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White Poison - Organic Outdoor 2010

Xare

Active member
Hello canna friends,

I learned much about outdoor growing in this sub-forum so this thread is to show you what Ive been taught.


I will be growing clones of White Poison. Its an F1 Hybrid cut of White Widow x Durban Poison.

It expresses the White Widow Trichome trait and some purple calyx's from the Durban Poison lineage. Overall it has an "Up" Sativa buzz without a really long flowering time.


They will be fed organics for the entire grow.

I amend my native soil with an Organic Premix and Top-dress with Guano.

Recipe for Organic Premix :

2 part Bonemeal
1 part Bloodmeal
1 part Kelpmeal
1 part High P guano
1 part High N guano
1 part Greensand
1 part Dolomite Lime

Dosage is 4-5 cups of premix per 5 gallons of soil.


Seedling / Clone Mix:

3 part potting soil
1 part perlite
And a bit of guano to get things growing.


Here is what the White Poison clones look like.

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I rooted the cuts in a bubble cloner and transplanted into cups nearly a week ago. They will be inside under a 400 watt HPS for the next week or so.

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Xare

Active member
All the White Poison clones are in the ground.

They had a bit of trouble with too much direct sun light bleaching out the fan leaves. But they are happy looking this morning.

Here are a few of the WP Clones:

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And here is a shot of the Plot, they are hard to see but its 4 rows of 10:

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I dig holes in my native soil and amend the dirt with my Organic Premix 2 weeks before planting.


After I planted it was cloudy for a couple days then the sun came out and bleached a few fan leaves. After that some rains came and now a bit of a heat wave.

So far I have only watered one clone that looked a bit wilty after a unusually hot day.
 

Rob547

East Coast Grower
Veteran
Looks like a good start man. What kind of guano do you use? I assume you'll be feeding more with guano at some point? flowering? I've been wanting to try out guano for a while but hopefully this year, just not sure the best NPK to use. best of luck. ill be lurking
 

Xare

Active member
I have a box of Jamaican Bat Guano that is high in Phosphorous (1-10-0.2)

And a box of Mexican Bat Guano high in Nitrogen (10-2-1)


The Jamaican is for flowering and the Mexican is for vegging.

I will feed with top dressings, also Guano Tea and Molasses every two weeks or so.
 

Xare

Active member
I have grown in this location twice before with bagseed.

After culling the males and suffering losses to deer, ect - I brought in 15 plants out of 40 seedlings.

Yields ranging from 1/4 indica to 1/2 lb sativa's

Hopefully, now that I am running clones I can bring in at least 30 finished plants of organic dankness.


The plot gets sun nearly all day long. The native soil stays wet enough that I do not have to water very often. Its sorta sandy but still has plenty of humus material.


Before I took over this location, some big bushes grew as a large overhead canopy. I hollowed out the middle of the thicket and re-enforced the walls with cut branches as a defensive deer barricade. This year I have added to this barrier and I apply other preventative measures to counter the deer in my area. Like spreading around extra blood and bone meal to make the garden smell like a slaughter house.

Also I have been spraying my young clones with Sevin to prevent slug or bug damage. After it rains I give it a fresh application, all the way through Veg.
 

Xare

Active member
*Siren*

The plants are under attack...

Some animal had a feast with the fan leaves.

I suspect rabbits because I found no deer sign. So I executed a Counter Attack on a nearby animal burrow I noticed. Tossed in a few grenades (mothballs) and sealed their cave. Mwahaha !

They started a war, I will starve the bastards to death !!!

If they are lucky enough to escape they better move on.



Animals... Sigh


The plants will recover, but a couple have been topped.
 
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humboldtlocal

Sounds like a nice cross you are working with. Hope you get your animal issues worked out. Can you wrap the garden in Chicken wire? That is what we always used back in the guerilla days here. We would throw the wire on a burn pile to take the shinyness off of it.
 
and I apply other preventative measures to counter the deer in my area. Like spreading around extra blood and bone meal to make the garden smell like a slaughter house.

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Uh, this is wrong! You're making it smell like a meal to the critters. Many OD growers won't use any blood or bone meal because they know that critters will tear up a plot when they smell that stuff. I'm surprised Humboldtlocal didn't tell you the same, since he's a very experienced OD grower. Good luck!

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humboldtlocal

We always fenced. I had never heard of anyone spreading bone or blood meal around. I used Mountain Lion piss once but it attracted Mountain Lions.
 

Xare

Active member
Well, Ive lost a few battles with the animal.

Nearly every day new damage is done to my plants. I found a second entrance to the animal burrow and sealed it up. But the critter was outside already or there is a third hole I cant find.

It stripped several of the larger plants today. It looks like it pulls them over to eat the upper leafs.

So about every day for the last two weeks this dang thing has made a meal out of my plants. I have other deterrents out like soap and mothballs hanging from a sock in a tree. The whole plot smells like mothballs but it does no good.


I have 5 or so plants that are left untouched and they are about knee high. The rest are 1/2 that size, topped and trying to regrow from animal damage.

Pretty infuriating.


Last year I was damaged pretty bad by deer at this time of the season, they grew back mostly but it hurt the yield.

To keep the deer out I would have to erect a 16 foot tall $ 1,000 fence, but it would draw attention to the plot and it cant be done.


I already have an 8 foot high barrier around my plants made from brush... I re-enforced it this year thinking deer are my big worry but it looks like I have to add a real fence to keep out this damn critter !


So instead ive decided to setup a chicken wire fence that is four feet tall to just keep this little bastard out. Its still early enough in the season that it will help.


I just brought out four 5+ feet long wood beams to use as fence posts. I had to bring this stuff out there at night and tomorrow Iam going to buy 60+ foot of fencing. I will get a few extra steaks too, smaller ones for stability.

But I plan on digging these wood posts 2 feet into the ground and using them for the corners of the Fence.
 
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brewess

New member
There is a product called "Chew-Not" you may be able to locate. It works great but has a compound in it that can hurt aquatic life.
 

Xare

Active member
I just setup the fence. I am sore, blistered, cut-up from the wire and sunburned...

It took most of a 100 foot roll of 4 foot tall 14 gauge wire fencing. I tried to bury a few inches of it in a trench so the animals will not dig underneath it.


Here is some animal damage:


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This is one of my 4 corner posts:

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And the roll of fencing:

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This is the plot now Fenced In:

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And a couple happy clones:

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Xare

Active member
I am glad to report that the Fence is working so far :jump:

And the plot just feels "Safer"

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This caged in plant is a WW x DP mother that the clones came from:

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The plants were fed with their first watering of Guano Tea.

Mixed into 8 gallons of water,
I used 2 cups of Mexican Guano, high in nitrogen
2 tablespoons of Epsom Salt, for the magnesium
and 4 tablespoons of molasses, to feed my organic micro-herd.

Dissolve the salt and molasses in a mug of hot water before you add it to the Tea.
 

Xare

Active member
June 20th, summer solstice is tomorrow so here is a veg update.

The plants are around 3 feet tall or so.

Slugs have been chewing on some leafs but other then that things look ok:

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They have been in the ground over a month so I top dressed each plant with 1/4 cup of high N guano (mexican)


I also inoculated the soil with a bottle of Oregonism XL.

Its Beneficial Fungi / Bacteria to help with nutrient uptake and disease prevention.

Previously in this location I have lost a couple plants each year to rot. Some type of Pythium Infection I think.

So I am also starting to apply a Biological Fungicide as a soil drench around the roots. I have a product called Companion which is concentrated Bacillus Subtilis (strain GB03) it will attack pathogenic fungi that cause disease / rot.
 
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