F*ck with a Bull - consider to get hurt!

[bombadil.360]

Spaniards focus on the passion in all things in life, bull fighting is just one of them..most Westerners focus on the blood and how it's "isn't fair" or "it's cruel".

Spain is conformed by a lot of different people, from Catalans, Basques, Andalusians, Castellanos...

in the Canary Island, it is forbidden to have bull-fights, and the people of Barcelona voted to ban bull-fighting as well.

support for bull-fights in Spain drops exponentially every few years.

so much so, that now the industry that makes profits out of bullfights, is importing bull-fighting into Asia in order to look for the profits being lost in Spain.

and Spain is a Western Culture btw.

 

[headband 707]

Not the Bull's fought ppl act like MORONS LOL LOL LOL ppl deserve what they get if they step in the ring and the fucking sport if you can call it that is played by fucking LOSERS!!!! PERIOD!!! with really ugly cloths lol..peace out Headband707

 

[rafterman]

Ironic the EU criticizing Canada for it's seal hunt with this going on it's backyard.

But this is a cruel and bestial thing to do for entertainment.

 

[feral]

You know where I stand on this StrainHunter.....
Even though I won't watch the vid, it's nice to see our side get whats coming to them for such idiotic actions.

 

[feral]

That still doesn't justify it!

Humans are (supposed to be) intelligent and not like animals who listen to their instincts instead.

That's why Humans should know better and not act like a Cat playing a mouse to death.

The cat is acting due to it's instinct, us Humans do this shit with the Bulls (and other) because we are cruel...and not because we are "above the food chain".


Being above the food chain means "I eat your ass before you eat mine" and not "I can torture what I want when I want just because I feel like it.


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well said.

 

[headband 707]

All MORONS!!!!!

All MORONS!!!!!

Ironic the EU criticizing Canada for it's seal hunt with this going on it's backyard.

But this is a cruel and bestial thing to do for entertainment.

Who says they aren't MORONS too ?? You ever see a guy club a baby seal? Yeah takes a real man to do that fucking shit.. Fucking LOSERS !!! peace out Headband707

 

[lockehead]

How the hell did i get so much negative rep from this thread? I never said i supported bullfighting, i said i was against it. I just thought people should have some respect for other peoples culture.

That still doesn't justify it!

Humans are (supposed to be) intelligent and not like animals who listen to their instincts instead.

That's why Humans should know better and not act like a Cat playing a mouse to death.

The cat is acting due to it's instinct, us Humans do this shit with the Bulls (and other) because we are cruel...and not because we are "above the food chain".


Being above the food chain means "I eat your ass before you eat mine" and not "I can torture what I want when I want just because I feel like it.

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I think most "civilized" societies are overly protective, when they see something like a bullfight they start rationalizing too deeply about whats cruel or whats not. The fact is this is what death looks like, and if societies werent so overly protected, theyd be used to seeing this shit daily. But instead, the images of death are shoved far from societies, into rural cities, where hundreds of animals like cattle and pork are quietly lined up to be slaughtered, disembowled and dismembered.
Also, even though humans and animals are distinctly different, there are still parts of us that you see in the animal kingdom. Things like sex, play, family, and alot of other stuff. Cruelty doesnt even always mean life or death.. Humans do this shit to each other all the time. Some do it with their intellect to control and harm other people. Some do it with their physical abilities, such as in sports when we see athletes "toy" around with others to the amusement of the crowd. Others use violence and pain methods.
It might be hard to swallow, but us humans may just be inherently cruel, though cruel is just a man made word.

 

[Danks2005]

lockehead, I tend to agree with you on the overprotected thing. I have friends, that are country as country can get, and when I visit, it's not uncommon to see 5 gallon buckets full of blood from killing butchering a hog/deer/cow, and what makes some city folk gag and puke, is just another day of filling the freezer for these guys. I have also seen people tie a rabbit to a tree, break its leg, use its cries to bring in the coyote's, shoot the coyote's and leave them their to rot (they are pests to them), then go get the rabbit kill it and make rabbit stew. Where you may perceive, as cruel, to them the rabit is a tool to keep coyote population in check. I personally don't like bull fighting, so I won't go to a bullfight. There are plenty of things I do that people may not agree with moraly, I say don't partake, and don't worry about WTF I do.

