Bigger is better for pot dispensaries

[Leon Brooks]

point of previous thread. lol

i usually go to a local shop that is what most would call "whole in the wall".

but guess what? they know my name, my condition, and want to know what it is THEY can do to better assist me. never had to wait more then 2 min and i had i get to have a seat when i do.

does harborside even have chairs... i dont think so and i think there is something to be said about that.

get in, spend money, get the fuck out.

 

[xxd]

point of previous thread. lol

i usually go to a local shop that is what most would call "whole in the wall".

but guess what? they know my name, my condition, and want to know what it is THEY can do to better assist me. never had to wait more then 2 min and i had i get to have a seat when i do.

does harborside even have chairs... i dont think so and i think there is something to be said about that.

get in, spend money, get the fuck out.

fuck Harborside! and support the little ones.
hope you feel better. XXD

 

[Lil 'o Me]

Man... Leon, that pisses me off. Fuck large corportation greedy scum! Im all for small buisness all the way! The service is almost always better with small buisness.

 

[HHC]

i just had a tumor slightly larger then a golf ball removed from the arch of my foot 3 weeks ago and of course am still on crutches. cant put ANY weight on it for another 4weeks.

went to harborside oak and stood in line for 20min on crutches while EVERY single person who worked there saw how uncomfortable i was.

never offered front of line access (f'ing disneyland does) or even a seat for that matter.

when i finally got up to the counter i donated however much it was for a gram (was going to get more) just cause i didnt want to have stood in line for 20 min for nothing.

then i let them know i would never be returning and to remove me from there files.

fucking with $20mil, yes

compassion, no

coincidence, HELL NO.

Leon,

There is a large sign in the front lobby that instructs you to inform staff if you would like a seat and/or priority in line. Security will get a chair for you, and walk you to the front of the line so you do not have to wait. It is up to you make your voice heard, Leon. We do not assume that you would like these services as some patients are very sensitive about such matters and actually get offended if we we bring it up.

Sincerely,
HHC OAK

 

[BigBudBill]

HHC OAK,

Wow. It sucks that some patients get offended that you ask them if they would like assistance. You really would take that so far as to not ask someone on crutches if they would like any assistance? I wrote on my review on weedmaps that this would be an issue and I see it is.

You may want to rethink this policy. As it is, the people up front act like bouncers, not people helping patients with serious conditions. I am sorry, but I will probably not ever use your dispensary. You have nothing to offer except high prices to cover the cost of your extra benefits that I dont see any use in. Your lines are too long for me, I have a back issue that limits my standing time. Many other places have less lines, and comfy chairs, couches to sit on while filling out paperwork, and a staff that tends to lean towards the caregiver mentality, rather than the bartender mentality.

"It is up to you make your voice heard, Leon"

Wow....really?? Where did you learn your bedside manners mr caregiver?

You should make a visit to MHPC to better understand what a great dispensary service is.

If this critic bothers you, then in the words of S. Cowell, "Sorry".

 

[HHC]

HHC OAK,

Wow. It sucks that some patients get offended that you ask them if they would like assistance. You really would take that so far as to not ask someone on crutches if they would like any assistance? I wrote on my review on weedmaps that this would be an issue and I see it is.

You may want to rethink this policy. As it is, the people up front act like bouncers, not people helping patients with serious conditions. I am sorry, but I will probably not ever use your dispensary. You have nothing to offer except high prices to cover the cost of your extra benefits that I dont see any use in. Your lines are too long for me, I have a back issue that limits my standing time. Many other places have less lines, and comfy chairs, couches to sit on while filling out paperwork, and a staff that tends to lean towards the caregiver mentality, rather than the bartender mentality.

"It is up to you make your voice heard, Leon"

Wow....really?? Where did you learn your bedside manners mr caregiver?

You should make a visit to MHPC to better understand what a great dispensary service is.

If this critic bothers you, then in the words of S. Cowell, "Sorry".

Our deepest apologies BigBudBill and Leon. We did not mean to be rude or anything. We were just reminding you about our Priority Patient Policy - if you have trouble standing, etc. please let us know. We will kindly escort you to the front of the line and even give you a chair to sit on. We do not, however, assume that everyone wants this service as some see it as a sense of pride to not ask for such services. We do let the patients know about this policy when you register with us and there is a sign up front to remind you of it.

