following the Maine medical M.J issues

[emerald city]

Hey all: emerald city here ,E.C for short..Been reading on this site for years ,interesting people and infomation.Never thought i had to much new to offer....until now... now that im"medicaly" legal im more inclined to throw my 2c in on the topic of medical marijuana in the state of Maine.....Being a maine native and having watched or participated in the "sceene" since the 70ies gives me a unique perspective to whats happening now in our little peice of the world.[ to me its the centre of the universe.]
Would like to hear or discuss issues with any other folk[fellow maine-iac's] involved pro/gro med sceene from maine....Save mom and pop.Be independent..Dont give up your med cards...GROW YOUR OWN. or we'll all be smoking government gray....teach them and they will grow.
peace/out E.C

 

[emerald city]

Interested in talking with other fellow Mainer's on the topic of medical marijuana in maine...
Lots of new's and rumor's floating around the state on how this registry thing is gonna sift out,like to hear others mainer's take on the deal....Ive heard of around 100 folk fileing hippa code violation's,While other's are calling for cival disobedience by not going through the regisration process......
I just got my permission slip and would love to grow a few plants but will not give up my rights[to the dhhs] to do so...What do you all think??????
p.s I now have enough post's to be p.m'ed . E.C/out

 

[emerald city]

Pleasure to meet you vwgtiron,apreciate your response...My intent is to try to be of some help to other patient's and caregiver's in the foothills of maine....Most of the folk i come in contact with [medical M.J patient's] are having a hard time keeping up on the new rules and regulation's DHHS is proposeing to impliment starting in july..Im trying to find local sourses,other mainer-er's, for reliable upto date infomation.....Im also seeing greed rearing its ugly head along with all the politics and positioning thats going on and want to make sure that i/we dont end up tieing ourself to the wrong ship and sinking with the rats..This should be a mainer's helping mainer's mentality not the "IM GOING TO RULE SOUTHERN MAINE"comment made by a potential souther maine dispesery owner who's come up here for the money........Im hearing good thing about kirsten and may reach out shortly[such a small world up he-ah in da hills]...So basicly im just trying to gather as much upto date info for me ,my wife and all the other patients of maine we come in contact with...
Your website looked interesting..Good luck to ye....E.C

 

[Buddle]

Hey VWiron,
I am also a card carrier in Maine.I can't pm you here but will on your greenrelief homepage.Like E.C. I havn't registered either.I'd love to hear what you think..peace BL

 

[emerald city]

^ I like you surfer comment^^...My buddy went to hawaii on his honeymoon.He was approached on the beach and asked if he wanted some smoke,he thought of me and grabed a couple grams to bring back to maine..When he got home he was so proud when he handed me the litle package,untill we unwraped it and found it was leaf wrapped with green string....No high but a good laugh.......

 

[vwgtiron]

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I believe there is some serious issues posed going forward and we need clarification on several key issues. We seem to be reasonably well informed on the subject. It is hard right now because the police have little training on the new MM laws in Maine.

 

[emerald city]

Here are some issue's being had by some medical M.J patients in maine .
The pot being delivered is;
#1 way over priced for what it is[mostly last years outdoor swag]
#2 inconsistant quality
#3 unreliable delivery schedual's.
#4 under weight bags
#5 unprofessional customer service skills..
Never mind 2 guys showing up after the 11 o clock news,trying to dump off what they said was a qp,when they are only allowed to drop off 2.5z per every 2 weeks,and wanting the money even tho the weight was short and the smoke was junk..,they were told to get out and not return....
Maybe cause there are only a few " dispensarys" up and running and they have some bugs to work out OR maybe the greed has already set in and everyone has forgotten the idea is to help the patients of Maine ,not screww emm....Going back to the days of the underground dealer is sounding pretty good right now...At least you can get some" Good" smoke,be treated fairly,and not have your name on a list.....keep to the mom and pop growing model if you want a quality product.....rant over,have a peacefull memorial day
E.C/out

 

[vwgtiron]

I would have to agree with the issues tht you are talking about. I know that most of my medicine goes for 200-250 an oz. However I have just started flowering and yes I am out, my patients have run me dry. The way that maine makes you grow is just frustrating. I have never shorted a bag of medicine, but yes the quality is all over the place. It is a bad situation because of the way maine makes you grow.

