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Lethoso and AIDS.

Hash Zeppelin

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So I was looking at an HD video of this beautiful country, so I wikied it, and found some bad news. I knew aids in africa was really bad, but I did not know it was to this extent. This is enough to deture me from visiting the country at all. I can just picture my self getting a cut , and some how getting AIDS in it. I know that sounds to fearful, and possibly ignorant, but my gut says dont go.

Health

Infant mortality is at about 8.3 %.[19] There are 5 physicians per 100,000 persons.[20]
[edit] HIV/AIDS

Lesotho is severely afflicted by HIV/AIDS. According to recent estimates, the prevalence is about 23.2%, one of the highest in the world.[21] In urban areas, about 50% of women under 40 have HIV. Lesotho Bureau of Statistics stated that in 2001 life expectancy was estimated at 48 years for men and 56 for women.[citation needed] Recent statistics estimate about 37 years.[citation needed] According to the CIA's World Factbook, the average life expectancy is 41.18 for men and 39.54 for women.[14]

The government of Lesotho was initially slow to recognize the scale of the crisis, and its efforts to date in combating the spread of the disease have had limited success. In 1999, the government finalized its Strategic Plan on HIV/AIDS, a diagram for addressing the education, prevention, counseling, and treatment needs of the populace. In late 2003, the government announced that it was forming a new National AIDS Commission to coordinate society-wide anti-AIDS activities. Also in 2003 the government hosted a SADC Extraordinary Summit on HIV/AIDS.[citation needed]

In 2005, programs for the distribution of anti-retrovirals (ARVs) were initiated. One such program is in Hlotse, Leribe at Tsepong Clinic which is part of Motebang Hospital. However, such programs remain limited in resources and have relatively few participants.[citation needed]

The government has started a proactive program called "Know your status" to test everyone in the country who wants to be tested for HIV. The program is funded by the Clinton Foundation and started in June 2006. Bill Clinton and Microsoft chairman Bill Gates visited Lesotho in July 2006 to assess its fight against AIDS.[citation needed]

The Apparel Lesotho Alliance to Fight AIDS (ALAFA) is an industry-wide program providing prevention and treatment, including ARVs when these are necessary, for the 46,000 mainly women workers in the Lesotho apparel industry. It was launched in May 2006. The program is helping to combat two of the key drivers of the HIV/AIDS epidemic: poverty and gender inequality. Surveys within the industry by ALAFA show that 43% of employers have HIV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesotho#HIV.2FAIDS
 

BadTicket

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I was there a year ago. AIDS and death are around and the latter especially, is big business. You'd see a mortician office every 30 kilometers of road or so.. They said something like 30% of new born babies are HIV positive, and if this trend continues, the Basuto people will be extinct soon.

But still, i would go back in a heart beat if i had the time and money.
Mostly friendly peeps and a laid back feeling, buds were ok, a bit touristy, prolly woulda been better if i'd know someone or had more time to search.. Maseru, the capital of Lesotho wasn't that nice. Very loud and kinda dry of things to do, so to speak.. Country side was great :) Getting around was hard too, we rented a car from South-Africa, but it was kinda hard to find gas in Lesotho. But still a great place for some backpacking and seeing the other side of life.. Makes u appreciate yours more........ If you're not paranoid about getting AIDS, go while you still can!

 

mriko

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Would Lesotho be allowed to trade its native cannabis production, they would have had the funds to counter the dramatic spread of AIDS (same for Swaziland where the illenss is rampant as well).
Another example of why cannabis prohibition is a true crime against humanity...

Irie !
 
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sparkjumper

It wouldn't have a thing to do with the epidemic,it's culturally ingrained in most African countries that a man does not use a condom.Plain and simple.We keep sending them money and try to educate and for what?To save who?If they dont want to change their cultural taboos then the fuck with them,let them fuck themselves to death so to say
 

robbiedublu

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Unfortunately, retrovirals only keep people with aids alive, not cure them. If their behavior doesn't change this will just allow them to spread the virus even more.
I can't think of any reason I would want to travel anywhere in Africa. There are just too many other interesting and beautiful places in the world to bother.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^this is my attitude, as well. Africa is second to last on the list. antartica being last.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

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It's really unfair to blame poor African countries for having such high rates of HIV/AIDS. Especially when you take into consideration that HIV/AIDS is a lab made bio-weapon, its origins eminating from the Fort Detrik in Maryland. Ft. Detrik is HQ's for the US Miltary Bio Weapons Lab, and also happens to be the HQ's for the US National Institue of Health (NIH) .

