Coco misconception.

[Centrum]

I Have been reading this http://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/163510-coco-growers-unite.html

Im learning that the stuff i have is more like coco pyth , like a ground up coffee, rather then what a lot of people refer to as coco.

I always wondered why they retained so much water.

So because i have FUCKIN BUTTLOAD of this shit, im wondering if i should drop 40/60 Chunky perlite.

40% pyth coco to 60% Chunky Perlite.

What do you guys think.

Thanks

 

[benzo]

wow thanks for the link! good read

 

[indifferent]

Nothing wrong with pith grade coco, the other grades are only needed with larger pot sizes, and if you wanna use large pots then chose another medium.

Coco pith and small pots works wonderfully, many, many people use it, so screw the perlite, it's not at all necessary, just use the coco you have.

That link is just one guy's opinion, not fact.

 

[superbolan]

The coco pith is fine I actually prefer it.

 

[Centrum]

The pyth works fine, its just a misconception is all.
When they say coco coir and your block breaks down to coffee grinds, that not coir.

My problem with the pith is they are retaining too much water for me to properly install a drip system.
So with the pith coco i think i would have an advatage to add atleast 50/50 or 40/60 perlite /coco for optimum results in my enviorment.

I Noticed a bump from 30/70 of the finer perlite to a 40/60 coco/perlite increased production.
At first i thought it was because of the changing from from the fine perlite to chunky perlite, but im starting to think it has to do with air exchange maybe.

Either way thanks for posting

Take care

 

[Lazyman]

Easier to not mix in perlite (I consider anything white in soil evil!) and just stop overwatering it if you're having aeration issues. Or mix in some coco chips with the pith.

 

[cornflake]

considering that a little perlite will increase yields over just coco, I'd say add maybe 25% not 60% perlite

zoo uses perlite/coco mix, good enough for me

 

[Learningfirst]

Sorry for negative Vibe : I don't know that Rollitup site and havn't registered. This site was highly recomended by the seed bank owner and I feel safe here. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

There is Definitely some informative education coming in from your replies though rep+ Centrum

 

[2Lazy]

I concur with the growers here that the pithy type of coco has worked out very well for most without need to cut it. I know that the Botanicare Cocogro compressed bricks are a mix of both fiber and pith, though the fibers are all very short <2". The Boss grow blocks use a pith on the top layer and fiber on the bottom inch or so.

I think for a planter that is taller than it is wide adding a little chunk to the mix is important. I don't know about perlite though, I also think it was made by Satan himself, but maybe the chunky coco in the mix would be all you need. You don't have to add puffed glass if you just use the various grades of coco.

As the person who added the link I'd think you would have thought to use coco croûtons before using perlite.

 

[Smokindogcujo]

Coco misconception.

Easier to not mix in perlite (I consider anything white in soil evil!) and just stop overwatering it if you're having aeration issues. Or mix in some coco chips with the pith.

I agree...water less and the the pots dry a little more before watering again. Once those roots fill he pot (and it won't take long), you'll be able to water every day if you like!

 

[ShroomDr]

So because i have FUCKIN BUTTLOAD of this shit, im wondering if i should drop 40/60 Chunky perlite.

I use the chunky (#4) perlite 25/75 or 30/70, 40/60 could work better in different conditions.

 

[Carl Carlson]

Easier to not mix in perlite (I consider anything white in soil evil!) and just stop overwatering it if you're having aeration issues. Or mix in some coco chips with the pith.

My coco source was all out of cocotek mixed bricks, so I bought a less expensive block of compressed pith (sold by FiberDust LLC) and am mixing 3:1 with Grodan Coco chips.