As title states I'm just curious what the community thinks of limited seed releases? I see both positives and negatives.
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POLL: Do you like limited seed releases??
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mexicangreen420
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limited, depends on the breeder, REZ seems to be a limited one-time-release, small batch kinda guy, that's his niche. i prefer that quality genetics are available to everyone. if everyone buys better seeds, we'll all be growing better weed, and it can only get better from there.
Thanks for votes and replies guys. Like I said before I see benefits and negatives.
Benefits: Can get something that may never be available again and highly desired. Breeders doing this tend to offer more varieties over shorter amounts of time in my limited observation.
Negatives: Forces your hand to buy fast or risk losing out. Hype could get you caught up because you dont have time to properly research. Proper testing relatively rare being these are forced through the breeding process relatively fast.
Since Rez was brought up we can use him as a example of a breeder that favors limited releases. I would say a good example of a breeder that does not favor them is Serious seeds.
Ive bought several rez strains because I was afraid they would be gone ... While Ive yet to purchase any Serious stock although several seem intriguing. It seems in the back of my head I think "that 'insert strain name here' will be there next time I order"
Im still perplexed on the matter Ive yet to vote... lol
Benefits: Can get something that may never be available again and highly desired. Breeders doing this tend to offer more varieties over shorter amounts of time in my limited observation.
Negatives: Forces your hand to buy fast or risk losing out. Hype could get you caught up because you dont have time to properly research. Proper testing relatively rare being these are forced through the breeding process relatively fast.
Since Rez was brought up we can use him as a example of a breeder that favors limited releases. I would say a good example of a breeder that does not favor them is Serious seeds.
Ive bought several rez strains because I was afraid they would be gone ... While Ive yet to purchase any Serious stock although several seem intriguing. It seems in the back of my head I think "that 'insert strain name here' will be there next time I order"
Im still perplexed on the matter Ive yet to vote... lol
Well less supply usually = more demand and this applies to the beans as well as the final product which some growers like.
Really genetics are only as limited as you the buyer/grower make them, that is what sharing is for!
If we all share more then we will all have more.
Really genetics are only as limited as you the buyer/grower make them, that is what sharing is for!
If we all share more then we will all have more.
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JackTheGrower
Just share the love.
If you got some share them. We never know when one random cross will be a major contributor to some new experience.
If you got some share them. We never know when one random cross will be a major contributor to some new experience.
"Underground is a state of mind" C P Hackinbush
If you're not producing anything new ,, then you aren't in a position to diz the people that are!
Ever think that some breeders dont make seeds for the reasons or people you might think they do..
Let's keep it real!
If you're not producing anything new ,, then you aren't in a position to diz the people that are!
Ever think that some breeders dont make seeds for the reasons or people you might think they do..
Let's keep it real!
My experience is limited as Ive only grown 1 such cross and im sure that all such crosses are'nt created equally, but the one i grew led me to believe it wasnt much more than polllen chucking and an attempt by the breeder to milk his reputation.
There hadnt been any work to stabilize anything on the one i grew nor did there seem to be any effort to select for any positive traits. Arent those qualities why growers buy seeds from established breeders rather than just making seeds at home? The seeds i grew were clearly the result of a female being dusted with a male and a "lets sell the seeds" attitude.
I can do that at home. Maybe im picky, but I expect more than that when i buy store bought seeds from professional breeders.
There hadnt been any work to stabilize anything on the one i grew nor did there seem to be any effort to select for any positive traits. Arent those qualities why growers buy seeds from established breeders rather than just making seeds at home? The seeds i grew were clearly the result of a female being dusted with a male and a "lets sell the seeds" attitude.
I can do that at home. Maybe im picky, but I expect more than that when i buy store bought seeds from professional breeders.
harpocrates
Member
Limited releases are a marketing ploy to grab more cash for less work.
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DMXAK47
i only like them if i get the chance to get it if i like it.
but it true though like sensi ,soma , bog, if there strains that will always be there then ill put them off to buy later even if i want it. but when rez makes a small drop ill go for those instead or who ever els has a one time drop. but i will not go over bored and pay crazy amounts on a seed drop.
but it true though like sensi ,soma , bog, if there strains that will always be there then ill put them off to buy later even if i want it. but when rez makes a small drop ill go for those instead or who ever els has a one time drop. but i will not go over bored and pay crazy amounts on a seed drop.