From the Online Journal, here's a article by Jerry Mazza :

The polio vaccine, AIDS, and their US-made viruses

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2830.shtml

Still not convinced...?? Check out what Dr. Alan Cantwell has to say about it.

http://rense.com/Datapages/drcantwelldata.htm

Still think I'm full of it...?? Watch what Dr. Maurice Hilleman, a respected high profile vaccine researcher has to say.....:fsu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgBBwOnmy3w&feature=related

Nothing but conspiracy theory....right....??.....right.......

Chronic Diseases: Who's killing us, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU12h6lWi9I

Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI&feature=related

Dr. Mary's Monkey

http://trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Dr_Mary.html

Listen to the interview with the author, Ed Haslam on Deadline Live with Jack Blood. It's in the second hour of the show . MP3 link here :

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Jack-Blood-32k-061609.mp3

My, My....what do we have here...?? Oh....it's only a US Patent issued by the US Patent office for the cure for AIDS. Watch the video on google :

AIDS CURE: U.S. Patent #5676977

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8567399552051355527#

HIV/AIDS is a huge multi-billion dollar business. Not only does big pharma and wall street make huge profits, it also unfortunately ties in with the New World Order asshole's who beleive that there's too many people in the world. By keeping Africa poor, illiterate, and stricken with HIV/AIDS, they not only can control and dominate the entire continent, exploiting their vast deposit's of precious metals and oil, but they also further their goals w/r/t eugenics.

Remember, it's just business, so don't take it personally........:lightning: :rant:
 
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cork144

It's really unfair to blame poor African countries for having such high rates of HIV/AIDS. Especially when you take into consideration that HIV/AIDS is a lab made bio-weapon, its origins eminating from the Fort Meade Military Base in Maryland. Ft. Meade is HQ's for the US Miltary Bio Weapons Lab, and also happens to be the HQ's for the US National Institue of Health (NIH) .

From the Online Journal, here's a article by Jerry Mazza :

The polio vaccine, AIDS, and their US-made viruses

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2830.shtml

Still not convinced...?? Check out what Dr. Alan Cantwell has to say about it.

http://rense.com/Datapages/drcantwelldata.htm

Still think I'm full of it...?? Watch what Dr. Maurice Hilleman, a respected high profile vaccine researcher has to say.....:fsu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgBBwOnmy3w&feature=related

Nothing but conspiracy theory....right....??.....right.......

Chronic Diseases: Who's killing us, and how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU12h6lWi9I

Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI&feature=related

Dr. Mary's Monkey

http://trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Dr_Mary.html

My, My....what do we have here...?? Oh....it's only a US Patent issued by the US Patent office for the cure for AIDS. Watch the video on google :

AIDS CURE: U.S. Patent #5676977

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8567399552051355527#

HIV/AIDS is a huge multi-billion dollar business. Not only does big pharma and wall street make huge profits, it also unfortunately ties in with the New World Order asshole's who beleive that there's too many people in the world. By keeping Africa poor, illiterate, and stricken with HIV/AIDS, they not only can control and dominate the entire continent, exploiting their vast deposit's of precious metals and oil, but they also further their goals w/r/t eugenics.

Remember, it's just business, so don't take in personally........:lightning: :rant:

i think its a damn shame those places are the testing grounds for mass genocide.
 

Yes4Prop215

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not all of africa is bad...ive always wanted to go to lake malawi
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just keep your trouser snake outside of any aids infested snatch and you will be good!
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^I dont blame them, but I am scared of the disease for sure. I do do one night stands in bars either cause of that.
 

gws35

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"It's really unfair to blame poor African countries for having such high rates of HIV/AIDS. Especially when you take into consideration that HIV/AIDS is a lab made bio-weapon, its origins eminating from the Fort Detrik in Maryland. Ft. Detrik is HQ's for the US Miltary Bio Weapons Lab, and also happens to be the HQ's for the US National Institue of Health (NIH) ."

Yea and the US Govt blew up the WTC and man never actually landed on the moon.....if you believe that bs ive got land to sell ya in antartica.....hiv originated pre 1950 in West Africa from a cross infection between a chimpanzee and a human (hiv is a disease native to chimps...weve got almost the same genetics as them....99.9% If I remember correctly)

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/definitions.htm

I feel terrible for the African people, or anyone who contracts this horrible disease, but THEYVE gotta change their promiscuious lifestyle or use condoms.....theyve gotta help themselves...all the meds or condoms in the world wont help if they refuse to change their behavior...

