what happens when u x a f2 with a f2
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I'm not 100% on the title (F3), but it definitely will not lack vigour.
When you breed one plant with another, the resulting seed (progeny) will show 'hybrid vigour'.
Also if you use F2 x F2 expect to get a lot of variations in the resulting progeny.
Check out Chimera's breeding section in Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower’s Bible by Jorge Cervantes. You can view it on-line I think, just Google it.
Hope this helped bigwity?
Peace.
When you breed one plant with another, the resulting seed (progeny) will show 'hybrid vigour'.
Also if you use F2 x F2 expect to get a lot of variations in the resulting progeny.
Check out Chimera's breeding section in Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower’s Bible by Jorge Cervantes. You can view it on-line I think, just Google it.
Hope this helped bigwity?
Peace.
p0opstlnksal0t
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hybrid vigor is more prevelent when crossing 2 homozygous parents of different lines. crossing 2x f2's of the same breeding would be the opposite.... inbreeding depression, which occurs with increasing homozygosity. I would say f1's display the most hybrid vigor, and successively reduces with every generation of homozygous breedings
p0opstlnksal0t
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these would be f3 as they are the 3rd generation
F1 is short for Filial 1, meaning "first offspring
F1 is short for Filial 1, meaning "first offspring
bromhexine
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are we speaking 2 different f2's?
ok here is the story so far a friend of mine bred a lemon skunk type of plant with a haze i brought some bud from him and found four seeds these seeds are f1, i grew them and got 2 lemon indica dom, and 2 haze sativa dom, one of the lemon was a male so im now crossing it with the sativa haze. does that make sense
p0opstlnksal0t
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so you are crossing two f1's of the same breeding not f2's. the offspring will vary wildly. the f1's display more hybrid vigour than the preceding generations unless outcrossed to a new homozygous line. it sounds like neither parents to the f1's you grew out were not stable, if they were you would not see much differences in f1's the differences will be apparent in a breeding of 2x f2's from the same parents where recessive traits will then have more chance to be expressed. what generation were the original parent strains? if they were not at least f3 or higher then they were not stable.
p0opstlnksal0t
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then you will do so by breeding f1's together which is what you are doing. when you find a pheno you want make sure you stabilize it.
p0opstlnksal0t
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its not an easy task to stabilize a strain. many closet breeders dont do this so when they breed out f2 or f3 seeds theyre all different. you never know what your gonna get. if you like what you get out of f1 then just clone from that plant. its alot of work finding f2 phenos that will stabilize the strain your working with, think thousands of plants before you find a couple phenos that match what you are looking for to breed back to one another f4 and f5 begin to get stable and all breedings should produce fewer and fewer hetero phenos. you also gotta remember if the f1's parents werent stable as in like f5 or higher even the f1's will give you alot of different phenos which is what it sounds like happend in your case.