Don't rape, murder, or steal, other than that to each his own.

 

[feral]

It's one thing to hunt/torture for sport and another to do it for survival.
Take a look at the Native Americans they used everything from an animal, wasted nothing. To those that do this to feed and clothe their selves and family, etc. I have no issues. But to torture/kill just to prove one's manhood, to put a trophy on ones wall...idiotic.
Lockhead I liked what you said. We pay so much $$$$$ to watch people beat each other heads in in the ring. But IMO most of those that find enjoyment in that BS have problems. 90% of those if you find them some where alone will shit their drawers if faced with something that can hurt/kill them. It's one thing to talk the talk when ones 'boys' are around but how many will/can walk the walk when they are alone? Not many.

 

[Danks2005]

I love UFC, I don't even watch it for the violence, I love the techniques, it's a chessmatch. I am not a violent person, I don't start shit with anyone, and if you start shit with me I will walk away. That said, I don't streetfight period, If you don't let me walk away, it's your ass, I carry a pistol, because humans are animals. If I want to fight I do it in the ring with willing participents, and protection, it is very fun, and good excercise. So don't make a generalization that people that watch ufc "have problems"

If you were to see and hear that rabbit screaming while these guys sit around smoking cigs and drinking budweisers waiting on the coyote's, you would be wiping the tears from your eyes, but to them it's just a good way sight in their rifles, and off some coyotes. Different people and cultures view these kinds of things differently, and thats all there is to it. I see people running dogs, hunting hogs, these guys lose several dogs a year to the hogs, whatever it's just a dog, a tool. Me, I couldn't stand the thought of putting my dog in danger, when there are other ways to hunt hog, but like i said to each his own.

 

[feral]

Dank, let me clarify "having problems'. I.e. self esteem problems. I'm talking about those that having trophy's on a wall or knowing 'everything' about boxers/ufc fighters and think they are the SHIT.
I have always lived by the code..." a true soldier doesn't flaunt himself/herself. But when the shit hits the fan and opportunity presents itself, they rise up and show what a real soldier is. They'll give an ass whipping or take it without having their boys there to back them up. And when it's over it's over. simple as that, no retaliation except in the most extreme cases. i.e. they went after your family.
A real warrior/soldier does not and will notexpose themselves until the right time comes around.
I understand your position on the techniques. Myself, I studied martial arts for years as a teen. Got as far a blue belt, I can scope a varmit from 50 yards with a rifle with no problem. But I'm not gonna go out and kill an animal that I have the 'upper hand' with or go out and talk/flaunt shit just because I know a few moves. That's the attitude that can get one's feelings hurt.
Example: In the early '70's when all the kung fu movies came out a DC martial artist names Jhoon Rhee (No body bothers me) who was famous esp. in the DC area and made a movie in Hollywood got his ass kicked severely buy a 'regular joe blow' who knew how to 'survive' in a regular street fight. What I'm trying to convey here is that alot of people have issues and to prove themselves will use violent methods. It's one thing to hunt but how many will 'hunt' fair and square. Very few!!!! Give em a gun they are good to go. Put em the woods with nothing but themselves for the sport and the turn into bitch real quick.

 

[Danks2005]

I hear you feral. As far as the bullfighting goes, I just look at it like all other things I disagree with, I just don't participate. Because when its me doing something you don't agree with, I just want you to stay the fuck out of my business. I just think that as long as you arent hurting another human being, you should be able to do as you please whether others agree or not. You are welcome to express your views and try to change someones mind, but don't ban the activity, whatever it may be.

 

[Danks2005]

Oh yeah, I have seen the people you speak of, watch some ufc, might even know a few moves, and think they are the shit, and let people know they think they are the shit. These people make me sick, and if they start that shit with me they better be smart enough to let me walk away. Usually though you run into these kinds of folks at the bar, I don't go to the bar for three reasons 1.people like this 2. I don't drink and 3. can't carry concealed in a bar. A lot of people take streetfighting to lightly, it doesn't matter how good you can fight, you don't know how good your opponent is or if he will stop when you are unconscious, I've seen people get the shit kicked out of them bad just cause some drunk asshole feels like picking a fight. I can fight, and I don't pick fights with anyone, ever.

