Somalia Pirates: "Until then, we'll have to do what our forefathers did when they met

[Strainhunter]

Somalia Pirates: "Until then, we'll have to do what our forefathers did when they met

Although I don't necessarily always agree with how Russia has been handling things they have done the right thing:


They set them adrift!

"sent home," unarmed and without navigational devices, in the small boats they had used to approach the tanker.


Way to go IMHO!

On another note, and this is from the Russian President himself:

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had hinted Thursday at tough punishment for the pirates, saying "perhaps we should get back to the idea of establishing an international court and other legal tools" to prosecute pirates. "Until then, we'll have to do what our forefathers did when they met the pirates," he said.

The whole article:

link:
Russia says pirates who held tanker are freed

 

[SOTF420]

Shark bait I say

 

[daddy fingaz]

please read and consider .....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/you-are-being-lied-to-abo_b_155147.html

 

[GHUA]

I, like daddy above me, think we should consider what has happened to this country and why the pirates are there in the first place! Sure, the pirates are not our favorite people, but before condemning these people, at least let us try to understand where they come from!

I'm just sayin'... Smoke a joint and feel the compassion that comes from knowing both sides of the story!

 

[SOTF420]

Okay, not shark bait then - just shoot them in the head for humanity sake.

 

[Ontariostoner]

Pirates were hanged, drawn and quartered.

That meant they weren't dead from hanging - they were hanged, then cut down while alive, and butchered, slowly, until dead.

Repeat offenders dropped to virtually nil.

I'm protesting the Somali pirates by not taking any taxi rides. That'll hit them where they live (in my city, in free housing, w/ free medical, schooling and transportation).

 

[Strainhunter]

I, like daddy above me, think we should consider what has happened to this country and why the pirates are there in the first place! Sure, the pirates are not our favorite people, but before condemning these people, at least let us try to understand where they come from!

......

Oh I do understand...but I rather care about my own people than them!

And if it was me...every single one of them would be blown out of the water for what they are doing.

Then let's see how much longer they would be terrorizing those waterways...



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[daddy fingaz]

Some of you guys are showing a lot of ignorance....id would rather have been a pirate than in the royal Navy!!

Pirates have never been quite who we think they are. In the "golden age of piracy" - from 1650 to 1730 - the idea of the pirate as the senseless, savage thief that lingers today was created by the British government in a great propaganda-heave. Many ordinary people believed it was false: pirates were often rescued from the gallows by supportive crowds. Why? What did they see that we can't? In his book Villains of All nations, the historian Marcus Rediker pores through the evidence to find out. If you became a merchant or navy sailor then - plucked from the docks of London's East End, young and hungry - you ended up in a floating wooden Hell. You worked all hours on a cramped, half-starved ship, and if you slacked off for a second, the all-powerful captain would whip you with the Cat O' Nine Tails. If you slacked consistently, you could be thrown overboard. And at the end of months or years of this, you were often cheated of your wages.

Pirates were the first people to rebel against this world. They mutinied against their tyrannical captains - and created a different way of working on the seas. Once they had a ship, the pirates elected their captains, and made all their decisions collectively. They shared their bounty out in what Rediker calls "one of the most egalitarian plans for the disposition of resources to be found anywhere in the eighteenth century." They even took in escaped African slaves and lived with them as equals. The pirates showed "quite clearly - and subversively - that ships did not have to be run in the brutal and oppressive ways of the merchant service and the Royal navy." This is why they were popular, despite being unproductive thieves.

 

[Pinball Wizard]

They set them adrift!

"sent home," unarmed and without navigational devices, in the small boats they had used to approach the tanker.

I wonder who the forefather is?.....(once KGB, always KGB)...

"Revenge is a dish; best served, cold!"

 

[GHUA]

Some of you guys are showing a lot of ignorance....id would rather have been a pirate than in the royal Navy!!

I agree (although it wouldn't have been a comfortable life). There is a reason this is happening, and a reason they are doing what they are doing. I think its a sign of modern society to not actually research reasons the world is what it is. As a general rule we eat up whatever fox or CNN throws at us without critical thinking or questioning. I find it sad and I cant help by wondering how far we are going to take the ignorance, and who is next in line?
"Oh I do understand...but I rather care about my own people than them!"
I guess I understand the sentiment for always looking out for your immediate friends and "people". However, I believe neither questioning nor caring is so limited in humans that we can only see it one way or the other. I simply don't believe there should be a "rather" in there, since it means you can only chose one. I think we all have the capacity to be empathic and understanding towards several "people".

 

[Kalicokitty]

Hey Daddy, no matter how much that article trys to justify piracy by the somalies, they're still armed thieves, would you feel differently if they robbed you in an ally rather then from a boat? They mis managed the shit out of their own country and resources and now were just supposed to look the other way when they hit the seas robbing and murdering people?
I think not.

 

[Kalicokitty]

Anyone remember blackhawk down?
We tried to remove a warlord who was cutting off humanitrian aide from reaching the people and what did they do?
Drag our soilders bodies around the streets dancing and singing.
Did you also know that the day of that occurance(black hawk down) is celebrated every year as a national holiday there now?
Fuck them and their pirates, bunch of ignorant murdering savages.

