what i've learned about lc's mix

[cosmiccowboy]

can you explain the problems you had with size.
are you ding sog?
whats your plant per sq ft?
do you have height restrictions?
what was you yield per plant with quart containers?
under what light?

the problem i had with size was my containers werent big enough..out of 10 or 12 plants i might have got an oz..dont have height restrictions but like to keep them 3 ft or under..my flowerin room is one vertical bare bulb 400 hps,with a bunch of fluoros surroundin it..

 

[Greenwich Pope]

Now the big question, do you recycle the soil? Maybe you already said that you did and I missed it, just wondering.

Hey Kush

I'm on a 4th run with recycled LC's #1 mix and it's aging like a fine wine.I veg longer than the OP and I also am a big pot man

Read, read and read some more, then apply that in practical application, then come back and read some more.


DAMN!.\

Just realized I can't post pics yet

Oh well

G.Pope

 

[mad librettist]

Bigger container = always better, always better yield per plant or square foot of space. Period.

If you imagine the volume of your canopy, calculated by tracing the outline , your container should have at least that much volume.

now where the art of growing comes in, is that some people like a slightly root-bound plant. That's an artistic choice in my book, and no one should criticize you for it.

 

[guest2012y]

I agree with Mad L.,as I am finding out that 1 gallon pots develop more troubles as far as maintaining and supporting microbiological life.
These are always my troubled pots. The bigger the better for organic soil that's for sure.

 

[NUG-JUG]

I use 15 gallon for some strains, but others seem to do better in the 5-7 gallon range for some reason. Maybe they just need less root space.

 

[guest2012y]

I use 15 gallon for some strains, but others seem to do better in the 5-7 gallon range for some reason. Maybe they just need less root space.

Definitely strain related. My BMR's want rootspace,my Durban could care less....but smaller pots make the soil biology suffer regardless of the type/strain...I'm talking 1-2 gallon pots specifically.

 

[staff11]

Yeah this is an old thread but I just grew out a couple clones that I put into flower right after they rooted. They were about 3 inches tall and ended up about 16 inches. In one gallon pots, they formed one huge solid bud, and I got almost 28 grams out of each one. These are actually 1 gallon nursery pots so really they aren't even a full gallon. If you put small plants or clones in small containers it can work. If you wait to long you will have problems if the plant outgrows the pot as I found out with other clones of the same strain when I put them in flower at around 8 inches tall. They definitely had issues and deficiency and the yield was smaller then the clones I put in at 3 inches. This was all obviously just an experiment on my part and if I ever did SOG I would put them in flower asap.

 

[SecretGardener]

i read just enough to think i could grow a good crop in 1 quart containers..NOT..need at least 6 quart buckets to have any kind of a decent harvest......this is about my 5th crop usin the mix and it's gettin better all the time..knowin what i know now,foolin with those small containers is a joke..next batch will wind up in 3 or 5 gallon buckets...also learned to not re-pot for the last time til plants have been in 12/12 for 2 weeks...doin that one thing has slowed down the stretchin and doubled the size of my buds...have had several friends say my stuff is the best they ever smoked....most mj around here is mexican dirt weed or whatever you call it...if you really want to learn how to grow maryjane,read that beginners thread 2 or 3 times from beginning to end..that and a little experience will do the trick..

Haha man I learned this the hard way too! I was hoping to conserve space by using small containers but it ended up hurting my final yields. I moved to 3 gallon containers and what a huge difference...if you want to conserve space and use smaller containers and still get good yields use some sort of smart pot or air pot.

 

[NUG-JUG]

My first grow was 12\12 from seed they finished in 12 oz. 7-up bottles, rootbound as all hell and burned to boot..

 

[BurnOne]

Just a note here...
If you use a 3.8 cubic foot bale of Premiere Canadian peat, ProMix BX or ProMix HP (my favorite) with the blood/bone/kelp (Recipe#1) it will fill a 55 gallon barrel. Always use a clean barrel, not one that stored chemicals.
I mix enough powdered dolomite lime, blood, bone and kelp for 55 gallons of mix. Then I use a 3 qt. saucepan to dip out the fluffed up peat, worm castings and perlite in the proper proportions. Then sprinkle in a little nute mix as I go.
You can get very close this way. If you can get two 55 gallon barrels, you can move the complete mix from one barrel to the other barrel one saucepan at a time and have a well blended mix.
I know that's a lot of work initially, but all you will need to do for the rest of the grow is water with worm casting tea and molasses.
Easy!
HTH
Burn1

 

[guest2012y]

Yeah this is an old thread but I just grew out a couple clones that I put into flower right after they rooted. They were about 3 inches tall and ended up about 16 inches. In one gallon pots, they formed one huge solid bud, and I got almost 28 grams out of each one. These are actually 1 gallon nursery pots so really they aren't even a full gallon. If you put small plants or clones in small containers it can work. If you wait to long you will have problems if the plant outgrows the pot as I found out with other clones of the same strain when I put them in flower at around 8 inches tall. They definitely had issues and deficiency and the yield was smaller then the clones I put in at 3 inches. This was all obviously just an experiment on my part and if I ever did SOG I would put them in flower asap.

Very true....A smaller plant will do fine in a 1 gal pot...yet I'm not one to accept a small plant in my space even if it's coming out of a 1 gal pot. The type/strain does have a lot to do with overall root development. Hybrid vigor up top means hybrid vigor 90% of the time in the roots as well. I have a Durban that will grow into a giant bush in a 1 gallon pot....and if I stuck a BMR in the same pot even at 3 inches,it will most likely be root bound before finish.
I've been running around 25 types in flower and started to noticed the performance of these types at the size they went into flower. I also noticed that througout running each type a few times,each type began to suffer due to the whole rootbound/small area for microlife to exist/and strain issue. So it is possible to get good results using an organic living soil in 1 gal pots,but there are indeed more problems associated with doing so in larger gardens ...Here's some pix of better looking plants in 1 gal pots...I don't have any pix of the crappy suffering plants because those were just to fugging ugly to even think about taking pix of....but there were more of the ugly's than the good ones. I never have issues if I just use bigger pots with every type/strain.
Here's a PPP in a 1 gallon pot. The buds were as big bigger than beer cans and the plant was over two feet tall.

Here's an LVPK in a 1 gallon pot that never flinched at being in that 1 gallon pot this one time,but the next few times she didn't like it...she was over two feet tall as well.

Here's another PPP beginning to suffer in a 1 gal pot with at least 3 more weeks to go.

 

[staff11]

Nice pics Cap. Yeah I had some fugly ones myself so it is true that it can be strain dependent.