Need Help With my Electric!!

[PoopyTeaBags]

Ok guys this is what i am trying to do.

I got a house that i want to run two 1k lights and all the fans pumps and shit on.

The only unused peice on the breaker box is an old 30a 220(or 240 i get 220 and 240 and 110 and 120 mixed up). Anyways that runs about 50 ft to the back washer room...

What i wanted to do is to extend that outside another 100ft or so to the outbuilding. Now i got this breaker box...

i was hoping that i could hook that 30a to this box and run another 220 so that both lights will hook up to the 220's (i know that i will probably have to change the plug for both 220's)

Then i would also like to run a couple 120's so that i could hook up pumps and fans...

Is this capable with what i got going? Does this even make sense? lol

let me know thanks in advance...

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

First picture is a dual 30a and two single 20a breakers...

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

no one?

 

[Lakehigh]

not sure what 1000 bal your using. but a 1000watt magnet is 8.5 amps
so, with two lights your at 17amps. this is a start for you.

Now what I did was, got a new box with two 15 amp breaker.
ran the new wire to the breaker box in the house.
found the 40amp that my washer/dryer runs off. replaced that single pole 40
with a double pole breaker with a 30-40.
is this helping?

 

[stillsmokin843]

Well I'm not an electrician but you can extend it but you have to up the wire size to allow for voltage drop. Just make sure you add up the amps and stay less than 75 to 80% of amps of breaker your on

 

[Lakota412]

You could treat the 2 pole 30 amp feed to the 50' away location as a feeder for this sub-panel you speak of. You want to run this 220v circuit another 100' to an out building. You can do this.

How do you plan on running this out to the out-building? Over head service drop? Underground in pipe? Some direct burial wire?

I'd step up the wire size to a #8 to avoid any voltage drop problems.

Make a junction box out of the end location of the 2 pole 30 amp circuit. You'll need 2 hot wire, 1 neutral wire, and a ground wire. Any sub-panel needs it's own grounding wire, the neutral is not made to carry faults to ground. + it might mess up your gear, better safe then sorry.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

not sure what 1000 bal your using. but a 1000watt magnet is 8.5 amps
so, with two lights your at 17amps. this is a start for you.

Now what I did was, got a new box with two 15 amp breaker.
ran the new wire to the breaker box in the house.
found the 40amp that my washer/dryer runs off. replaced that single pole 40
with a double pole breaker with a 30-40.
is this helping?

I got a double pole 30 that the original breaker is ran from the main box... THis box is a double pole 30a and 2 20a single poles.

i want to run my ballasts on 240 cutting amps in half meaning ill be running only 9 amps. Now the other 20a singles i want to run some more 120 so i can hook up my pumps and a/c and shit like that...

now i was hoping to add like a junction box to hook the old 240 to the new line and out to the building... the wire is ran under ground... The wire that was ran was 10guage

im gussing this is wrong and i need to change some shit up?

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

You could treat the 2 pole 30 amp feed to the 50' away location as a feeder for this sub-panel you speak of. You want to run this 220v circuit another 100' to an out building. You can do this.

How do you plan on running this out to the out-building? Over head service drop? Underground in pipe? Some direct burial wire?

I'd step up the wire size to a #8 to avoid any voltage drop problems.

Make a junction box out of the end location of the 2 pole 30 amp circuit. You'll need 2 hot wire, 1 neutral wire, and a ground wire. Any sub-panel needs it's own grounding wire, the neutral is not made to carry faults to ground. + it might mess up your gear, better safe then sorry.

i would like to set up the box in the out building by extending the 50' another 100' with a junction box if possible... this is where i think my problem lies.... I Need all lines in the out building the 240's and the 120's

 

[dtfsux]

So you want to use the 30A that is running to the wash room and take that outside, and connect it to that breaker box you have pictured?

As long as that breaker box has the appropiate lugs/connections for 2 hots, a neutral and a ground, I dont see why not. And that 30A from the washroom has to have a neutral in it.

You may need to google voltage drops and see what you are looking at with a 100 feet. You could also PM madpenguin, or pharmacan.


I am wondering if we should ask how that wire was run to the outbuilding? It either needs to be in conduit or direct burial wire.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

The Wire is rand underground direct wire i do believe... Thanks for the names to pm too...

 

[PharmaCan]

First of all, 220 and 240 are different names for what is essentially the same thing. The voltage coming into your house on each line is between 110 - 120 volts. You get 220/240 by combining these two hot lines and doubling the voltage. So whether you have 220v or 240v or 232.5v depends on the single-line voltage coming into your house and doesn't really matter except in your load calculations. The appliances themselves are designed to run within a range of voltages, rather than one exact voltage.

What you want to do is install a sub panel in your shed. Then you can use both 120v and 240v stuff.

Connecting an 8ga wire down-circuit from a 10ga wire accomplishes nothing. You can go from bigger to smaller, but not the other way around. Anyway, your dryer connection may be lacking a neutral and you need a neutral for what you want to do. Your best bet is to start from the main panel and run an 8/3 w/ ground directly from the panel to the shed.

Take the cover off of the dryer receptacle and see how many wires are in there - a pic would help. If you absolutely have to run from the dryer receptacle, you can do it if there is a neutral there. You might have to de-rate the circuit a little because of the length of the wire run, but it should be adequate for what you want to do.

Take a look at the sticky about growroom wiring. A lot of your questions are answered there.

PC

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

Thanks Pharma i appreciate the help... the main box is around the wrong side of the house thats the whole reason we are trying to go from the dryer plug cause its already ran to that side of the house it needs to be.

so what i need to do is take of the plastic peice on the dryer and seed if it has a nuetral... and if it does im ok to run the 10 guage out to the garage and hook up the box?

Ill take a pic of it and post it tomorrow...

thanks again