Rooting hormone vs. plain water

[Fick]

Clonex is pricey, for the amount of product you get. My success rate however, is 100% with clonex. (Keep in mind that I'm a noob)

My question is, has anyone done a side by side with clonex vs. maybe superthrive, or just plain water? Is it worth the $$$ spent on clonex... Or maybe rootone powder? (Which is much cheaper)

P.S. I didnt do a search on this one, mainly because I wanna start a post, I'm not gonna lie.
And second because I want an up to date answer.


Thanks.

F

 

[B. Friendly]

http://www.cilproducts.ca/products/product_e.php?prodID=23&category=2it's not my rooting hormone but it's cheap and i use it once seedlings have popped, also use it to soak clones before plantiing up, add b1 as well, simple and effective
get it at home depot

 

[nomaad]

I use Hormex for soaking roots before transplant from aero cloner to soil. Works great. Its more or less the same as superthrive.

 

[B. Friendly]

ps i find most rooting hormones are 100% more effective if you let cutting soak in them for 5 minutes before putting in cubes

 

[Lakehigh]

I like the Clonex, 98% turn out.
Never tryed Superthrive. I did just water ONCE! lol.

 

[Fick]

Wow B.F, I searched H.D. pretty thoroughly and I don't think I saw this stuff.

I think I'm just feeling kinda raped for the 30$ bottle of clonex. Albeit a local shop that I glady support.

PS, I am superthriving the water for the clones, after dipping the cuttings in clonex...

Thanks for the replies.

F

 

[B. Friendly]

Wow B.F, I searched H.D. pretty thoroughly and I don't think I saw this stuff.

I think I'm just feeling kinda raped for the 30$ bottle of clonex. Albeit a local shop that I glady support.

PS, I am superthriving the water for the clones, after dipping the cuttings in clonex...

F

clonex works tho. http://www.cilproducts.ca/products/product_e.php?prodID=23&category=2 this stuff is more for once you see roots.
superthrive is good stuff

 

[Fick]

So Lakehigh,

Water wasn't successful?

I remember my mom taking cuttings of houseplants, putting them in a glass of water, and a few weeks later, roots...

I know that every plant is different, but is it worth 30$ a 100ml of clonex?

 

[B. Friendly]

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=159680
Took Slowandeasy's advice made a bubble cloner myself here's what it looks like:


Cost:
$2 air stone
$15 pump on sale
$15 aquarium heater on sale Alternative heating by seedling mats @
$?? whatever seedling mats cost, think quaurium heater is cheaper, want to keep water temp at 72 F
$6 plastic tote 15 litre / 4 gallon
$5 metalic tape to cover holes and stick cuttings in

this works for me

 

[Fick]

Thats funny B.

Im constructing almost the exact same thing as we speak... For now its clonex and jiffy cubes. lol.

 

[nomaad]

With a proper aerocloner u don't need any solution at all. I just run plain water and Botanicare Aquashield. Keep the pH around 6 and you will get 100% all day long... even from tough to clone strains that are a huge PITA in oasis cubes.

 

[fadahigh]

how many days did the bubble cloner take B. Friendly? have have something the same except for foil instead of melat tape and no heater...so far it has been about 4 days..no roots...i wonder if heat would help

 

[B. Friendly]

some in 5 days most done by 7 days. I put a heater in the water like an aquarium heater. also can use seedlings pads they work good.
dont need anything but water, i put superthrive in just for something.

 

[Fick]

Hmmm... Safety first.

Interesting.

 

[nomaad]

7 days for everything except tahoe OG... that takes about 10. Cuttings from the bottomof the plant tend to root much faster than top cuts.

 

[B. Friendly]

roots want to be around 70 to 72 degrees
tops want to be around 80+ degrees, but just keep em warm.

 

[nomaad]

i found that my cloners (DIY and EZ) stayed much closer to the desired temps without help when I had them on a metal shelf rather than flat on a plastic folding table. The pump heated the water way too much on the tables. Better airflow of the wire shelf/rack did the trick. With ambient temps around 70, the water temps stayed the same.

 

[Bud Bug]

Clonex is pricey, for the amount of product you get. My success rate however, is 100% with clonex. (Keep in mind that I'm a noob)

My question is, has anyone done a side by side with clonex vs. maybe superthrive, or just plain water? Is it worth the $$$ spent on clonex... Or maybe rootone powder? (Which is much cheaper)

P.S. I didnt do a search on this one, mainly because I wanna start a post, I'm not gonna lie.
And second because I want an up to date answer.


Thanks.

F

Why not just get Stim Root #2 which is $5 for 25g and will do tons of cuttings. I know people who do 1000's of clones every week using Stim Root #2

If you want to experiment "home made rooting hormone from willow tree" http://www.beinggreenonline.com/gardening/make-your-own-natural-rooting-hormone or http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&e...=homemade+willow+tree+rooting+hormone&spell=1

 

[treefrog]

Dip -n- Grow and Vita Grow are waaaaay cheaper than Clonex, work as well and will last a long ass time. The difference between water and hormone is a difference of several weeks time usually. How big of a hurry are you in?

The above mentioned hormone products will also make a bubble cloner more effective/reliable, though I got rid of mine in favor of this:http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42847 Dip it in Vita Grow, stick it in there, 7 - 10 days later !00% root. No maintenance or electricity usage. Makes it better, imo.

 

[armedoldhippy]

used to have a bubble cloner made from tupperware box & aquarium pump & air stone. if i used a clean razor & took a good cutting, i got over 90% roots whether i used rootone or not. using the stuff produced roots a little faster, but no more certain of success...