 

[feral]

I hear you feral. As far as the bullfighting goes, I just look at it like all other things I disagree with, I just don't participate. Because when its me doing something you don't agree with, I just want you to stay the fuck out of my business. I just think that as long as you arent hurting another human being, you should be able to do as you please whether others agree or not. You are welcome to express your views and try to change someones mind, but don't ban the activity, whatever it may be.

Cool. I see where ya coming from. Nothing wrong with 'feeling' something is wrong but realistically there will always be a negative to a positive. I might feel positive about one thing and you'll feel negative and vice-versa. But as long as it doesn't affect us or our families directly, express your thoughts and move on. I've always believed that you can't have a pro without a con. It's natural if you think about. It balances things out. But as humans we need to understand that and not tip the scales in our favor to much, because if we do we are screwed big time. Maybe not us directly, but maybe our kids or grandkids will be affected in the long run.
Have a good one.

 

[Paranoid Blunts]

I'm a taurus, i root for the BULL

 

[armedoldhippy]

if a bull puts on a good show & does not shy from contact with the small pikes he is hit with (like in picture) the fighter will normally ask the audience for the "thumbs up/down" like they did in Rome in gladiator days. a good one will almost always be spared & sent out for breeding purposes. i would take a few of those for a job like that. "when in Greece, do as the Greeks do" or stay the hell at home! i assure you, they DON'T CARE what you think. the rest of the world DOES NOT WANT to be the USA, nor do most Americans want to be like mexico/france/etc. if you like mexican/french culture, go there! if not, maybe you should stay home...

 

[headband 707]

ASSHOLES!!!!!

ASSHOLES!!!!!

How the hell did i get so much negative rep from this thread? I never said i supported bullfighting, i said i was against it. I just thought people should have some respect for other peoples culture.



I think most "civilized" societies are overly protective, when they see something like a bullfight they start rationalizing too deeply about whats cruel or whats not. The fact is this is what death looks like, and if societies werent so overly protected, they be used to seeing this shit daily. But instead, the images of death are shoved far from societies, into rural cities, where hundreds of animals like cattle and pork are quietly lined up to be slaughtered, disembowled and dismembered.
Also, even though humans and animals are distinctly different, there are still parts of us that you see in the animal kingdom. Things like sex, play, family, and alot of other stuff. Cruelty doesnt even always mean life or death.. Humans do this shit to each other all the time. Some do it with their intellect to control and harm other people. Some do it with their physical abilities, such as in sports when we see athletes "toy" around with others to the amusement of the crowd. Others use violence and pain methods.
It might be hard to swallow, but us humans may just be inherently cruel, though cruel is just a man made word.

WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!
it's one thing to eat a cow and kill it humanly .. It's a whole different ball game to fucking stab it over and over again like a fucking MORON till it bleeds to death!!!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF ASSHOLE do you have to be to do that to an animal that can't defend itself seriously dude?? ffs. give me a break here!!! fucking loser everyone of them end of story!!!!! Headband707

 

[Danks2005]

Not everyone views animals as you do, just as not everyone views drugs as we do. Why don't you worry about the mass genocide in africa, and forget the damn bull. There are to many atrocities in our own species to be concerned about another. You don't like it, don't go to a bullfight. You won't find me at a bullfight. You cannot legislate morals, period. You just have to deal with it when you don't agree.

 

[Strainhunter]

Not everyone views animals as you do, just as not everyone views drugs as we do. Why don't you worry about the mass genocide in africa, and forget the damn bull.

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Dude...because we are talking about damned Bulls here and not people having ethnic problems somewhere.

 

[bombadil.360]

Not everyone views animals as you do, just as not everyone views drugs as we do. Why don't you worry about the mass genocide in africa, and forget the damn bull. There are to many atrocities in our own species to be concerned about another. You don't like it, don't go to a bullfight. You won't find me at a bullfight. You cannot legislate morals, period. You just have to deal with it when you don't agree.

being concerned for one thing and concerned about another at the same time is not impossible...

caring for humans and caring for animals is not an either or sort of thing; both are not mutually exclusive.

for example, I'm sure some of the people who voted in Barcelona to ban bullfights, also donate money local charities to feed the poor etc...