Bone and Blood Meal = Rodent magnet!! DAMN!!!

[hgl]

We planted some clones outside about 1 week ago...

We putted some Bone and Blood Meal into our dirt mix. We thought the spot was not susceptible for rodent so we added the bone and blood meal anyway.... we regret!

Since then, the plant are dig each day!

We think it is a marmot since we say one close the other day.

What do you suggest to stop this bitch from digging our spot???

We cannot put metal grid since it would not be stealth as it is now.

I bought a animal repellent... should work on dogs, cat, marmot, skunk, etc.

I'll ask my girlfriend to give me some hair (she is Hair stylish) and we'll spread it around the plant + the repellent + we gonna take some pee-pee around...

What suggestion do you have?

 

[Green Supreme]

Don't forget bears, that stuff will draw bears too. Good luck. Peace GS

 

[hgl]

I don't think bears will be an issue where they currently are!

But thanks for the warning...

I'll never use that shit again outdoor... damnit. about 17 plants are "endangered!"

 

[Guiness]

Some fellow in another thread had his destroyed by turkey vultures. He even had cages and they mobbed the cages to get to the protein smell.

Not good for outdoors. Needs to be talked about more.

 

[hgl]

Some fellow in another thread had his destroyed by turkey vultures. He even had cages and they mobbed the cages to get to the protein smell.

Not good for outdoors. Needs to be talked about more.

Yeah... this is why I made this thread...

to warn every people out there that plan to use this fertilizer... use something else since this is a magnet!!

 

[JOJO420]

Advice for nooby's

Advice for nooby's

I know I should not do this I cant resist, HAHAHAHAH I cannot believe you did this, hahahah NOOB.

C'mon bro if you r on ICmag since 2006 and you did this, NOOB.

USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, learn how to grow before you "endanger" anymore plants and possibly yourself. I say this cause obviously you love the plant, and we all love success. good luck

 

[hgl]

Well the thing is that I thought in small quantities it wouldn't do nothing... and that the spot was like "rodent free".... it's not the case...

Now what could I do? Does the hair + animal repellent + pee-pee will be enough? Or do I have to dig all the dirt and put some new dirt ?

EDIT... Does putting other blood and bone meal in another place a bit further my plan will convert the rodent to this spot?

 

[JOJO420]

advice

advice

If I were you, here is what I would do. My holes are lined with gopher wire. That is small gauge wire with small holes. It prevents the animals from digging into your root ball from below the ground. Next step is to use other types of fertilizer. try guano's or mineral type fertilizer. Animals will never bother those types of ferts.

Remember to dig wider than deeper. 2 ft deep, BUT 5 FT WIDE. Trust me ,watch what happens next. HUGE PLANTS.
If you only planted one week ago, dig them up and line your holes with gopher wire NOW. Put the dirt back in and replant.
Or go find another spot close by and start from scratch.

 

[TicalionStalion]

atleast u gave him some good advise instead of just bashing him and calling him a noob! LOL. I was like "damn, what a butthole" haha. good advise tho, I would totally follow it.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

hey hgl

Sorry buddy. I had the same thing happen before i learned better. Guerilla growers just cant hardly use organics. If the plants are indoors or in your yard or in a greenhouse, go for it, but outdoors where skunks, oppossoms, mink and everything else lives, its a absolute no no.


The cure: Get some chicken wire or similar mesh type metal screen. cut an appropriate size square, cut a hole in the center of the square for the plant' main stem and then install the screen around the plant, pin it to the ground and cover lightly with soil. When the critter digs, it hits the wire mesh and cant go deeper. He can still tare the plant all to hell trying to dig so.....

I also sometimes pile dinner plate sized rocks around my plant. The animal isnt strrong enough to move the rocks and dig.


More bad news buddy. There isnt a single effective animal repellant in the entire world. Deer away, Animal repellant and every other brand, moth balls, piss, hair, shit and everything else is pure bullshit. Ive used and tried every concievable deterent from pissing, pulling my dogs hair out, plastic noismakers to sprays and in many years, ive found nothing that works.

Cages.

Good luck.

 

[.clunk]

I've also learnt my lesson using organic nutrients in this situation in the past - some seasons I could go the whole year without a single problem, then the next I had bears and rodents galore...it's simply not worth the risk and I now use chemical fertilizers (I have had a bear eat a bucket of chem nutes though, but he was pretty crazed - he also ate a can of spray paint, a water time, a bag of epsom salts and much more!).

 

[mostnonymouse]

Yea anyone using that stuff outdoors really should mix up their soil in the winter or fall...or at least a couple months ahead of time. It'll begin to break down and the smell will dissipate. I had 6 plants hit by diggers but only lost one (it was just a little runt of a seedling). One was snapped but I just stuck a stick in the soil and tied it back up and now it's one of my best plants. I've had holes dug into the day after spraying coyote piss.

 

[mrred]

if you mix it 2+ weeks before you put it out, wont that stop animals from trying to get at it?

 

[mostnonymouse]

if you mix it 2+ weeks before you put it out, wont that stop animals from trying to get at it?

that's what I thought too. Didn't work here...and I only used a mixed fert with bone meal as one of it's ingredients at half strength. They were out WELL over a month before they stopped digging.

 

[stratmandu]

Yeah if you're mixing soil to put out now, skip it. Once its broken down by letting a mix sit and cook a couple months in advance, its good to use. However, if going organic outdoors, a previous poster is correct in my experience: stick with guanos and minerals. Guanos are very funky, I can't see anything wanting to eat that. My dog will roll in it if you don't stop him when mixing it up. PSB or hi-N Mex bat guanos will add the nitrogen instead of the blood meal, and kelp, indo bat guano, and green sand will make up for the P in the bone meal. Nothing has dug this up so far. I lost some plants recently to hogs, but they ate the whole plant and did not root up the hole. I do not use chem ferts ever.

 

[geopolitical]

Compost & worm poop if you need to use organics outside. They won't attract jack. I've had issues with blood & bonemeal in the past with similar problems, even with a substantial breakdown wait period (but my climate is very cold).

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

i use blood meal every year. it's not just the blood meal. it's the loose dirt as well. it attracts all kinds of curious creatures. you should invest in some green plastic garden fencing. it will also keep rabbits from chewing on your stalks when the plants are mature.

 

[apartmentblower]

anyone have issues with marine based compost with no detectable smell?

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

I mixed my dirt in my yard with organics in august. In november, i worked it into my planting holes.( I should have taken notice that in february, 1/2 the dirt had been dug out of the hole), then planted late April. Within 2 weeks every plant i had was dug up.

Preparing the soil the year before didnt help me one bit. I may as well have dumped it on the ground around the plant at planting time.