Well less supply usually = more demand and this applies to the beans as well as the final product which some growers like.
Really genetics are only as limited as you the buyer/grower make them, that is what sharing is for!
If we all share more then we will all have more.
I agree bro but inbreeding a polyhybrid leads to tons of phenotype variation and is definately not the same as the original polyhybrid. My understanding is the offspring of the ibl would most likely lean towards one parent or the other and not the combination although not always true.
Rockster
Member
Na man,when my girlfriend gets a pearl necklace she expects a full load
But on a more serious note,no,limited seed releases are a bullshit marketing ploy.
They try to perverse the law of supply and demand by deeming a cachet of exclusivity to a manufactured and non existent scarcity.
And that's bullshit.
But on a more serious note,no,limited seed releases are a bullshit marketing ploy.
They try to perverse the law of supply and demand by deeming a cachet of exclusivity to a manufactured and non existent scarcity.
And that's bullshit.
C
cheesey
if the seeds are limited release ie only 10 or so packs and no more will be made yes i like .
but when some breeders release 10 pack at a very high price then when they are sold they wait a week or 2 and release 100s i think its sucks . just shows the breeder is only in it for the £££ . or should i say $$$$ .
but when some breeders release 10 pack at a very high price then when they are sold they wait a week or 2 and release 100s i think its sucks . just shows the breeder is only in it for the £££ . or should i say $$$$ .
I like limited seed packs at a fair price. I think that it keeps everyone from running the same genetics. I don't like when a hot release comes out and EVERYONE gets it and then that is all anyone is running for months.
With limited seed packs, those lucky few that land them are the ones running them. They can then make more F2 seed for friends and family or they can take Clones for friends and family. But that takes a while to spread out the genetics and that is a wonderful thing in my eyes. Everyone in the cannabis circles running different genetics instead of everyone all running the current fad at the same time.
Here in Mendocino it is a joke right now. Everyone and their Great Grandmas are running O.G. Kush, Master Kush, Berry White and Chemdog x Sour Diesel. So when harvest time, who do they trade smoke to? Who do they move their harvest to? The whole Northern and Southern California areas are going to be flooded with the same O.G. Kush, Master Kush, Berry White and Chemdog x Sour Diesel. Sad, truly Sad.
Not everyone could run those same genetics if everyone didn't have them at the same time (I don't believe in elites and think all genetics should be shared).
Glad I am running "PURE" Thai inside and Deep Chunk and Casey Jones outside.
With limited seed packs, those lucky few that land them are the ones running them. They can then make more F2 seed for friends and family or they can take Clones for friends and family. But that takes a while to spread out the genetics and that is a wonderful thing in my eyes. Everyone in the cannabis circles running different genetics instead of everyone all running the current fad at the same time.
Here in Mendocino it is a joke right now. Everyone and their Great Grandmas are running O.G. Kush, Master Kush, Berry White and Chemdog x Sour Diesel. So when harvest time, who do they trade smoke to? Who do they move their harvest to? The whole Northern and Southern California areas are going to be flooded with the same O.G. Kush, Master Kush, Berry White and Chemdog x Sour Diesel. Sad, truly Sad.
Not everyone could run those same genetics if everyone didn't have them at the same time (I don't believe in elites and think all genetics should be shared).
Glad I am running "PURE" Thai inside and Deep Chunk and Casey Jones outside.
ALL seed packs at fritillary seed collective are limited release,,, in the sense that lines are sourced from small underground breeder's,, and their personal hybrid or inbred seed stocks.
After growing and out-testing,, the seeds are reasonably priced and made available to everyone for a limited time period - while packs last. There's no harm in that,, especially when we donate more seeds than we sell.
Conversely,, as an underground seed collective,, any seeds that FRT have bulk / lots of ,, then we are far more inclined to send them out raggo as freebies... than sell them on the open market.
We agree with reservation lab
Limited edition seeds are normally given more attention by growers,, cloned out or made F2,, afterwhich the "limited" aspect tends to grow out the window,, as loads of growers get a chance at playing with the same genetics.
Sour Diesel IBL and C99 IBL are great examples,, we have both packs someplace,, and never paid a penny for them
One last thing,,, limited edition doesn't always have to mean a high price,, that's BS
,,,FRT often let packs go for as little as $15-20 ,, regardless of how dank the genetics in the pack are (just click the butterfly link below for more info.)
