Are these crossed seeds AUTO?

[Sandnut]

The male is an Auto AK47 crossed with Pakistan Ryder female, (Both autoflowering strains) Unfortunately the Pakistan Ryder where really bad, outta 10 seeds, only 3 where actually "auto flowering" But only the auto's where used in the breeding..

does this make the seeds 100% auto?



thx...

 

[Sandnut]

lapdance in webcam for whom solve this , haha jk

 

[mossy]

Kinda hard one.
I have seen quite a few of the Pakistan Ryder being reported as non-af..

I would say your best bet is to get some test patches out and see.

 

[Sandnut]

unfortunately i dont have time to check this, cause i was planning to buy these seeds from another guy,really need to know, would be a catastrophy if i bought a whole load and they all screw up

 

[mossy]

Damn...

I have had real Good % AF results mixing a full AF to long season..
BUT..if you NEED 100% AF...I wouldn't like to second guess it...

as I say PR worries me..and I haven't seen enough of them out to make a reliable prediction.

IMO..
what I have seen up to now..your friends figures would say only about 25% AF..

BUT..I haven't grown her out myself..one of the other guys that has grown her might be able to give you a better guesstimate.

All I can say is..AF or NON-AF..she is a good looking girl.

would be a catastrophy if i bought a whole load and they all screw up

It would worry me.

 

[Sandnut]

Damn...

I have had real Good % AF results mixing a full AF to long season..
BUT..if you NEED 100% AF...I wouldn't like to second guess it...

as I say PR worries me..and I haven't seen enough of them out to make a reliable prediction.

IMO..
what I have seen up to now..I would say only about 25% AF..

BUT..I haven't grown her out myself..one of the other guys that has grown her might be able to give you a better guesstimate.

All I can say is..AF or NON-AF..she is a good looking girl.



It would worry me.

Yeah, its a hard one.. dont know what to do yet, ill have to wait and see if anyone has any experience from PR or know this for sure, but i find it very odd that they actually sell auto seeds that arent actually 100% auto (Duuhh)

Btw i left you a PM !

 

[paulo73]

I think so

I think so

HI there Sandnut!
I´ve bought a pack of 3 fem Paki Ryders from WoS, 1st time with wos beans, and all 3 look healthy and the same exact pheno.
I´m not 100%sure, but it´s on my diary, but from the top of my head i think that they all showed sex before day 20 and resin started to show last week.
Dont know your PR but i would cross any of my PR ladys anytime

My Pakistani Ryders

All the best for all your projects
Peace and Light to us all

 

[Sandnut]

HI there Sandnut!
I´ve bought a pack of 3 fem Paki Ryders from WoS, 1st time with wos beans, and all 3 look healthy and the same exact pheno.
I´m not 100%sure, but it´s on my diary, but from the top of my head i think that they all showed sex before day 20 and resin started to show last week.
Dont know your PR but i would cross any of my PR ladys anytime

My Pakistani Ryders

All the best for all your projects
Peace and Light to us all

Hi there Paulo, nice pics you've got !

Wow actually the breeder told me the Paki ryders are also from WoS, so we should be dealing with the same stuff, I find it weird that hes have failed so bad compared to yours..

Damn I really want to know now!

 

[mossy]

Wow actually the breeder told me the Paki ryders are also from WoS, so we should be dealing with the same stuff, I find it weird that hes have failed so bad compared to yours..

Yeah..that is an oddity.

Did he say that the other 7 were Definite non-af..
or did he say he only had 3 Fem af's...
or did he just have a bad germ and only 3 AF survived...?

paulo73..
She is a classy Lady.

 

[Sandnut]

Yeah..that is an oddity.

Did he say that the other 7 were Definite non-af..
or did he say he only had 3 Fem af's...
or did he just have a bad germ and only 3 AF survived...?

paulo73..
She is a classy Lady.

According to him out of 10 seeds (fem) only 3 where actually AF, others did not flower when they should have, those 3 where the ones he used for the breeding, yo u havent replied to my pm yet

 

[mossy]

I've been chasing around trying to see if I can get an idea of what % AF people are getting out of her.
It might give you a better idea.

 

[Muddy]

I had a 5 pack of Paki ryders regs last year. Four germed, 3 females and 1 male. They were grown outdoors and didn't get that big, about 8", but produced some fine smoke. All 4 auto flowered. Have some seeds I'm saving to grow indoors later this year.

 

[Sandnut]

Indeed it will, that would be something to compare with

 

[mossy]

Nearly everyone gets in on Friday..so I will ask about for you.

 

[Sandnut]

Nearly everyone gets in on Friday..so I will ask about for you.

thank you, hopeing we can solve this clue!

 

[Sandnut]

3 votes for yes; please do comment why you think so, if you have some facts supporting your opinion or maybe ur just voting for fun xD

 

[smokincheeze]

I grew out a world of seeds pakistan ryder and it did not auto after 3 months of 20/4 so I switched to 12/12 and it flowered within days. It grew very well and looked just like a christmas tree(I'll check for a pic) The smoke was just like the description says, everything was dead on but the autoflower part, but I would still buy it again.

edit: couldn't find the one of it in veg when it looked like a christmas tree, but heres a nug

 

[paulo73]

I´m not sure because seems to be at least 2kinds of PakiRyders.
3 auto girls out of 3 seeds cant be just luck in other hand all the others bad experiences cant be bad luck.
So i realy wont make any bets ob this one

 

[Sandnut]

I´m not sure because seems to be at least 2kinds of PakiRyders.
3 auto girls out of 3 seeds cant be just luck in other hand all the others bad experiences cant be bad luck.
So i realy wont make any bets ob this one

Where are the breeder wizzards when you need em...

Lets assume that we are about to cross an AUTO strain with a NON-AUTO strain, the outcome of this will be that about 30% of these seeds will be AF.

Next , This is where we are

And now lets grow these seeds ( auto x non-auto strain) and use the ones that will AF (roughly 30%) and pollinate these with another Auto strain, would these seeds have been 100% auto?


Im trying to compare the making of Auto x non auto seed cross, to this issue we have, I believe either these would have to be crossed multiple times to remove the non auto pheno ye?

Even tho id still like to believe these seeds are going to be 100% auto

Im not an indoor grower and where ill be growing these (outdoors..) its either AF baby at this late moment or they go past season and dont have time to finish flowering.. this is why this is so crucial for me grrrr im going mad


Btw as i said i suck at this, correct me if im wrong above

 

[Intern@tional]

No bets, no luck, just pure genetics. I presume, the seeds of Pakistan Ryder were f2 crosses where recessive automatic genes emerged. So the seeds that you are waiting for will be auto.

"Lets assume that we are about to cross an AUTO strain with a NON-AUTO strain, the outcome of this will be that about 30% of these seeds will be AF." - yes, but in next generation(f2)