reasons why various seed stock reacts differently to pre-germination methods. Especially novice growers make a lot of mistakes with pre-germination methods such as soaking seeds in water for up to 1-2 days. Even if one chooses to pre-germ seeds it has to be done correctly.
It is in a growers best interest to choose a germination method with the lowest risk of complications. Because we want customers to have the highest success rate possible we recommend the most convenient and safest method. This does not mean it is the only option. We simply believe it carries the lowest risk. In fact, planting seeds directly in the substrate is also the most plant friendly method for any type of seed stock. The reasons are explained below in paragraph 2 & 3.
2. Placing healthy & fresh seeds in water/wet tissue can lead to the development of fungi or bacteria on the seed hull. Lack of oxygen and contaminating substances in the water/wet tissue promote fungal growth which can be transported to the substrate later on. Often the seed simply rots away if left for too long in a glass of water, or wrapped up in wet tissue.
3. Once the seed sprouts in a glass of water or paper tissue it already has the taproot growing out of the cracked seed hull. While transplanting the germinated seed it is very difficult, indeed impossible, to prevent damage to the delicate taproot. Many sprouted seedlings handled in this way show retarded development, or even simply fail to appear out of the substrate after transplantation. Handling seedlings this way can impair the health & vigour of the plant for the duration of it’s life cycle - especially if other disturbing factors occur during the early stages of growth.
Professional horticulturists rarely use pre-germination methods to actually grow out the seedlings because of the shock suffered from transplanting them. For example, we use the paper tissue method only as a quick test for germination rates of aged seed stock from our genetic repository. This allows us to see beforehand how many seeds we have to put in soil to get the amount of plants we require for breeding projects.
Germinating cannabis seeds is not difficult. All you need is some basic information on what is important and everything should work out fine.
LUDA.
good post
not true...
also not true but in general, yes.
BY (M+E ROSE).
Preflowering.
In the week or two prior to flowering and throughout flowering, many common marijuana varieties follow two general growth patterns which depend on gender. With these varieties, you can tell gender by the spacing between the leaves (internodes). For the female, the emphasis is on compact growth. Each new leaf grows closer to the last, until the top of the plant is obscured by tightly knit leaves. The male elongates just prior to showing flowers. New growth is spaced well apart and raises the male to a taller stature. This may by the first time the male shows its classic tall, loosely arranged profile.
Sorry to repost this article if you have read it already.
THANKS.
LUDA.
Preflowering.
In the week or two prior to flowering and throughout flowering, many common marijuana varieties follow two general growth patterns which depend on gender. With these varieties, you can tell gender by the spacing between the leaves (internodes). For the female, the emphasis is on compact growth. Each new leaf grows closer to the last, until the top of the plant is obscured by tightly knit leaves. The male elongates just prior to showing flowers. New growth is spaced well apart and raises the male to a taller stature. This may by the first time the male shows its classic tall, loosely arranged profile.
Sorry to repost this article if you have read it already.
THANKS.
LUDA.
Crispywaffle
Member
Hey Luda..Thank you for the good wishes my friendI hope you get well soon and are doing OK.
(best wishes).
And who is "M" ???
LUDA.
Grateful and M are really good friends of mine. They really do rock. They sent me a hf Vaporbrothers hands free vaporizer to get well with. . It only hurts at 2 different times....when I breath in and when I breath out...lol
Its all good. I woke up today and did"t t see dirt , thats a good day in my book. ...........cw
Exellent. Take it easy and get well soon and if there is anything you need to know or want to read just let me know and i will do my best.
Keep your chin up mate and i am sure you will be fine.
(best wishes).
LUDA.
Hey Crispy I would like to send you my best of wishes for your health. I would like to state just for the sake of argument that I have nothing inportant to add but lol. Not all males are bad. If we only grow females then we wouldnt have males to make some (even if it is a little amount) seeds for the future. I am in a place where I cant have anything shipped to me for security reasons. Well enough said. I would like to say Take care and be safe.
A known fact?
Then explain why the shortest of my 12 Princess Diesel F2's is male?
Stay Safe!
id love to now were you get your "Facts",Everything you call a fact Means shit to most it can basically be thrown in the garbage .There is many more experianced growers here.Sorry to burst your bubble Your not as smart as you think you are,And IMO you give more bad advice than good,Your theory on male plants is BS didn't i have to do a 1 day poll cuz you didnt have the balls ?Put a sock in it
#id love to now were you get your "Facts",Everything you call a fact Means shit to most it can basically be thrown in the garbage .There is many more experianced growers here.Sorry to burst your bubble Your not as smart as you think you are,And IMO you give more bad advice than good,Your theory on male plants is BS didn't i have to do a 1 day poll cuz you didnt have the balls ?Put a sock in it
Please stop following me around.
id love to now were you get your "Facts",Everything you call a fact Means shit to most it can basically be thrown in the garbage .There is many more experianced growers here.Sorry to burst your bubble Your not as smart as you think you are,And IMO you give more bad advice than good,Your theory on male plants is BS didn't i have to do a 1 day poll cuz you didnt have the balls ?Put a sock in it
Ludacris has been told to stop the arguing, and now you're being told the same thing. This negativity/rudeness lately between members is going to stop....
MrFlyinHigh
Member
Too many negative Nancy's
Fastest Germ does not mean strongest plant, i had bean that crack open and start going with in a few days after planted,
IMHO the best way to germ the seed is just plant them. what i do is soak em, drop them in rapid rooter, in a dome. The next day they will start going, of course older seeds will need a bit of help since they are OLD
Anything is possible in this universe, nothing is certain beside death and tax. Male seem to have a better and faster growing rate, but saying they always do is not true, i've had lots of males stay small while their sisters take off like there's no tomorrow
Good luck and stay safe
cheers,
red.
IMHO the best way to germ the seed is just plant them. what i do is soak em, drop them in rapid rooter, in a dome. The next day they will start going, of course older seeds will need a bit of help since they are OLD
Anything is possible in this universe, nothing is certain beside death and tax. Male seem to have a better and faster growing rate, but saying they always do is not true, i've had lots of males stay small while their sisters take off like there's no tomorrow
Good luck and stay safe
cheers,
red.
