I got some kind of problem

[kingspade]

Hey,

Here's a link to my grow:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=171442

My lower fan leafs are turning yellow and getting spotty.

I do have some mites right now, I'm using Azamax to combat them. I ordered some Floramite, and should get that tomorrow. Is it a problem caused by my bug issue, or something else? I thought maybe not enough food, so I bumped up the nutrients, but that's not working.

 

[bombadil.360]

could be mite related... do you have wet-feet? similar things also happens when one over-waters...

 

[kingspade]

good call bomb
i didn't have a timer for my pump, so i had been going in and plugging and unplugging the pump at lights off, but i usually over sleep, and pump runs for hours when lights are out.
i went and picked up a timer for the pump, now it's on the same cycle as the lights.
i was also thinking, do you think two 1 gallon per hour drippers is too much? think i should bump down to just one 1 gallon per hour dripper per bucket?

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

could be mite related... do you have wet-feet? similar things also happens when one over-waters...

wait.

good call bomb
i didn't have a timer for my pump, so i had been going in and plugging and unplugging the pump at lights off, but i usually over sleep, and pump runs for hours when lights are out.
i went and picked up a timer for the pump, now it's on the same cycle as the lights.
i was also thinking, do you think two 1 gallon per hour drippers is too much? think i should bump down to just one 1 gallon per hour dripper per bucket?

ive ran 10's of grows with the pump on 24/7 and not had this happen.
that all looks l,ike normal; nitro def at end of bloom
. or nitro def from overflush/underfeed in midveg/early flower.
and / or ph swing.

 

[kingspade]

ive ran 10's of grows with the pump on 24/7 and not had this happen.
that all looks l,ike normal; nitro def at end of bloom
. or nitro def from overflush/underfeed in midveg/early flower.
and / or ph swing.

hey digital hippy,

i have my plants in 4"x4" rockwool cubes in the hydroton, i always heard if you have rockwool, don't drip at night, only drip during lights on. if your plants are directly in hydroton, then you want a contact drip\stream.

my plants are in their 2nd week of 12/12.

i thought it was underfeeding at first, so i kicked up the nutrients a little, i'm around 1000ppm now.

i know some lower leafs die off towards the end of flower, or when the plants get big, but their still kinda small right now.

it started with the lower leafs turning yellow and brown spots, but now it's moving up the plants, going higher, the middle of my plants now have yellowing and drying up leafs.

here's some pictures i just snapped.

 

[bombadil.360]

how good is your ventilation? temps? relative humidity?

how is the mite issue doing?

I have no knowledge on hydro and this particular style of growing, I thought you were in soil when I first replied.

can one get root-bound in that system you are using? similar looking symptoms happens to me when my ladies get root-bound.

good luck!

 

[Batboy]

can one get root-bound in that system you are using? similar looking symptoms happens to me when my ladies get root-bound.

Sorry to hijack, but I subscribed to this thread because many of those pics from the first post look like what I've got going on. My plants were vegged longer than I had planned, are in soil and are in fairly small pots for the size of the plants, so rootbound-ness is very likely.

What can be done to keep the plant healthy enough for a strong finish? I am at Day 35 of 12/12 so transplanting is not an option. What do you do bombadil when your girls got rootbound? What exactly is happening to the plant when the leaves start to look like that due to being rootbound? Is it just that the roots are no longer able to adequately pass sufficient nutrients back up to the plant, so the plant shows a whole slew of deficiencies?

 

[kingspade]

bomb - all those are good, got good ventilation, temps are good 74-78 during lights on, and dip down to about 72 with lights out. humidity i'm not sure about, i broke my humidity meter a few months ago, and never got around to getting a new one, just because it was never an issue.

mites are still there, someone told me to try some floramite, so i picked up a small bottle of that, and sprayed em down yesterday.

don't think i can get root-bound. there hangin in 5 gallon buckets, roots for plenty of room in there.

 

[GREANTHUMB]

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[bombadil.360]

What can be done to keep the plant healthy enough for a strong finish? I am at Day 35 of 12/12 so transplanting is not an option. What do you do bombadil when your girls got rootbound? What exactly is happening to the plant when the leaves start to look like that due to being rootbound? Is it just that the roots are no longer able to adequately pass sufficient nutrients back up to the plant, so the plant shows a whole slew of deficiencies?

hello Batboy,

what you can do without having to transplant is to place your buckets on top of bigger buckets that have a good soil in them, so the roots from the bucket you are already using can go into that new soil through the drain-holes.

What happens when a plant gets root-bound is that the bucket gets saturated with root-mass, and it becomes suffocated, so to speak. and yes, it becomes deficient because the root-mass becomes stressed and unable to uptake the nutes.

good luck!


Kingspade, I wish I could be more helpful man, but I'm a soil grower, and I don't understand why this is happening to you when I consider your medium.

Have you ever grown in soil?

much peace and good luck

 

[Centrum]

Looks like fungus too me.

 

[kingspade]

I think I finally pinned it.
Root-Bound.
They were in a DWC system, in 6" netpots, when I took them out of the DWC and put into the drip system, the roots were all balled up and smashed together between the netpot and the hydroton I put on the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket lid.
I went and got some regular 5 gallon bucket lids from Home Depot, for under a buck each, and put 6" holes into 'em and put the netpots in those.
It's been a few days now, and the roots have sprouted fresh new white healthy roots. The old roots were just a hard light brown ball.
So that's what it was, root bound.

 

[angel4us]

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[Batboy]

hello Batboy,

what you can do without having to transplant is to place your buckets on top of bigger buckets that have a good soil in them, so the roots from the bucket you are already using can go into that new soil through the drain-holes.

I was under the impression that by mid-flowering (I'm now at Day 38), the roots were done growing and transplanting/putting the pots on top of new soil won't do any good. Do you think that Day 35 plants (not 120+ days pure sativas) are still putting out new roots that could help with nute uptake?

kingspade - congrats on finding and fixing your problem. Sounds like we've got the same problem, but I'm in soil, way into flowering and potentially screwed.

 

[tokinafaty420]

Those plants are hungry, looks exactly like they do a week before harvast.

 

[bombadil.360]

I was under the impression that by mid-flowering (I'm now at Day 38), the roots were done growing and transplanting/putting the pots on top of new soil won't do any good. Do you think that Day 35 plants (not 120+ days pure sativas) are still putting out new roots that could help with nute uptake?

Batboy, if you think your strain won't be throwing new roots through the drain-holes if the current pots were to be placed on top of more soil; then perhaps the best option you have is to feed them with a light nute solution with each watering; without over-watering of course.

but imo, you have nothing to loose if you tried placing the pots on top of more soil; this way you will know for sure what happens, whether the roots will reach a bit into the new soil or not; and come back and tell us.

ime, I have had the roots grow through the drain holes after they start flowering...

Kingspade, good to hear!

good luck everyone, may you all have excellent harvests ahead.

peace