 

[Chief]

arrrr

 

[daddy fingaz]

Anyone remember blackhawk down?
We tried to remove a warlord who was cutting off humanitrian aide from reaching the people and what did they do?
Drag our soilders bodies around the streets dancing and singing.
Did you also know that the day of that occurance(black hawk down) is celebrated every year as a national holiday there now?
Fuck them and their pirates, bunch of ignorant murdering savages.

Silly me how could i forget Blackhawk down, without which i would never even heard of somalia, silly me the US/UN were just trying to spread 'Democracy'! il go back to sleep now!

 

[Kalicokitty]

Silly me how could i forget Blackhawk down, without which i would never even heard of somalia, silly me the US/UN were just trying to spread 'Democracy'! il go back to sleep now!

That's all you've got to say about it? Lol.
The US for once was actually trying to help the people with no ulterior motives, why do you think we got the F out immediatly when shit hit the fan?
Because there's no natural resources over there for us to exploit like oil.

We are also trying to "spread democracy" to IRAQ, where shit also hit the fan, but we stayed, why? Greedy US and it's thirst for oil.

Both missions to "Spread democracy" and "help the people"
Difference?
When a dozen plus guys got killed in somalia, we couldn't leave fast enough.
5000 + dead soilders later in iraq and were still there, hmmmm, we must really really want to spread democracy in Iraq I guess

 

[GHUA]

We are also trying to "spread democracy" to IRAQ, where shit also hit the fan, but we stayed, why? Greedy US and it's thirst for oil.

Both missions to "Spread democracy" and "help the people"
Difference?
When a dozen plus guys got killed in somalia, we couldn't leave fast enough.
5000 + dead soilders later in iraq and were still there, hmmmm, we must really really want to spread democracy in Iraq I guess

FYI: Oxford just changed the definition of this term "spreading democracy" to mean; ALL YOUR OIL BELONGS TO US!

 

[arcticsun]

HARR HARR.. Viking in the house








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8_F4Yk2-cA&NR=1

 

[armedoldhippy]

piracy then & piracy now are two different birds, & anyone that doesn't understand that is fooling themselves. yes, Somalia is a wasteland. yep, lots of them are starving. BUT, what passes for a "govt" over there won't allow the UN to bring in humanitarian aid. if these "pirates" want to attack the root of their problems, they need to quit looking at ships passing by & kill a pile of their own countrymen. if it was me, i would send out helicopters w/mini-guns & sink every boat out there that the occupants were not actually tending their fishing nets. those that made it back to shore would not go out again...

 

[armedoldhippy]

FYI: Oxford just changed the definition of this term "spreading democracy" to mean; ALL YOUR OIL BELONGS TO US!

what utter bullshit! if true, we would have invaded Venezuela, Nigeria etc already. what we are trying to do(and failing miserably at, admittedly) is stabilize the middle east so the entire worlds economy doesn't go down a rats hole because those morons won't stop shooting each other up over imagined/real offenses. every developed country on this planet depends on oil at this point. we don't steal the oil, it all goes on sale on the open world market, & no, we don't set the price nor get the cash either. the fields are auctioned off by way of sealed bids, & the winners ARE NOT PICKED by the US. some of you folks are so stupid that it is truly frightening. bring on the negative rep, you brain dead fools! see if i give a shit!

 

[Maria_Vanessa]

what utter bullshit! if true, we would have invaded Venezuela, Nigeria etc already. what we are trying to do(and failing miserably at, admittedly) is stabilize the middle east so the entire worlds economy doesn't go down a rats hole because those morons won't stop shooting each other up over imagined/real offenses. every developed country on this planet depends on oil at this point. we don't steal the oil, it all goes on sale on the open world market, & no, we don't set the price nor get the cash either. the fields are auctioned off by way of sealed bids, & the winners ARE NOT PICKED by the US. some of you folks are so stupid that it is truly frightening. bring on the negative rep, you brain dead fools! see if i give a shit!

We've been trying to "stabilize" the Middle East for centuries now. It still isn't working and it never will work.

The United States doesn't have a vested interest in Venezuela and Nigeria as it does the Middle East. Regardless of current Venezuelan government decisions, it has a system that resembles a democracy and has China and Russia as allies. The last thing the U.S. wants to do is invade a country within the same hemisphere as it.

Nor does the United States have any interest in going into any country in African continent. If millions of women getting raped and another million people starving in Durfur doesn't spur American intervention, then nothing will. I think the top brass of the American military is still weary about another repeat of Mogadishu.

The United States has done a wonderful job with sending down the world's economy into a rat hole, don't you agree? The U.S. has placed plenty of Western-learning leaders into positions of power, Karzai, being one of them. Unfortunetly, none of them last as long. This is Karzai's second time back as a ruling puppet in Afghanistan. The last time I read, he is still trying to "intergrate" the Taliban into the government.