We do provide seating around the dispensary floor. If you would like additional seating while in line, or would like to be escorted right up to the front, all you have to do is ask the front desk.

We provide all of the services you are asking for, you just need to inquire about them.

We are deeply sorry if in any way we offended you. That was not our intent. We were only letting you know of our Priority Patient Policy if you did not already know.

Much love,
HHC OAK

 

[Slimm]

I have been unimpressed with the selection and quality at the SJ location. The Oakland location is better. If this is how DeAngelo manages growth Harborside is in trouble.

 

[grapeman]

Harborside's Steve DeAngelo is in favor of bigger, and better dispensaries able to serve not only patients; but in the future with legalization, the general public.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/14/2676819/bigger-is-better-for-pot-dispensaries.html#ixzz0l5nxij9d

Of course he would favor this. It will effectively block smaller competing dispensaries from springing up and competing for his dollar. Once he lays down with the government and collects their tax dollar for them, they will protect him.

That's the way it works. Just like Goldman Sachs.

Effectively, the clinics will be vertically integrated, small growers will become a thing of the past (they will not buy from outside growers) and under the guise of useful medical MJ, these types of fellows will laugh all the way to the bank while the government is keeping their competition at bay.

Oh yeah, sounds like wonderful people and a wonderful plan.

 

[HarborsideSJ]

We hope to create a model that government officials can approve of. It is important to have a standard.

Sincerely,
HHCSJ

 

[nomaad]

We hope to create a model that government officials can approve of. It is important to have a standard.

Sincerely,
HHCSJ

I know what you mean. I love it how McDonalds is the same everywhere you go. Standards rock!

Its even better when your "government accepted model" is inserted everywhere your private lobbying firm can get an ordinance passed that limits the amount of dispensaries in the municipality. That's totally awesome. Not just the same brand of dispensary everywhere BUT it being the ONLY CHOICE because the competition could not afford to play in such a high stakes political game. Ahhh... the sweet smell of monopoly.

I am going to head out this morning and grab a cup of coffee from Starbucks... swing thru the drivethru for an Egg McMuffin. After that I'll go to Target to grab a couple of things for the house. I'll drink my coffee while listening to CNN tell me lies about how GREAT all the standardized corporate gack makes my life, simple, safe and efficient.

I'll take a bunch of small operations over one big one any day. Even though some of them will suck. I just won't go back to those. I want to buy my medicine from people who care for people. Not a statewide cabal with high end political connections, a lobbying firm of their own and zero personal connection with their patients and community.

edit: I want to make a note that I am not making the accusation that Harborside has "zero personal connection with their patients and community" even though my post could be interpreted to say that. I meant to imply that the personal connection is at risk when the mom and pop model gives way to the standardized model. I don;t have enough experience with Harborside to make any comment on their level of service or their involvement with their community. I will let the reviews from those with experience speak to that.

 

[Emperor Herer]

Our deepest apologies BigBudBill and Leon.

Now, piss off and leave us alone. We are 28,000 members strong and WE do NOT have to, in any way, be kind or compassionate to anybody at any time... but we DO have to LOOK like we are... so PISS OFF, just leave your money and GO, be gone with you, you endless supply and source of income, you!

Much love,
HHC OAK

Maybe I miss read that?

 

[Slimm]

We hope to create a model that government officials can approve of. It is important to have a standard.

Sincerely,
HHCSJ

All efforts at improving the customer experience and value are applauded. However, we have been working with a model most government officials can approve of for the better part of the last century. No further government intervention is needed to carry out the intent of 215 and 420. Free markets have a way of Separating the wheat from the chaff. Industry self-regulation would be a much better place to spend your efforts in creating a standard.

 

[BigBudBill]

Maybe I miss read that?

That's pretty much how I read that.

 

[djslife]

I know what you mean. I love it how McDonalds is the same everywhere you go. Standards rock!

