Colorado Growers Thread

[Greenmopho]

No worries, the "oddly enough" part says it all. I thought you were suggesting that the stuff that the LED lights made the clone mom do showed up in the clones because of the LED lights in the clone mom and not for some other reason. That would be freaking weird.

Whose on first?

That got a little confusing....

Have any of you bloomed under LED lights?

About a year and a half ago we got some of these:

http://www.amazon.com/LED-Grow-Light-Illuminator-Pro/dp/B001JV8MJA

They say that this 300W LED is equivalent to a 1000W HPS?!?!?!

And yes, at that price (ouch!)!

Veggging was incredible growth, little stretch, very healthy. However, in 12/12, bud development was slow at best, 8 week strain took 12+ weeks to finish and yielded abnormally low. I know this isn't the LED thread, but we are on the topic now...c'mon Colorado, any experience? How about all this new plasma shit?

 

[nine7oh]

On the topic of LED, I was following this thread:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=165239&page=5

Now for some ladys:
White Rhino:

Wreckage:

Apollo 11

 

[Tripsick]

My buddy just grew out some bag seed.. It finished in 49 days smells of straight cat piss.
Just like the SensiStar lemon pheno But it taste like Lemon Pledge..

I just figured out that the Bluecheese would have a Blueberry Pledge flavor.. thats the best way to describe it.

 

[funkfingers]

I don't think I would flower under the LEDs, the idea is to shorten the internodes on low yielding stretchy plants..My theory is that we will be able to increase yield, and decrease stretch.. These are all theory's at this point though.. The other weird part is the success rate of the clones vegged off this LED vegged mom is unreal, like 90% root, where as in the past the same with same strain I would have got 10-20%.

 

[Arvada]

He thinks that by not signing it he can claim he wasn't responsible for its passing. Bullshit. I hope the entire CO MMJ community goes to the polls this November and votes against Ritter, Hickenlooper and Romer regardless of what position they are running for or who is running against them.

FYI, Ritter is not running again and Hickenlooper will run for gov.

 

[HossCartwright]

FYI, Ritter is not running again and Hickenlooper will run for gov.

Yeah I knew Ritter was stepping down, but he's not retiring from politics is he? Most politicians don't retire until they die. It's not like their jobs are work or anything. Mostly just hanging out and rubbing elbows with other rich, greedy, clueless pricks who consider themselves to be masters of the universe.

I also heard that Romer might not run for Senate and wants to be mayor? I really hope these guys receive immediate consequences for their corruption from the voting MMJ community.

 

[cobcoop]

I don't think I would flower under the LEDs, the idea is to shorten the internodes on low yielding stretchy plants..My theory is that we will be able to increase yield, and decrease stretch.. These are all theory's at this point though.. The other weird part is the success rate of the clones vegged off this LED vegged mom is unreal, like 90% root, where as in the past the same with same strain I would have got 10-20%.

Clone success rate under different lighting right? Have you run a tray of clones under the LED's and noticed any difference?

 

[Arvada]

Hoss, I thought Ritter was going back to being a lawyer. That would be fine with me, but he already did his damage to Colorado.IMHO
I need to check - I think there was a gov candidate that was pro mmj - I think he was a Republican.

 

[funkfingers]

Clone success rate under different lighting right? Have you run a tray of clones under the LED's and noticed any difference?

haven't put any clones under the LED, I'm starting to consider keeping all the moms underneath it.

 

[StrictlyGateway]

yeah positive it is.. the blue LED tricks the plant into not making the hormones that cause it to stretch-out, I'm sure there is some technical term for it but.. But believe this is the same og I've grown for years.

phytochrome and cryptochrome, i believe what you are speaking of. a little rusty on the plant phys.

anyway, through these photoreceptors the plant will regulate its response based on the particular wavelength of light.

the shorter wavelength (blue) does result in less stem elongation, but it seems to me something else going on? that OG is just SO damn tight, doesn't it seem like an intensity (lumen) issue?

i've got two ideas if you'd indulge? 1. being the led is a 'farther' blue wavelength than the halides. 2. like going from fluoros to HID, just that the intensity is also playing a role. thoughts?

i question whether there would be an actual change in the DNA, though?

that being said....sign me up for the entire chemdawg and og lines! this could bring a whole new dimension to growing those unruly b@#ches.

 

[funkfingers]

phytochrome and cryptochrome, i believe what you are speaking of. a little rusty on the plant phys.

anyway, through these photoreceptors the plant will regulate its response based on the particular wavelength of light.

the shorter wavelength (blue) does result in less stem elongation, but it seems to me something else going on? that OG is just SO damn tight, doesn't it seem like an intensity (lumen) issue?

i've got two ideas if you'd indulge? 1. being the led is a 'farther' blue wavelength than the halides. 2. like going from fluoros to HID, just that the intensity is also playing a role. thoughts?

i question whether there would be an actual change in the DNA, though?

that being said....sign me up for the entire chemdawg and og lines! this could bring a whole new dimension to growing those unruly b@#ches.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to StrictlyGateway again."

thank you, couldn't remember what those were called...