And to the idiots who blame the US for every bad thing that happens on the planet why not fly over to africa and bang as many hookers as possible...just do it bareback
 

gws35

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Yea and the US Govt blew up the WTC and man never actually landed on the moon.....if you believe that bs ive got land to sell ya in antartica.....hiv originated pre 1950 in West Africa from a cross infection between a chimpanzee and a human (hiv is a disease native to chimps...weve got almost the same genetics as them....99.9% If I remember correctly)

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/definitions.htm

I feel terrible for the African people, or anyone who contracts this horrible disease, but THEYVE gotta change their promiscuious lifestyle or use condoms.....theyve gotta help themselves...all the meds or condoms in the world wont help if they refuse to change their behavior...

And to the idiots who blame the US for every bad thing that happens on the planet why not fly over to africa and bang as many hookers as possible...just do it bareback
 
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sparkjumper

Well put GWS.Again culturally ingrained practices are difficult to change,but even with life and death involved its not enough to make an African man wear a condom.Bush sent more money for education and rubbers than any previous president,that evil pres. Bush.An estimated 90% of truck drivers on the entire continent are HIV positive so we really kind of missed the boat,Thats why I;m not for sending another dime to an African country to fight HIV when they refuse to help themselves by making lifestyle changes.
 

bombadil.360

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some of you guys are in deep denial... in the west, screwing girls without condoms is also a very common practice; so lets keep the hypocrisy outside please. the only difference is that in the west, there is just less risk of getting aids by having sex without a condom, this is why there are less infections; not because there is less unprotected sex, get real.

plus, it is a known fact that aids originated by culturing vaccines in infected medium, and this was done knowingly; and the vaccines were given indiscriminately throughout Africa.

everyone should learn to have safe-sex, not only in Africa (which they indeed do need to learn), but that is not the root of the problem, it is only a branch.

the root already passed, and it was Africa the continent that was targeted.

why, who knows, it is up to debate; what is not up to debate is how aids originated in Africa.
 

gws35

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No denial or hypocrisy here...the discussion was about the incredibly high aids/hiv rate in lesotho africa NOT the west....should everyone practice safe sex with an unknown partner? Absoulutely....

So let me put it this way, if there was a 50% chance the woman you were gonna bang had aids would you ride her ass bareback? Anyone with three brain cells in ther head is not gonna chance it....

And speaking of three brain cells...do you honestly believe the us govt. whipped up some good ol hiv in a test tube and spread it around Africa? Get real.....
 

bombadil.360

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No denial or hypocrisy here...the discussion was about the incredibly high aids/hiv rate in lesotho africa NOT the west....should everyone practice safe sex with an unknown partner? Absoulutely....

So let me put it this way, if there was a 50% chance the woman you were gonna bang had aids would you ride her ass bareback? Anyone with three brain cells in ther head is not gonna chance it....

And speaking of three brain cells...do you honestly believe the us govt. whipped up some good ol hiv in a test tube and spread it around Africa? Get real.....


if I had three brain cells (that is up to debate lol) I would not even had sex with a stranger, period.

even if there was no 50% chance but less, I'd not do it unprotected; there is more to think about besides aids...

regarding the U.S spreading hiv, I dunno if it was the U.S per se; and hiv was not created, it was already present in the kidney tissues where vaccines were cultured. eventually mutating into all sorts of forms.

the evidence suggests this was how Africa got infected so quickly and consistently.

just google: vaccines and the origin of aids.

and read on...
 

SOTF420

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I know some people will possibly disagree with this but really the only way to eliminate this terrible disease is to humanely eliminate everyone who is currently a carrier, & not keep them alive to infect others. Harsh truth, but it's the only way to do it for the good of humanity I'm afraid.

The massive pharma industry's profits and the population control plans that go along with this disease (which I believe is man made) all rely on it staying around in live people & being further spread.
 

smoke1sun

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if I had three brain cells (that is up to debate lol) I would not even had sex with a stranger, period.

even if there was no 50% chance but less, I'd not do it unprotected; there is more to think about besides aids...




and read on...

Church.

So let me put it this way, if there was a 50% chance the woman you were gonna bang had aids would you ride her ass bareback? Anyone with three brain cells in ther head is not gonna chance it....


"Hey you got AIDS."

"Yeah"

"Ok I'll wear a rubber"

I got some land i wanna sell back to you gws35
 

SOTF420

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Also would like to add, as a male the chance of contracting HIV is very low from an infected female. But for females the chance is very high to contract it from a male, same goes for males having anal sex with another male - the chance to contract is very high.

Also, the HIV virus is small enough it can readily pass through an average latex condom but it takes more than that usually to cause infection and after ejaculation the male usually withdrawals before any real transmission of the virus takes place. Believe it!

Scary shit, a shame really for all of us since there can be no more "free love" sex wise.

We live in an infected world and it fucking sucks! :puke:
 
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