I'm comfortable with most terminology except "marijuana and pot" Those terms are the man's language and persist in the straight media whenever referring to this issue. How many times do we have to hear "birkenstock-clad hippies smoking pot" or some variation of this stupid imagery. Almost every 30-40-ish pseudo hip journalist who spews on this subject regurgitates something in this vein. What I'd like to know is how these people got through the last 2-4 decades with such a vacuum of awareness of cannabis. This includes the prez. Sure he admits to have used it but he seems clueless to the issues surrounding it and the Drug War in general. It is common knowledge among my generation the litanies of drug war abuse and injustice. I find his lackadaisical stance disturbing and hollow.
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Don’t Call It Pot in This Circle It’s a Profession
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I can't beleive people have time in their lives to even care what you would call it...words are no more than gutteral grunts to which we have attached meaning.. the word POT is no more offensive than any other of the grunts we make
and people who can take the time to neg rate such a harmless post defintely have too much time... lol muppet
and people who can take the time to neg rate such a harmless post defintely have too much time... lol muppet
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EstimatedProph
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Yep, I have strictly been calling it cannabis for about two years now. In my younger years I referred to it as weed mainly but since I began cultivating I will only use the scientific term.
That's an incredibly obtuse view of language. I suggest reading some basic texts on linguistics to open that mind up a little. Language is practically what makes humans what they are. It is a representation of innate human creativity... even the stupidest human grunter uses language more creatively to express themselves than any other species does just about anything.
Not that I really care what people call marijuana... this particular discussion has gone off course from its constructive potential. However to deny the power of language in the development of societal attitudes is just plain ignorant.
Is the grunt that says "weed" no more offensive as the one that says "nigger"? I guess that might depend on how that word has been used over time in our society... Or how its being used in the moment... the history attached to it... individual people's personal experience saying it and hearing it.
Sorry, but your grunt thesis is hollow and almost completely without merit. Granted, you may believe yourself to be personally impervious to the ability of language to sway emotions, attitudes and realities on the ground, but I personally don't believe it. Everything belief and disbelief you have has been formed by language.
In fact, most humans cannot even rationalize ANYTHING without an internal dialog... one of my greatest challenges in life is to BE in the moment, without linguistic rationalizations... to FEEEEEL something rather than talk to myself about it. This is one of my biggest problems with organized religions... They are attempts at linguistically rationalizing a spirituality that transcends language... But humans, contrary to your theory, are, almost to the man, incapable of transcending the bonds of language.
nomaad, would you agree in that, beyond our common-day language, that there is a 'spiritual language'?
bombadil.360: your question itself contradicts my point. it takes a certain amount fo will-power, but if we just stop talking about "it" we might "get it". the moment we try to find commonality on that plane a bunch of counter-productive human things, like our intellects, get in the way.
In other words, I don't want to talk about what you call (and what i called, merely out of convenience) spirituality. No disrespect intended.
In other words, I don't want to talk about what you call (and what i called, merely out of convenience) spirituality. No disrespect intended.
Ok nomaad, I understand, it's all good.
peace
peace
My deuce pfennig...
I call it pot, herb, weed, smoke, ganj, whatever the hell I want to call it.
I cannot see changing what we call the stuff just so we can have an easier time welding it into the corporate wheel like so many spokes.
WTF, people...are we serious here?
The whole problem is been that folks have never had the real scoop. The good info is clouded by the bullshit, and always has been with pot...excuse me hemp...errr...rope...
Why do we want to orchestrate yet another mental charade? It is what it is, and if folks can't accept that (*the TRUTH of what it is and not some bullshit about gateway madness) then the way I see it, fuck em.
I realize the intentions are good, but that sort of game really doesn't do it for moi.
Our society is already ate up with the phony dumbass as it is. There is a spin and a flavor put on everything in an attempt to manipulate. I say let Pot the fuck alone.
But that's just me.....
*note
I notice over the years that many young folks tend to find the word pot a bit odd at times...
When I was a kid old guys that I knew who got high called it muggle and some assorted other terms we never hear now, but everyone then knew exactly what the words meant.
oh and btw...what is so derogatory with the word pot? Are the kettles that hold the gold a bad thing? Just curious...
I call it pot, herb, weed, smoke, ganj, whatever the hell I want to call it.
I cannot see changing what we call the stuff just so we can have an easier time welding it into the corporate wheel like so many spokes.
WTF, people...are we serious here?
The whole problem is been that folks have never had the real scoop. The good info is clouded by the bullshit, and always has been with pot...excuse me hemp...errr...rope...
