Need a lil help with cloning a rose bush.

[Cookie monster]

We all love our plants and some have a special meaning to us.

The rose I seem unable to clone was a cutting my mother took from from a bush in my grandfathers garden 27 years ago , she was an amazingly talented gardener who sadly died a few years back.
My grandfather has not got long left and long story short this rose was their favourite flower.



Nobody can remember which variety it is except that's it's an old fashioned cottage rose, when it's in full bloom it's scent is overpowering.

I've tried every sort of medium and rooting hormone known to man without success.
If anybody has any experience in cloning older roses I would be eternally grateful for any pointers.

On a less important issue, my cordaline austeralis was hammered by the winter when the night time temps plunged to a record -14c.
It literally froze solid for about a month, when spring came it started to rot so the top 15 feet were cut off and the remaining stumps were treated with an antifungal solution.
No sign of any new growth, has this happened to any of you guys? and how long did yours take to show signs of life?

Stay safe n happy all.

 

[fishheadbob]

An old friend was a hard core rose grower, she gave me this method.
Don't cut anything. Bend a young cane down to the ground and cover it with a mason jar, leaving it attached to the original bush. Kind of like making an "S" out of the cane. Keep it moist, in a few weeks it's a second rosebush ready for transplanting.

 

[Cookie monster]

An old friend was a hard core rose grower, she gave me this method.
Don't cut anything. Bend a young cane down to the ground and cover it with a mason jar, leaving it attached to the original bush. Kind of like making an "S" out of the cane. Keep it moist, in a few weeks it's a second rosebush ready for transplanting.

Thanks for the tip bro
I have a lovely 2ft x 8inch glass vase that should do the job next year.
I tryed it a few minutes ago but the stems are too woody to bend without cracking or snapping.
There are still a few shoots lower down on the bush that have yet to develope buds so I'm going to try a canvass bag filled with soil at the base of 1 or 2 of them with plastic bottles on top.

Once again many thanks for the idea, funny thing is I use the same idea as your friend uses on my Blackberry bushes but it never occured to me to try it on the roses.

 

[kava]

Most of the time when roses are made to grow they take a plant that grows roots and splice it to a top plant that grows flowers. They do this with apple trees also. I cut one of moms old rose bush way back as it was out of controol and it no longer is a red rose it reverted back to the wild rose bush it is now white with small flowers with very little smell at all.
Hope this helps Take care and be carefull

 

[MeanBean]

I Actually Am testing a rose cutting in my DIY clone I made. It has roots right now just not enough to transplant. Hopefully next time I am in there I can remember to snap a pic for ya.

I know that it has been like 3-4 weeks in an areo cloner and still has barley any roots. So they must be tough. I got a piece of bush in there 2 and its not dead but still no roots.

You can see the cloner I got in my signature.

 

[MeanBean]

Here's that rose clipping after 3 weeks, kinda slow but working!! You can see how I do it with my EZ cloner in my Signature.

 

[VerdantGreen]

the traditional way with roses (other than bud grafting) is to take hardwood cuttings in autumn. take prunings about 8 inches long. make a slit trench in the ground with a spade. put some sand/grit in to it and sink the prunings, right way up, into the trench with about 2-3 inches left above ground. close the trench back up by sinking the spade in near it and pushing it back together. at least half of them should have rooted by spring and start putting on growth. slow, but it works. you can also use a pot full of grit or sandy soil

VG

 

[coconaut]

fishheadbob already touched on this, but the technique he speaks of is/or is similar, to air-layering. If you're unable to bend a branch down to the ground, you can bring the soil to the branch.
It doesn't have to be soil, it could be coco, or rockwool, anything that holds a lot of moisture.
You just wrap the stem you want to propagate in some medium and secure it with clingwrap or aluminum foil. You want to keep it really moist, either use a syringe and inject water or maybe leave a small hole at the top of the wrap to re-wet.

 

[maxibiogreen]

Hi CM.

you might have tried this al ready but i ve always did my roses cut this way and it always worked perfect.
Take a cut 2 to 3 inches long leave 2 to 3 leaves on scarify gently half an inch of the low part of the cut and dip the tip slightly in standart rooting powder. you really do not want much rooting powder left on the cut so i mean it gently dip it in the rooting powder.
then just plant it in a mix of 1/3 coco 1/3 soil (standard not rich) and then a third of perlite.
Place your cuts under a dome (mini greenhouse) and spray them once every day with rain water.
If you do that i m sure you ll have some cloned roses in two weeks.
Oh yes one last thing try to keep these cuts on the average day time temps when you do this
Best of luck

We all love our plants and some have a special meaning to us.

The rose I seem unable to clone was a cutting my mother took from from a bush in my grandfathers garden 27 years ago , she was an amazingly talented gardener who sadly died a few years back.
My grandfather has not got long left and long story short this rose was their favourite flower.



Nobody can remember which variety it is except that's it's an old fashioned cottage rose, when it's in full bloom it's scent is overpowering.

I've tried every sort of medium and rooting hormone known to man without success.
If anybody has any experience in cloning older roses I would be eternally grateful for any pointers.

On a less important issue, my cordaline austeralis was hammered by the winter when the night time temps plunged to a record -14c.
It literally froze solid for about a month, when spring came it started to rot so the top 15 feet were cut off and the remaining stumps were treated with an antifungal solution.
No sign of any new growth, has this happened to any of you guys? and how long did yours take to show signs of life?

Stay safe n happy all.

 

[highsteppa]

softwoods cuttings

softwoods cuttings

Roses root easily from summer softwoods in July. Take them when they are still flexible but will snap if bent in half. High humidiy(plastic bag) shade, well drained medium, and bottom heat if possible.

Juvenile shoots root best, a hard pruning on a cane or 2 should give you some. Generally stock plants used fro cuttings are kept in this juvenile state by hard pruning in fall. Older plants often don't root as well, so you got to make them push some new shoots to use, but avoid "water shoots"---those are the long fleshy ones often with wide internodal spacing.

Wound a bud with shears or fingernail down to the cambium layer, to expose meristem tissue and treat with 3000 ppm IBA or wahtever roosting powder you can get. Often it comes in 3 strengths: 1 (1000ppm) 2 (3000 ppm) and 3 (8000 ppm).

I've rooted the the white rose of York this way easily and it goes back to the 1400''s! IMO own root roses are the way to go. Good luck, HS

 

[Majikoopa]

I've always fared pretty well by placing a little square of canvas in around a young, healthy branch and filling it with some soil. Of course, tie both ends with some twine. For a more difficult plant like this it might not be a bad idea to put a bit of rooting hormone on that branch as well. Similar to the idea with the clingwrap or the aluminum foil, except you can get a little better drainage and breathability to prevent moulding, and no need for a syringe-- you can just get the canvas section wet. For what its worth, it's worked for me several times.