 

[emerald city]

I would have to agree with the issues tht you are talking about. I know that most of my medicine goes for 200-250 an oz. However I have just started flowering and yes I am out, my patients have run me dry. The way that maine makes you grow is just frustrating. I have never shorted a bag of medicine, but yes the quality is all over the place. It is a bad situation because of the way maine makes you grow.

Dont get me wrong ,i wasnt pointing at you.Twas another yet to be "unnamed" dispensery....Yah the way i understand the wording you gotta wait till you get a client THEN start growing for them.Leaves some lag time to be adjusted for...lot of bugs to work out....Id rather see instead of numbers either a square foot or lumens method.mush fairer id say....My bigest concern is a genetics co-op...We need a place to collect,hold,clone,share all varieties of Mj available.....E.C/out

 

[Buddle]

^ I like you surfer comment^^...My buddy went to hawaii on his honeymoon.He was approached on the beach and asked if he wanted some smoke,he thought of me and grabed a couple grams to bring back to maine..When he got home he was so proud when he handed me the litle package,untill we unwraped it and found it was leaf wrapped with green string....No high but a good laugh.......

Mine was legit..Happened in a convnience store parking lot.A head drove in and commented on the rental car I was driving.After a brief conversation I asked him if he knew where I could get some weed.He had a half in the glove compartment..200.00.Been thinking about that awesome weed ever since...
I've heard stories like yours from othrs.I definitely got lucky..peace

 

[Buddle]

EC and vwgriton...What methods are you using to provide enough medicine with only six plants.I consider myself a decent grower and I don't know how I'm going to stay medicated with a 3 flower and 2.5 oz limit..Enlighten me..please.

 

[emerald city]

very large vegged plants,or non compliance..ha/ha
I figure me and the wife get to do 12 plants....4 moms,2 cuttings,2 in veg,2 in [i like to say]bud# 1,then 2 in bud# 2.....harvesting 2- 4 foot plants every month should just about get us threw if the wife dont smoke to much...2-3 z per plant/perpetual hvest..Best legal model i can spit out in 5 minutes.....E.C/out

 

[highsteppa]

Hi Buddle Hope things are well with you...call me!

I am interested in getting involved, but many I talk to would rather continue on as they have been. Between the limits and registering vs. living with a law that will give you a misdemeanor under 100 plants?? Is it true that if you have more than 2 patients the statey's want to visit?
Many would rather just keep slinging lbs of cough, sour, or whatever nice stuff they have and keep to themselves. Keep sendignt he Blueberry sativa down to NYC or whatever...

The 2.5 OZ is a real challenge. I could live with 6 plants (trees)and a greenhouse. Its sad cause as we know the people who been in the black market side have the strains. I went to colorado to check stuff out and the sour was some rez stuff, not to much was flushed, and alot of the selections could be had by anyone that can buy seeds off the net + cali type misnamed clones grape somthing or another with powdery Actually had some Kona that was nice. But although it was impressive to see the med scene, the herb was average--no Pbud or any CO strains.

I don't know where the connect will be since the people with the old Orono strains, etc and the skills don't want the trouble of bureaucracy. I don't see them giving the stuff they bred and worked on for years as they have pride in their work and the strains are their bread and butter.

So the patients lose out, especilly the new ones who are opening up to medical marijuana and willneed to smoke uncured unflushed meds. I don't see who it helps other than the entrepreneur. The growers and patients get the short end of the stick.

Leave it to Maine to screw this up. Maybe these are stepping stones along the way.

 

[emerald city]

Hi Buddle Hope things are well with you...call me!

I am interested in getting involved, but many I talk to would rather continue on as they have been. Between the limits and registering vs. living with a law that will give you a misdemeanor under 100 plants?? Is it true that if you have more than 2 patients the statey's want to visit?
Many would rather just keep slinging lbs of cough, sour, or whatever nice stuff they have and keep to themselves. Keep sendignt he Blueberry sativa down to NYC or whatever...