Hope this helps
After growing and out-testing,, the seeds are reasonably priced and made available to everyone for a limited time period - while packs last. There's no harm in that,, especially when we donate more seeds than we sell.
Conversely,, as an underground seed collective,, any seeds that FRT have bulk / lots of ,, then we are far more inclined to send them out raggo as freebies... than sell them on the open market.
We agree with reservation lab
Limited edition seeds are normally given more attention by growers,, cloned out or made F2,, afterwhich the "limited" aspect tends to grow out the window,, as loads of growers get a chance at playing with the same genetics. Sour Diesel IBL and C99 IBL are great examples,, we have both packs someplace,, and never paid a penny for them
One last thing,,, limited edition doesn't always have to mean a high price,, that's BS
,,,FRT often let packs go for as little as $15-20 ,, regardless of how dank the genetics in the pack are (just click the butterfly link below for more info.)
Hope this helps
C
cheesey
ALL seed packs at fritillary seed collective are limited release,,, in the sense that lines are sourced from small underground breeder's,, and their personal hybrid or inbred seed stocks.
After growing and out-testing,, the seeds are reasonably priced and made available to everyone for a limited time period - while packs last. There's no harm in that,, especially when we donate more seeds than we sell.
Conversely,, as an underground seed collective,, any seeds that FRT have bulk / lots of ,, then we are far more inclined to send them out raggo as freebies... than sell them on the open market.
We agree with reservation lab
Sour Diesel IBL and C99 IBL are great examples,, we have both packs someplace,, and never paid a penny for them
One last thing,,, limited edition doesn't always have to mean a high price,, that's BS
,,,FRT often let packs go for as little as $15-20 ,, regardless of how dank the genetics in the pack are (just click the butterfly link below for more info.)
Hope this helps
doc FRT SEEDS are here to help the massives with great priced seeds , but other breeders DO price the limited editions very high $200 ( not saying who but i think you know ) some are even untested .
2bh i gave away around 300 of my autos so people can do test grows for me and write reports .unlike others who just sell untessed beans for high prices .
Thanks CheeseHead
There is a small niche market for breeders with seed stock that isn't available to the isolated grower. We know plenty growers that don't socialise don't swap clones,, they just buy some seeds and keep themselves to themselves. These Growers have every right to buy an expensive pack of seed genetics,, just like they would an expensive bottle of wine ,, and enjoy it.
Where/when "limited seed" varieties are marketed out and pimped by thugs to mugs at stupid prices,, and especially when medi. users are involved,, (like clones are in places) then yeah,, that's gash!
So yeah,, limited edition seeds can push weed prices up,, which is NOT GOOD cause erbs a plant,, and after the soil n lighting bills,, package and postage*,, whats left?
We see it that when you buy a pack of seeds you then OWN the genetics (like a dog),, so breed them off and make everyone merry !
One love!
package and postage* : to promote something for FREE you have to spend money,, cause NOTHINGS FOR FREE!
There is a small niche market for breeders with seed stock that isn't available to the isolated grower. We know plenty growers that don't socialise don't swap clones,, they just buy some seeds and keep themselves to themselves. These Growers have every right to buy an expensive pack of seed genetics,, just like they would an expensive bottle of wine ,, and enjoy it.
Where/when "limited seed" varieties are marketed out and pimped by thugs to mugs at stupid prices,, and especially when medi. users are involved,, (like clones are in places) then yeah,, that's gash!
So yeah,, limited edition seeds can push weed prices up,, which is NOT GOOD cause erbs a plant,, and after the soil n lighting bills,, package and postage*,, whats left?
We see it that when you buy a pack of seeds you then OWN the genetics (like a dog),, so breed them off and make everyone merry !
One love!
package and postage* : to promote something for FREE you have to spend money,, cause NOTHINGS FOR FREE!
"limited" seedlots are made from amateurs with "limited" knowledge of seedline improvement, who have "limited" facilities, "limited" seed plants, "limited" pollen, and/or "limited" foresight to make a properly scaled seedlot.
is that who you like to get your seeds from?
hahahhhh. probably.
any other excuse is BS and you should be aware of this.
is that who you like to get your seeds from?
hahahhhh. probably.
any other excuse is BS and you should be aware of this.