Its even better when your "government accepted model" is inserted everywhere your private lobbying firm can get an ordinance passed that limits the amount of dispensaries in the municipality. That's totally awesome. Not just the same brand of dispensary everywhere BUT it being the ONLY CHOICE because the competition could not afford to play in such a high stakes political game. Ahhh... the sweet smell of monopoly.

I am going to head out this morning and grab a cup of coffee from Starbucks... swing thru the drivethru for an Egg McMuffin. After that I'll go to Target to grab a couple of things for the house. I'll drink my coffee while listening to CNN tell me lies about how GREAT all the standardized corporate gack makes my life, simple, safe and efficient.

I'll take a bunch of small operations over one big one any day. Even though some of them will suck. I just won't go back to those. I want to buy my medicine from people who care for people. Not a statewide cabal with high end political connections, a lobbying firm of their own and zero personal connection with their patients and community.

edit: I want to make a note that I am not making the accusation that Harborside has "zero personal connection with their patients and community" even though my post could be interpreted to say that. I meant to imply that the personal connection is at risk when the mom and pop model gives way to the standardized model. I don;t have enough experience with Harborside to make any comment on their level of service or their involvement with their community. I will let the reviews from those with experience speak to that.

I try and tell people in my area the truth about this club. It's a corporation in the making, their prices are rediculous. Don't give this collective your business, the heads of this club are shady people with smiling faces.

-djslife

 

[tallcan]

harborside can't muscle out the california community of growers. its way bigger than them. they're trying to prep for the law to change.

if you're that scared buy some clones from them and have everything that they have

 

[simos]

harborside can't muscle out the california community of growers. its way bigger than them. they're trying to prep for the law to change.

if you're that scared buy some clones from them and have everything that they have

I think I'll pass.

9 out of 10 reviews of their clones on WT say they're infected to high heaven with PM.

Most come from vendors, most of whom are unlikely to be giving out cuts of the strains you'd really want. I once saw a small batch of xxx chem there, but it was straight beaster genetics the other two times I went before asking them to remove me from their patient database.

The only positive thing I can say about HHC is that they have all their flowers tested. I would very much like to see all collectives follow suit.

 

[stickey fingers]

my problem with haborside is they, always ! have sub par meds at top dollar prices, its alot like wallmart ! when i have money to shop, i go to macys right up the street in berkley, same price meds, twice as good quality no j/k . some people cant see the haze from there daze

 

[zenoonez]

I think I'll pass.

9 out of 10 reviews of their clones on WT say they're infected to high heaven with PM.

Most come from vendors, most of whom are unlikely to be giving out cuts of the strains you'd really want. I once saw a small batch of xxx chem there, but it was straight beaster genetics the other two times I went before asking them to remove me from their patient database.

The only positive thing I can say about HHC is that they have all their flowers tested. I would very much like to see all collectives follow suit.

This has always been my problem with buying clones, how do you know what you are getting? You have to trust who you are buying from.

 

[HHC]

harborside can't muscle out the california community of growers. its way bigger than them. they're trying to prep for the law to change.

if you're that scared buy some clones from them and have everything that they have

Tallcan -

We are in no way trying to muscle out the growers. In fact, we fought against having only four major grows in Oakland. It is our belief that the best medicine comes from small growers and that is who we deal with. We are very upset that it seems the small and medium growers are starting to get ousted. Not good!!

So, we have been trying to obtain a permit to open one of the four large grows in Oakland. Our idea - move small growers in to continue what they have done so well for all of us over the years. Instead of creating a large operation and taking over, we want to obtain a permit so that we can invite any/all growers to participate and continue growing their own!

We would like to thank all growers for their incredibly hard work, and we absolutely hope that we can find a way to have you continue what you have been doing for the benefit of all patients!

Much love,
HHC OAK

 

[HHC]

Maybe I miss read that?

These postings are just worrisome. We really don't mind you having your opinions about us, but changing our words in the forum to suit your bashing is incomprehensible and just plain rude. We are trying to assist patients in need and do so for many who genuinely appreciate the work that we put into it - including myself, who is a cancer patient with auto-immune deficiencies.

Thanks you guys.

Much love,
John B. @ HHCOAK