The 2.5 OZ is a real challenge. I could live with 6 plants (trees)and a greenhouse. Its sad cause as we know the people who been in the black market side have the strains. I went to colorado to check stuff out and the sour was some rez stuff, not to much was flushed, and alot of the selections could be had by anyone that can buy seeds off the net + cali type misnamed clones grape somthing or another with powdery Actually had some Kona that was nice. But although it was impressive to see the med scene, the herb was average--no Pbud or any CO strains.

I don't know where the connect will be since the people with the old Orono strains, etc and the skills don't want the trouble of bureaucracy. I don't see them giving the stuff they bred and worked on for years as they have pride in their work and the strains are their bread and butter.

So the patients lose out, especilly the new ones who are opening up to medical marijuana and willneed to smoke uncured unflushed meds. I don't see who it helps other than the entrepreneur. The growers and patients get the short end of the stick.

Leave it to Maine to screw this up. Maybe these are stepping stones along the way.

I agree with your basic points....Your average patient who has just gone legal and wants to grow thier 6 plants are being left out of the dhhs/dispensery equasion.Patients STILL will have to fend for themselfs trying to find a steady supply of quality seeds or clones to run on a monthly basis. ..
I totaly understand the other side too,After spending a life time perfecting the craft.Years of effort crossing seeds and breeds following out select lines for years,I can see how giving away all that work could be hard.........So what do we do ??
to be continued....... E.C

 

[vwgtiron]

Read the definitions

Read the definitions

I agree with your basic points....Your average patient who has just gone legal and wants to grow thier 6 plants are being left out of the dhhs/dispensery equasion.Patients STILL will have to fend for themselfs trying to find a steady supply of quality seeds or clones to run on a monthly basis. ..
I totaly understand the other side too,After spending a life time perfecting the craft.Years of effort crossing seeds and breeds following out select lines for years,I can see how giving away all that work could be hard.........So what do we do ??
to be continued....... E.C

If you read the definition of a marijuana plant-it is a live 12x12 or greater FLOWERING FEMALE plant. This definition purposely was designed to say that. Veg and clone what you want just dont flower more than 6 or yield more than you need. I have 5 patients that I provide caregiving services for and am myself a patient. This was confirmed at the conference by Cathy Cobb of DHHS in three different worded questions.

 

[Hmmm512]

Here are some issue's being had by some medical M.J patients in maine .
The pot being delivered is;
#1 way over priced for what it is[mostly last years outdoor swag]
#2 inconsistant quality
#3 unreliable delivery schedual's.
#4 under weight bags
#5 unprofessional customer service skills..
Never mind 2 guys showing up after the 11 o clock news,trying to dump off what they said was a qp,when they are only allowed to drop off 2.5z per every 2 weeks,and wanting the money even tho the weight was short and the smoke was junk..,they were told to get out and not return....
Maybe cause there are only a few " dispensarys" up and running and they have some bugs to work out OR maybe the greed has already set in and everyone has forgotten the idea is to help the patients of Maine ,not screww emm....Going back to the days of the underground dealer is sounding pretty good right now...At least you can get some" Good" smoke,be treated fairly,and not have your name on a list.....keep to the mom and pop growing model if you want a quality product.....rant over,have a peacefull memorial day
E.C/out

I am pretty new to the movement and have few friends out west who involved and have heard lot of the same issues that you have brought up. I think that with the limited access to MMJ across the state, folks are going to be stuck, with no way out, with the variety that one shop is willing/able to grow. I think that is also going to keep quality MMJ underground, as you say. That problem is going to keep MMJ inaccessable to the folks that need it.

Registering is whole 'nuther can of worms. Beyond it being taxed and the State/Fed bridging "budget" gaps, a Dr.'s reccomendation should be enough and is really as far as the state needs to go.

I agree with you to grow your own within volume allowed and leave the state out of it. They make everything else such a pain.

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