I totally agree it puts a new spin on growing those stretchy-low yielding plants.. Does anyone think that the shorter internodes will also increase the yield??

 

[StrictlyGateway]

Does anyone think that the shoter internodes will also increase the yield??

i think absolutely b/c you will be able to get the light closer to more of the plant being that the nodes are closer together. combine that with the increased root growth from the supercropping, and

 

[funkfingers]

We'll see how this pans out as it stands got a whole section of the lab filled with ogs that all look really similar to this one.. Most people I've talked to think this might be a great organic alternative to those products that keep your plant from stretching, and keep the internodes nice and tight. I need to see the results of these blue LEDs on different strains + some before I'm completely sold.. Well shit If we can get this og to yield that might be all I need.

 

[cobcoop]

i think absolutely b/c you will be able to get the light closer to more of the plant being that the nodes are closer together. combine that with the increased root growth from the supercropping, and

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to StrictlyGateway again."

thank you, couldn't remember what those were called...

I totally agree it puts a new spin on growing those stretchy-low yielding plants.. Does anyone think that the shorter internodes will also increase the yield??

It could also be from the reduced heat, and as SG touched on the distance to the light, as plants further from the light source will stretch more. I read a little about the led grow lights and it says:

There are four chlorophyll absorption peaks and LED grow lights use four different types of LEDs to hit all four peaks (two red and two blue).

Which means to me that the plant is getting the typical veg spectrum (blue) and the typical flower spectrum (orange/red) at the same time, which might cause it to stay compact, because it is absorbing the red spectrum, which during flowering would stop grow/stretchyness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light


Also funk as to yield, there are folks who swear by using the CMH bulbs with HPS during flowering, so perhaps the wider spectrum during the entire life of the plant can boost yield. Hortilux bulbs have the wider spectrum also, so maybe that's the ticket.

 

[funkfingers]

This Og kush plant( unknown cut) is only about 1 month old has never been topped and was super cropped for the first time 2 days prior to this photo. The mother was vegged under a combo of blue LED, and Cfls. The end result was the tightest nodes I've ever seen on a Og, literally node stacked on node.. Well the craziest thing is it seems to have passed this trait on to it's clones..

forgot to add the light cycle for veg on the mother plant that his clone came from consisted of the cfls on for 18hrs at a time while having the blue LEDs on 24 hrs.. From what I've read using the blue light spectrum during the dark period it will not trigger thee plant into flower but it will allow the plant to continue photosynthesizing in a dark period.

 

[Balazar]

I haven't kept up on the LED's. I haven't seen any pro's boasting about their results either... It seems like it could be a good technology if the light spectrum could be pinned down but I don't think that's been done yet. IMHO I think this may have to do with the holes in the spectrum output of LED light units. For instance if your blue LED's cover 460-540nm and your reds pick up at 650-750nm you have a hole of no light in the 541-649nm range. With a MH or HPS you still have a little bit of everything and some colors are more concentrated than others but they are all there.

I think that the balance of colors that the bulb produces are something that an indoor gardener will fight forever. I have tried mixing MH and HPS in flower with varying results. I am quite interested in hanging CMH bulbs vertically as a supplement to the HPS but I have not had the funds to play with that idea yet. If Philips made the CMH in 600 or 1000 I would jump on them but until then it remains to be a luxury add on.

 

[Dorje113]

It could also be from the reduced heat, and as SG touched on the distance to the light, as plants further from the light source will stretch more. I read a little about the led grow lights and it says:

Which means to me that the plant is getting the typical veg spectrum (blue) and the typical flower spectrum (orange/red) at the same time, which might cause it to stay compact, because it is absorbing the red spectrum, which during flowering would stop grow/stretchyness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light


Also funk as to yield, there are folks who swear by using the CMH bulbs with HPS during flowering, so perhaps the wider spectrum during the entire life of the plant can boost yield. Hortilux bulbs have the wider spectrum also, so maybe that's the ticket.

Trying a horti blue (600HPS/400MH in same bulb) right now with a hot spot diffuser. Nicest light spectrum I've seen, but not quite as intense as the straight HPS. I think it'll improve quality, if not yield vs. the straight HPS.

 

[Greenmopho]

Going back to the topic of DJ Short's Flo....How is everyones yield on that girl? My 2nd run of her, and I still can't get her over 1/2 lb. per 1kW...wTf?

 

[funkfingers]

she's def not a yielder...never heard of anyone hitting high # 's with her.

 

[Paco]

she's def not a yielder...never heard of anyone hitting high # 's with her.

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=160781