Why do we want to orchestrate yet another mental charade? It is what it is, and if folks can't accept that (*the TRUTH of what it is and not some bullshit about gateway madness) then the way I see it, fuck em.
I realize the intentions are good, but that sort of game really doesn't do it for moi.
Our society is already ate up with the phony dumbass as it is. There is a spin and a flavor put on everything in an attempt to manipulate. I say let Pot the fuck alone.
But that's just me.....
*note
I notice over the years that many young folks tend to find the word pot a bit odd at times...
When I was a kid old guys that I knew who got high called it muggle and some assorted other terms we never hear now, but everyone then knew exactly what the words meant.
oh and btw...what is so derogatory with the word pot? Are the kettles that hold the gold a bad thing? Just curious...
wsmith
Member
hm he said 'cash', ' dope' and even worse, used the word 'duh' in the same sentence. what decade did that cop fall out of anyway. i think condescending pricks who try to 'duh' their way through a conversation with the press probably should not be making statements for LEO. it just makes them all look worse, showing those true colors of a stubborn unwillingness to deal in facts and reason. i fucking hate the word 'duh'. that is just an insulting statement. asshole. go blow up in a meth lab.
C
Chamba
I call it cannabis or ganja
Pot, marijuana and dope are not bad names as such, it's just that almost every time I read or hear these words, in the media especially, it is followed by falsehoods, exaggerated, hysterical negative bias against cannabis.....dope is simply a stupid name, marijuana is a Mexican girl's name and pot can mean lead some to think of lazy, dumb-ass stoners
In Australia "dope" is probably the most common slang for cannabis, or rather, it used to be 25 years ago.
Pot, marijuana and dope are not bad names as such, it's just that almost every time I read or hear these words, in the media especially, it is followed by falsehoods, exaggerated, hysterical negative bias against cannabis.....dope is simply a stupid name, marijuana is a Mexican girl's name and pot can mean lead some to think of lazy, dumb-ass stoners
In Australia "dope" is probably the most common slang for cannabis, or rather, it used to be 25 years ago.
SeniorBuzz
Member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade
Cannabis
A lot of cannabis.
Main article: Cannabis (drug) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
In World Drug report 2006 UNODC focused on The New Cannabis, distribution of stronger marijuana with more THC and its health effects.[15]
Most of the high grade cannabis sold in the U.S. is grown in hidden grow operations indoors.
The number one producer is California with an annual revenue of nearly 14 billion dollars in production,
Washington state is second with 8 billion in production, Tennessee is third with nearly 5 billion in production, Kentucky is fourth with around 4.5 billion, and Hawaii is fifth with close to 4 billion,[16]
Cannabis
A lot of cannabis.
Main article: Cannabis (drug) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
In World Drug report 2006 UNODC focused on The New Cannabis, distribution of stronger marijuana with more THC and its health effects.[15]
Most of the high grade cannabis sold in the U.S. is grown in hidden grow operations indoors.
The number one producer is California with an annual revenue of nearly 14 billion dollars in production,
Washington state is second with 8 billion in production, Tennessee is third with nearly 5 billion in production, Kentucky is fourth with around 4.5 billion, and Hawaii is fifth with close to 4 billion,[16]
the LA DA talked about the many robberies (he claimed over 200) at co-ops as a reason to ban them but he and the police chief never talked about ever solving any of the crimes even with descriptions of repeat suspects and their vehicles and video of some of them.
hmmmm.......
i wonder if they are even trying.......
HarborsideSJ
New member
It is important to distinguish us as a profession. We are not pot dealers!
Emperor Herer
Member
Beware the Dark-side... DARE side...
Beware the Dark-side... DARE side...
I see this 'method' as happening anywhere/everywhere Medicinal Cannabis is /quasi/legally available. The MONEY is just to great to keep out the scabs, grifters and profiteers.
Here is an open question to all:
How much does it cost to produce Medicinal Cannabis?
So why are street prices /black market/ (WTF is THAT all about) and Dispensary prices so close together, mostly NO difference in price.
Just a thought for this thread. Stay tuned.
Beware the Dark-side... DARE side...
I see this 'method' as happening anywhere/everywhere Medicinal Cannabis is /quasi/legally available. The MONEY is just to great to keep out the scabs, grifters and profiteers.
Here is an open question to all:
How much does it cost to produce Medicinal Cannabis?
So why are street prices /black market/ (WTF is THAT all about) and Dispensary prices so close together, mostly NO difference in price.
Just a thought for this thread. Stay tuned.
